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Captain Fantastic said:
Anyone else think tboy's life is like the movie "Groundhog Day", except that tboy keeps pigheadedly making the same mistakes over and over again just to prove that he's not the one in the wrong, even as the evidence mounts to the contrary?

Hehehehehehe........


Welcome to the world of Tboy.

I am wondering what the people on POF think of him and his posting habits.

tboy said:
Ever notice that Captain F continues to ignore the others that agree with me and focus' on me alone? I do think he's got a "thing" for me.....

BTW: I knew you would stoop to the playground level eventually, you couldn't just keep this civil could you?
I don't see where he stoop to the playground level. You did that last week with the childish name-calling though, so you could not keep it civil. How can you now come here and question him on being civil. I know because you are Tboy, right? :rolleyes:

BTW, I don't really see anyone who is fully agreeing you either, so who is he suppose to post to.
 

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Malibook said:
I'll take that as a no. :D

Actually I suppose it is a yes but you just don't get it.
Oh I get it, and your point is worthless. I don't believe anyone here, or the Chief was there at the time. If they weren't, as I said, it's easy to sit back and be an armchair quarterback.........
 

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tboy said:
Ever notice that Captain F continues to ignore the others that agree with me and focus` on me alone?
LOL! No one else agrees with you, you delusional little tboy. I had an exchange with KBear about this and we left it at that. You just keep coming back here, getting more and more agitated, repeating the same song and dance about "criminals" getting what they deserve and all that and I`m (and many others) just keep refuting you.
tboy said:
I do think he`s got a "thing" for me.....
I`m sure you also feel the same way about a lot of guys. Perhaps there`s something to genintoronto`s post in another thread.

Trust me, if you`re ugly enough to repulse girls at first sight, then even if I were gay (not that there`s anything wrong with it) I`d want nothing to do with you! I AM that shallow. :p
tboy said:
BTW: I knew you would stoop to the playground level eventually, you couldn`t just keep this civil could you?
Jeezuz, stop yer crying you passive-aggressive baby. Unlike you and your childish name-calling borne out of anger and frustration, what I posted was in good fun with a big old smiley to show that it was meant as tongue-in-cheek. "Groundhog Day" is just a movie little tboy.

You are the stereotypical bully. Any time someone gives you a good-natured taste of your own medicine you start whining and playing the victim card. Maybe that`s why you empathize with cops so much?
 

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tboy said:
IN EVERY CASE IT IS ALWAYS SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T FOLLOW A COP'S COMMANDS, DOESN'T STOP, ARGUES, THROWS SOMETHING, BREAKS SOMETHING, OR COMMITS SOME SORT OF OFFENCE then bitches and moans because a cop exerts his authority and in this case DOES HIS FREAKING JOB!!!!


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What about in Oakland California were the guy follow police orders and was laying face down on the ground and that transit cop shot and killed him....oh yeah, he thought he was just tasering him :rolleyes:
 

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But I will say many people do not get to say goodbye to their love ones...that is just life..even for rich people.
 

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tboy said:
Oh I get it, and your point is worthless. I don't believe anyone here, or the Chief was there at the time. If they weren't, as I said, it's easy to sit back and be an armchair quarterback.........
This, coming from the one who was not there but claims everybody else is wrong.

I suppose he was simply misunderstood and the camera didn't accurately capture his true compassion.

At least the cop can admit when he is out of line and apologize, even if he is as insincere and dishonest as you claim.
 

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Malibook said:
This, coming from the one who was not there but claims everybody else is wrong.
Not everybody, just those that think he is an asshole and or should be fired, suspended or otherwise admonished for doing his job.

Malibook said:
I suppose he was simply misunderstood and the camera didn't accurately capture his true compassion.
Compassion? I do not WANT cops to be compassionate. I want them to be hard nosed sons of bitches to put down all those that break the law. If I want compassion I'll go see a social worker......

Malibook said:
At least the cop can admit when he is out of line and apologize, even if he is as insincere and dishonest as you claim.
I never once claimed he was insincere or dishonest. Please, don't put words in my mouth.....
 

