I'm not blaming Cito for this and the bats have been pretty hot all year round but to suddenly not produce runs the last few games is disheartening. Last night, they couldn't hit the ball off a pitcher who is average at best.teassoc said:Agreed.
Carlson messes things up again! According to MLB.com the lead off double he allowed was plum in the middle of the plate. So 3 losses to him now and a poor ERA.
Still shouldn't have come down to that. Seems a bit like other seasons now with good pitching and an inability to score runs, even against mediocre pitchers. I thought Cito had changed all that?
Blue Jays 2009
- Thread starter salsamarc
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agreed.... his record speaks for itself, the bats have gone cold (as was bound to happen sooner or later) and you can't seriously expect them to keep taking 2 out 3 every time, new pitchers are coming and let's see where we are in 2 weeks before we throw the towellawyerman said:
btw somebody please SHOOT Wells !!!!!
Casey Janssen and Ricky Romero are joining the 5 man rotation and Brett Cecil and Bobby Ray have been optioned back down to Las Vegas.
Janssen is supposed to pitch against Atlanta tonight.
http://www.thestar.com/sports/article/639211
Now rotation is:
Halladay
Janssen
Romero
Tallet
Richmond
Janssen is supposed to pitch against Atlanta tonight.
http://www.thestar.com/sports/article/639211
Now rotation is:
Halladay
Janssen
Romero
Tallet
Richmond
Every team goes through a slump and its the Jay's turn, fact of life. Don't forget that our bats were number #1 in many offensive categories now laws of averages kicking in. But we still have a very good hitting team and slump will be over soon.salsamarc said:
I would trade Wells to any team for a mascot and will still pay for his salary.
The TERRIBLE TWINS went 0 for 8 last night and are 0 for 6 so far tonight. They are as useless as an anchor to a drowning man.
I would like to know what are Well's numbers with runners on base as opposed to with the bases empty ?????
Bases Empty .287salsamarc said:
Runner on 1B .310
Runner on 2B .273
Runner on 3B .143
Runners 1B, 2B .045
Runners 1B, 3B .500
Runners 2B, 3B .143
Bases Loaded .250
RISP .164
Here's the link for the more in depth Vernon Wells numbers this year. Not very good for a cleanup hitter.
http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/sta...sitSplit1=All&statType=1&statSet=1&splitSet=2
Lawyerman, that was great research.salsamarc said:
Now can you tell me what Alex Rios batting average is when
The dome is open, the wind is more than 12km/hour, but less than 20km/hour, its an over cast day, on a 1/2 moon against a RHP in an afternoon game withthe temperature below 20degrees.
would that be against right handers or left handers ????slowandeasy said:Lawyerman, that was great research.
Now can you tell me what Alex Rios batting average is when
The dome is open, the wind is more than 12km/hour, but less than 20km/hour, its an over cast day, on a 1/2 moon against a RHP in an afternoon game withthe temperature below 20degrees.
Almost certainly another loss tonight. This time down to Camp.
Good performance by Richmond. Gaston should have kept him in the game a bit longer.
Good effort by Wells as well. He made both Jays runs (up to now in the 9th innings). Usual story with runners left on base.
Good performance by Richmond. Gaston should have kept him in the game a bit longer.
Good effort by Wells as well. He made both Jays runs (up to now in the 9th innings). Usual story with runners left on base.
Yes, it looks like the 'Jays have been found out a bit'. They obviously aren't as good as they had appeared.blueline said:
Need to remember all these losses have been on the road against strong teams and there aren't too many teams with a winning record away from home. Also several of these games could have gone either way, including even today's when the Jays had the bases loaded with one out in the seventh innings with game tied 2 - 2 and got nothing out of it (again).
Pitching line up looks strong. Bullpen has one or two weaknesses - Ryan and Carlson in particular. Could add Camp as well after today's implosion.
Biggest single problem right now is making runs. Wells has been disappointing but seems to be finding some form. Showing much more patience at the plate. The problem is with the others that were scoring runs, aren't now. I don't know what you do about that.
he needs to be able to hit in clutch situation the same way Hill, Lind, Barajas and Scuttaro were doing, a step in the right direction will be for him to switch places with Lind in the batting orderteassoc said:Biggest single problem right now is making runs. Wells has been disappointing but seems to be finding some form. Showing much more patience at the plate. The problem is with the others that were scoring runs, aren't now. I don't know what you do about that.
Another day, another loss.blueline said:
I don't think it's as simple as that blueline as they have now lost to a pretty poor team. It seems like the team is now playing with absolutely no confidence - they are out before they get themselves out. Each player that has been playing well is thinking they will have to do something special and will then try too hard. Conversely Rios and Wells are not playing that badly - see Wells 2 steals the other night.
Bringing up Janssen and Romero, and sending Snider down might now be a case of too little too late.
Having said all that, they have Romero and Haliday coming up. Hopefully those pitchers can turn the tide by going a long way through each game. Right now the Jays of 2009 are looking much too much like those of 2008.
BTW Ryan has proved he's a waste of time in the line-up now. Gaston probably thought he'd be inspired by being back in Baltimore. He obviously wasn't. Zaun however seized his chance to get some revenge.
