Doug Ford is screwing up Ontario
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We weren't discussing deficits or healthcare or education, etc etc.
We were discussing your statement about DoFo being the worst Ontario premier in history.
Public opinion would suggest you are wrong about that.
You won't provide proof about public opinion because you're scared of what you will find about who most Ontarians believe was the worst premier.
Are you finished tap dancing and distracting from your claim yet?
It was specifically about a comment about DoFo being the worst premier in Ontario. In terms of public opinion, that would not be the case.
Other than public opinion, "the worst" is very subjective. So consensus based on public opinion, ie polls, would be the measure in that context.
Like I said...quick to make excuses and then quick to praise.
"forecasted" does not mean it has actually happened. You are basing your view on speculation.
But the actual fact is that Canada has a better credit rating than several of the G7 Nations including the USA, and the Inflation is lower than most G7 Nations.
Canada was the first G7 Nation to cut the interest rate and are headed for another cut soon. The stock market is bullish.. What else do you need?
An article quoting the press release is still just using the press release, skoob.
You need an independent source that looked into the issue to see if there were any savings at all.
Not someone else posting the DoFo presser.
Everywhere you look with DoFo you find more corruption.
OMG!
So DoFo 'forecasts' $700 million in savings from energy not purchased and you say that happened.
Then you post this?
Skoob own goal!
Those contracts were terrible. If DoFo had signed those contracts instead of the Libs you would have had a stroke.
They were all part of the Liberal's failed green energy scheme that cost everyone more.
Thank god they were cancelled by the grownups in the room.
Do the math...
Auditor general report sheds more light on Ontario's soaring electricity costs
• Consumers have paid $9.2 billion more for renewables under the current 20-year contracts than they would have had to under Ontario’s previous program of renewable procurement.
• Ontario’s guaranteed prices in 2014 for wind and solar are approximately double and three and a half times the current average U.S. costs, respectively.
• Using non-hydro renewables to reduce electricity-sector carbon emissions costs approximately $257 million for each megatonne of emissions reduced (Ontario’s estimated 2012 emissions were 167 megatonnes).
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blo...e-light-on-ontarios-soaring-electricity-costs
None of which addresses what I said. And I never said that Ford was the worst. I said he was bad for the province. You were the one who felt the need to use superlatives.
If you bothered to actually do your own research you would find that the figure is based on the commitments the stupid contracts the Liberals signed would have cost the province based on energy we don't need.
Cost avoidance based on power generation through the multi-year contracts.
There's this thing called math you should look into.
I never said you said Ford was the worst. I'm saying that "best" or "worse" are subjective terms based on opinion. And if more people believe someone was the worst, then that would be the measure in terms of opinion.
Saying Ford is "bad" for the province is also subjective and a very broad statement. That would imply that someone else was good for the province as to have something to compare with.
So you believe he is bad for the province and I believe he is good for the province. And?
Of course it's subjective but it's no different than saying he's a good premier. No different than saying Wynne was worse.
Actually, it most definitely does not. 1)I made no comparison, implied or otherwise. 2)It's possible that I feel that everyone is bad.
Poor logic.
Are you saying there is no pleasing you and if there is, no one has been able to meet your expectations?
That's your opinion.
My opinion is that based on various polls that show that Wynne is usually identified as the worst premier in Ontario history, I'll go with that.
A 9 year old report by the Fraser Institute?
That's IDU, doesn''t count as a legit source.
You've posted a DoFo press release and the media posting that press release and its projection.
That's not research.
Even this right wing think tank says this about Doug Ford:
Ford government chooses more spending over tax reductions and debt relief
Wonder where all those taxpayers dollars are being funnelled. We have a terrible Healthcare system under Ford. The Education infrastructure is getting worse and worse.
Guess his only achievement is the $1 beer. Goodness knows who buys it!!
Ford government chooses more spending over tax reductions and debt relief
Wonder where all those taxpayers dollars are being funnelled. We have a terrible Healthcare system under Ford. The Education infrastructure is getting worse and worse.
Guess his only achievement is the $1 beer. Goodness knows who buys it!!
Another condemnation of the Ford Government's policies:
Ford to blame for Ontario’s surging debt
Ford to blame for Ontario’s surging debt
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www.taxpayer.com
No. It's a hypothetical example to prove that your supposition is wrong when you say that if I say that Ford is bad, automatically implies that someone else is good. There is no such implication. Ford is bad for Ontario means that Ford is bad for Ontario. Nothing more and nothing less.