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tboy said:
Not everybody, just those that think he is an asshole and or should be fired, suspended or otherwise admonished for doing his job.



Compassion? I do not WANT cops to be compassionate. I want them to be hard nosed sons of bitches to put down all those that break the law. If I want compassion I'll go see a social worker......



I never once claimed he was insincere or dishonest. Please, don't put words in my mouth.....
Police can be hard nosed. They can also have some versatility. This officer was lacking in every sense of the word.
 

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tboy said:
If you'd watched and gathered ALL the evidence before posting you'd have known that the cop had his lights on when the driver ran the red light miles before he was anywhere near the hospital.
Ok, for once I can say you are correct about something.
I hadn't watched the complete tape until just now.
Now that I have seen the whole tape, I think the cop is even worse than I thought and you are even more out to lunch than I thought.

The tape starts when the cop hadn't even crossed the red light and he was well back of Moats.
Moats turned right at 5 seconds and the cop was 8 seconds behind.
The cop didn't get right up behind him until they were at the hospital.
Moats parked the car at 55 seconds from the start of this "miles' long chase.

The claim that he would have more than likely let him go is bullshit.
He made this claim 12 minutes after he was told about the emergency.
All of them would have likely missed the last moment.

The cop threatened to handcuff Moats and take him to jail around 4 times, told him to shut his mouth around 4 times, told him I can screw you over, I can make your life difficult, charge you with fleeing, .......all after he was told about the emergency. :mad:
 

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If it had been my mother on her deathbed, and that cop made me miss my last moments with her, I'd be furious.
 

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tboy said:
I never once claimed he was insincere or dishonest. Please, don't put words in my mouth.....
tboy said:
In regards to the quote Kirk included in his post: You know as well as I do that the various commissioners will apologize even if the cop wasn't wrong because it is POLITICAL.
Since you are implying that his superiors are not sincere with their apology, then wouldn't that make their claims of dismay lies?

If this is so for his superiors, wouldn't it likely be more so for the cop?

This is the cop's apology.

I showed poor judgment and insensitivity to Mr. Moats and his family by my words and actions.
With great remorse I accept my responsibility for adding to their grief in an already difficult time.


If he did nothing wrong, as you suggest, his apology is insincere and his great remorse and acceptance of responsibility is a lie.

There is no need to put words in you mouth and why do you keep putting your foot in there? :D
 

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tboy said:
BTW: the cop DID let the daughter go into the hospital to visit her dying mother and only detained the one who BROKE THE LAW. I am surprised Moates didn't get arrested for lying to a police officer. In the video he specifically stated "his mother was dying". His mother wasn't dying, his mother in law was......
It's true that he didn't shoot them in the back to stop them but he didn't give them permission to go in.
They ignored his bullshit and gun and just went.

As for your perceived mother instead of mother in law issue, only you would suggest something so ludicrous or are you trying to be funny.

I would hope that you really are just a troll with a warped sense of humour. :D
 

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Seems the police chief feels actions were inappropriate.

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Posted: Thursday March 26, 2009 3:04PM; Updated: Thursday March 26, 2009 11:47PM
Texas cop delays Texans RB Moats at hospital as mother-in-law dies Story Highlights
Ryan Moats was rushing to hospital to see dying mother-in-law
Officer Robert Powell pulled Moats over for going through red light
Cop, Moats had heated verbal exchanges while Moats explained himself



This video frame grab taken from a police dashboard camera shows Ryan Moats arguing with a cop (not shown) outside the hospital.
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DALLAS (AP) -- A police officer was placed on administrative leave Thursday over a traffic stop involving an NFL player whom he kept in a hospital parking lot and threatened to arrest while his mother-in-law died inside the building.

Officer Robert Powell also drew his gun during the March 18 incident involving Houston Texans running back Ryan Moats in the Dallas suburb of Plano, police said.

