I think this loss is on Montoyo. They got RYU to be an ace, but he pitches him yesterday against a weak team and we throw up Ross "once in a while" Stripling against a good team. Ross the loss could have handled Texas. He also has his 3 lefthanders starting in a row.
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I extrapolated the final score with 1 out in the 2nd and Bosox up 11-0 and it equalled 77-0. Then I turned the TV off.
Montoyo is a bad manager, and has lost a few games because it, but this isn't one of them. You can't start fucking around with your rotation simply because a better opponent is coming up next or you'll be doing that all year. The pitchers have their routines and you don't want to throw them to far out of whack. Ryu was already pushed back a few days as it was, and quite Frankly had been struggling going into the break. Pitching against the Rangers might just what the DR ordered to get him back on track. There's one person to blame for the loss, Ross Stripling.
Same thing happened to Izturis a few years ago (and also Kelly Gruber?).
"On April 13, 2014, in the final game of a three-game series against the Baltimore Orioles, he had to be scratched from the lineup shortly before the start of the game after tripping on the dugout stairs. Izturis told the team he heard two loud pops when he tripped, and was taken for an MRI the following day. The MRI determined that he had torn his lateral collateral ligament in his left knee, and would require surgery. Izturis told reporters he would seek a second opinion before undergoing surgery, as the expected recovery time of 4–6 months would likely sideline him for the rest of the 2014 season.[12][13] He was later put on the 60-day disabled list.[14] In 11 games in 2014, Izturis batted .286 with 1 RBI.[4]"
looks like ray is our new number one
he pitched first after break so he can pitch against red sox wednesday not ryu
one of the best relievers in baseball with another year under contract up for grabs from the cubs in craig kimbrel
i would not give then pearson but jays have quality infielders prospects to trade
think of next year when everyone is healthy
we will have best relievers in the game and fill up the dome
he pitched first after break so he can pitch against red sox wednesday not ryu
one of the best relievers in baseball with another year under contract up for grabs from the cubs in craig kimbrel
i would not give then pearson but jays have quality infielders prospects to trade
think of next year when everyone is healthy
we will have best relievers in the game and fill up the dome
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The one time you can adjust your rotation for sure is after the all star game
I know, but there's more to it then meets the eye. Putting this on Montoyo is not fair.
Today is another typical Montoyo loss. They had one fucking guy that they had to pitch around with the game on the line, and he let Borocki pitch to him. Alonso should have had nothing to swing at.
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As much as I tend to defer to a coach/manager's expertise, I gotta say that I disagree with putting Vlady at #2 in the order. He is their best RBI guy but are now giving him less opportunities to do that.
In the 1st inning, they are giving him a max of one base runner, and other innings he has to also depend on the 8th and 9th batters. And even worse against the NL, like on the weekend, he is hoping (most likely) the catcher and the pitcher ahead of Springer.
I don't get it. I'd rather see him at #3. Can anybody explain Vlady in the 2 slot?
In the 1st inning, they are giving him a max of one base runner, and other innings he has to also depend on the 8th and 9th batters. And even worse against the NL, like on the weekend, he is hoping (most likely) the catcher and the pitcher ahead of Springer.
I don't get it. I'd rather see him at #3. Can anybody explain Vlady in the 2 slot?
I look at it this way. I had no expectations for the Jays this season. I believe I predicted them to finish 74-88. They are far exceeding where I thought they would be. The bullpen and starting pitching have held up much better than I thought they would. Credit to Pete Walker.
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There is merit to your suggestion. Unfortunately, I think the timing is a problem. Trade deadline and opening of the dome coincide.
"Hey fans. We're so happy to be home and we'd love for all of you to come see the return of our exciting team. BTW, we're giving up on the season and trading Semien."
More plate appearances at the 2 spot, he's only batting 2nd 1 first time through the line-up. But I agree I prefer Vladdy at #3 and Bo at #2
Ideally I would like to see the top 5.
1. Springer
2. Bo
3. Vladdy
4. Teo
5. Semien
In theory, your point about less ABs is correct. But it is only less at bats when the last out of a game is by the leadoff hitter. I have no idea, but I'd guess it happens maybe 10 times a year, meaning 10 less ABs. It think that that is more than compensated by the lesser number of runners on base when he comes to bat. It could be 1 or 2 per game. That's a lot of potential RBIs lost.
I can't decide if I'd rather have Teo or Semien as #4.
I cringe when I hear more at bats in the number 2 spot. It might mean 18 more at bats over 162 games (once every 9 games). That being said, the number 2 spot has been filled by many stars over the years. What it can do is reduce rbi chances in the first inning. Unless Springer gets to second base, Vladdy is hitting without any one in scoring position. The number 3 hitter has a much better chance of an rbi situation...and of course the number 4 hitter can only bat if someone got on base in the first inning.
This team has talent....but what they lack is that certain intangible that wins close games and steps up - not down - when playing better teams. Sure it is fun and statistic pampering to hammer the Texas Rangers. But then you fold against the Red Sox. Some of this is on Montoyo and some of it is on "the were having fun" group win or lose and some of it is on the bullpen pitching tentatively.