"I can screw you over," he said at one point in the videotaped incident. When another officer came with word that Moats' mother-in-law was indeed dying, Powell's response was: "All right. I'm almost done."


Dallas Police Chief David Kunkle apologized to the family and announced that Powell would be on paid leave pending an internal investigation.

"When we at the command staff reviewed the tape, we were embarrassed, disappointed," Kunkle said. "It's hard to find the right word and still be professional in my role as the police chief. But the behavior was not appropriate."

Powell, 25, a three-year member of the force, stopped Moats' SUV outside Baylor Regional Medical Center at Plano after Moats rolled through a red light.

Police officials said Powell told his commanders he believed he was doing his job, and that he drew his gun but did not point it. Kunkle said Powell was not necessarily acting improperly when he pulled his weapon out, but that once he realized what was happening should have put the gun back, apologized and offered to help the family in any way.

"His behavior, in my opinion, did not exhibit the common sense, the discretion, the compassion that we expect our officers to exhibit," Kunkle said.

Moats' wife, who was in the car along with other relatives, said Powell pointed his weapon at her.

"He was pointing a gun at me as soon as I got out of the car," Tamishia Moats told The Dallas Morning News.

Ryan Moats told KRLD-FM in Dallas in a phone interview Thursday that after the officer pointed the gun at his wife, he pointed it at him. "I just tried to stay as still as possible to not scare him or do anything to make him react," he said.

He earlier told the newspaper he thought Powell should be fired but backed off that in his radio interview.

"All I know is what he did was wrong," Moats said. "He stole a moment away from me that I can never get back. I'm really not the judge on what should happen to him."

The Moats family did not immediately return messages left by The Associated Press. Powell did not respond to requests for comment through the Dallas police union.

Video from a dashboard camera inside the officer's vehicle, obtained by Dallas-Fort Worth station WFAA-TV, revealed an intense exchange in which the officer threatened to jail Moats.

He ordered Tamishia Moats, 27, to get back in the SUV, but after pausing for a few seconds, she and another woman rushed into the hospital. She was by the side of her mother, 45-year-old Jonetta Collinsworth, when she died a short time later from breast cancer.

"Get in there," said Powell, yelling at Tamishia Moats as she exited the vehicle. "Let me see your hands!"

"Excuse me, my mom is dying," Tamishia Moats said. "Do you understand?"

Ryan Moats explained that he waited until there was no traffic before proceeding through the red light. When Powell asked for proof of insurance, Moats grew more agitated and told the officer to go find it.

"My mother-in-law is dying! Right now! You're wasting my time!" Moats yelled. "I don't understand why you can't understand that."

As they argued, the officer got irritated.

"Shut your mouth," the officer said. "You can either settle down and cooperate or I can just take you to jail for running a red light."

By the time the 26-year-old NFL player received a ticket and a lecture from Powell, about 13 minutes had passed. When he and Collinsworth's father entered the hospital, they learned Collinsworth was dead.

Earl Jackson, Collinsworth's father, said he knew what Powell was doing was wrong. "This guy, he wouldn't listen to nobody," Jackson said in an interview with Dallas-Fort Worth station KDFW-TV.

Moats said he wouldn't have had a problem with the officer giving him a ticket after letting him go into the hospital.

"I don't know what he was thinking," he told KRLD-FM. "Basically, I was just shocked. I was very shocked that he wasn't budging on it. I even said I can't believe that this was happening."

Kunkle said the video showed that Moats and his wife "exercised extraordinary patience, restraint in dealing with the behavior of our officer."

"At no time did Mr. Moats identify himself as an NFL football player or expect any kind of special consideration," Kunkle said. "He handled himself very, very well."

The Moats family, who are black, said they can't help but think that race might have played a part in the white officer's behavior.

"I think he should lose his job," Ryan Moats said.

When the exchange was at its most contentious, Powell said he could tow Moats' SUV if he didn't have insurance and that he could arrest him for fleeing because he didn't immediately stop when Powell turned on his sirens. The pursuit lasted a little more than a minute.

"I can screw you over," Powell said. "I'd rather not do that. Your attitude will dictate everything that happens."

The ticket issued to Moats was dismissed, Dallas police spokesman Lt. Andy Harvey said.

Texans spokesman Kevin Cooper said the team had no comment.

Moats, a third-round draft choice of the Philadelphia Eagles in 2005 out of Louisiana Tech, was cut by the Eagles in August and later signed with the Texans. In three seasons as a backup, he's rushed for 441 yards and scored four touchdowns.

He was a standout at Bishop Lynch High School, a private school in Dallas, rushing for more than 2,600 yards and 33 touchdowns as a senior.

Copyright 2009 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
 

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I totally agree with post #112 written by malibook. The cop was power tripping "BIG TIME" and abusing his authority. He had other options he could have used but chose to make this guys terrible dilemna a "living hell!!" Anyway, what goes around comes around, and this cop will get what is coming to him. As for Tboy, he just gets off getting people all pissed off. So Tboy, you must have "got off" a lot with this thread.:mad:
 

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stinkynuts said:
If it had been my mother on her deathbed, and that cop made me miss my last moments with her, I'd be furious.
It was his mother-in-law, not his mother.

The only reason I would rush to my mother-in-law's deathbed is to make sure everything progresses along nicely. :D
 

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rafterman said:
Seems the police chief feels actions were inappropriate.

Some things that really stood out for me in this article was:

"When we at the command staff reviewed the tape, we were embarrassed, disappointed," Kunkle said. "It's hard to find the right word and still be professional in my role as the police chief. But the behavior was not appropriate."
Police Cheif is saying it was inappropriate behavior, so that is huge. When your boss says you fucked up then you fucked up.


Police officials said Powell told his commanders he believed he was doing his job, and that he drew his gun but did not point it. Kunkle said Powell was not necessarily acting improperly when he pulled his weapon out, but that once he realized what was happening should have put the gun back, apologized and offered to help the family in any way.
This shows me that the Cheif did support the first reaction of the pulling of the weapon because the officer didn't know what he was walking into, but as soon as he the gun should have gone away and the serve part of protect and serve should have come into play.

"His behavior, in my opinion, did not exhibit the common sense, the discretion, the compassion that we expect our officers to exhibit," Kunkle said.
The police cheif states what is expected form his officers. Not to just be hard nosed sons of bitches to put down all those that break the law.

He earlier told the newspaper he thought Powell should be fired but backed off that in his radio interview.
I like to see that cooler headers can prevail and openly admitt that as well.
"All I know is what he did was wrong," Moats said. "He stole a moment away from me that I can never get back. I'm really not the judge on what should happen to him."
Even though is moment to say good bye was stolen, he is still allowing again a cooler head to prevail and not making judgments


Earl Jackson, Collinsworth's father, said he knew what Powell was doing was wrong. "This guy, he wouldn't listen to nobody," Jackson said in an interview with Dallas-Fort Worth station KDFW-TV.
Cops are supose to be able to listen as well as talk. This was clearly not the case. Maybe if Powell had stopped and listened himself, he would have acted differently. Instead he was power-tripping, not backing down, not listening. I AM THE COP! YOU ARE THE ASSHOLE BAD GUY type behaviour and it was wrong.

Moats said he wouldn't have had a problem with the officer giving him a ticket after letting him go into the hospital.
Moats was will to take responiblity, he just wanted the chance to say good-bye, something he will never get now.

"At no time did Mr. Moats identify himself as an NFL football player or expect any kind of special consideration," Kunkle said. "He handled himself very, very well."

I was mistaken when I said I thought the Celeb card was going to be played, but he never did use and I don't believe he is using now, so good on him and my bad for make the assumption he would.


The ticket issued to Moats was dismissed, Dallas police spokesman Lt. Andy Harvey said.
The ticket was dismissed I think for 2 reasons. A - The circumstances warrented no ticket, and B - after everything the the family just went through, the least they could was get rid of the ticket.
 
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