4 - Nations Tournament

Who Will Win the 4-Nations Tournament?


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At least the players didn't step on the opposition team's flag in the dressing room as was rumoured to have happened before a Canada/US women's hockey game years ago. Anyone remember that?
 
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At least the players didn't step on the opposition team's flag in the dressing room as was rumoured to have happened before a Canada/US women's hockey game years ago. Anyone remember that?
Love Hayley but by accounts that never happened...Cool motivational strategy though.

Cammi Granato has gone into this at length.
 
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This tournament further illustrated the importance of having both great goaltending and timely scoring in the big games. You just can’t win without having both.

Had Binnington not made those great saves, the game would have been over before McDavid/Makar/Marner could play the hero roles. By the same token had Marner not set up the Bennett tying goal, Bennington would not have the chance to make those great saves in ot.

After watching this tournament I feel more optimistic about the Leafs’ playoff chances this year because Matthews up until the ot goal he was playing great both ways. Marner has answered the question if he can make great plays in a big game. Nylander had a terrible game against Canada but played very good thereafter. Our goaltending and defence have never been better in this core four era.

The experience the core three got from this tournament will hopefully push them to another level in this year’s playoffs.
 
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I didn't get a chance to watch the game in full, commitments that couldn't be cancelled. By the time I got home there was five minutes left in the third. Will stream in it's entirety today.

I've been saying Gretzky is a sleazeball for awhile. His celebration was muted due to his friendship with Orange Pus Boil. Trump wants him to be Governor of Canada.


Avid hockey fan Chuck, wore his American jersey. No ra ra from him, he's not going to put his invitation to Joe Carter's golf tournament at risk.

 
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Oh no, intentional and valid comparison, up to and including moving the abusing priest/coach to the next town over.

We use "grooming/groomer" too much today, but Hockey Canada is perfectly set up to allow groomers to take advantage of the system.



Facts is facts.

Our enrolment: Down, US enrolment: Up.
# of NHL Players: Canada Down, US up

The lines are crossing/have crossed on all metrics.

Imagine how much better our player develpment would be with the 2.4 million this lady stole:


and the $9 million we paid to victims of sexual assault:


Your registration dollars fund this. Your municipal tax dollars fund this. Your Provincial tax dollars fund this, and your federal tax dollars fund this. Participating in Hockey Canada programming is paying so that there can be more fraud and sexual assault.
So Canadian Hockey is dead because of it's past and current legal problems? If that's the case than the NBA, NFL and MLB are all dead by your standards...
 
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No. 5 should be Bobby Orr goal against the Czechoslovakia in the 1976 Canada Cup. It was his last hurrah.


Bobby Orr didn't take part in the Summit Series in 1972, he was recovering from knee surgery.
 
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No. 5 should be Bobby Orr goal against the Czechoslovakia in the 1976 Canada Cup. It was his last hurrah.

Bobby Orr didn't take part in the Summit Series in 1972, he was recovering from knee surgery.
Great goal and I think that he was still only playing on one good leg.

I watched the DVD series of the Canada Cup with my sons when they were teenagers. They'd only seen highlight reels of Orr, but not complete games. At the end they could see how he was easily the best player in that series.
 

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I didn't get a chance to watch the game in full, commitments that couldn't be cancelled. By the time I got home there was five minutes left in the third. Will stream in it's entirety today.

I've been saying Gretzky is a sleazeball for awhile. His celebration was muted due to his friendship with Orange Pus Boil. Trump wants him to be Governor of Canada.


Avid hockey fan Chuck, wore his American jersey. No ra ra from him, he's not going to put his invitation to Joe Carter's golf tournament at risk.


Are there any videos of Gretzky celebrating Canada's win? Other than 2002 Salt Lake City.
 

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So Canadian Hockey is dead because of it's past and current legal problems? If that's the case than the NBA, NFL and MLB are all dead by your standards...
Canadian hockey is dead because:

Enrollment is down. The US now has more players enrolled under age 18 than Canada does. This in new in the last 2 years.

Our minor hockey programming sucks: we divide kids too soon (fuck every u13 and lower AAA team, and every u10 and lower "competitive" team). This drives costs up too early, and takes focus away from kids who develop later.

Our coaching development sucks: Take a weekend course, then we never follow up with you. The average AAA team is coached by the richest dad, and the dad who played 1 season of JR C. Kids don't get skill development they need.

We do not provide a safe environment for kids to play. There is no accountability for abusive behavior, this drives kids out of the sport.

So, between cost, abuse, and lack of value, families are spending their dollars elswhere. This trend will continue and accelerate.
 

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No. Probably not even top 5.
How could I forget the 72 Summit Series! I was living outside the country and that might be the reason why the impact didn’t hit me quite as hard as this 4 nation tournament.

I‘d put this win right behind because similar to the Summit Series, there is a threat of war. Cold War back then and Tariff War now. There were a lot of fear of the Soviet nuclear might but I don’t think as a nation we hated the Russians as much as we hate the Americans now.
The Tariff War could potentially knock our economy down the toilet and affect the lives of millions of Canadians. On top of that there’s the hate onTrump, the worst dictator North America has known in our life time.

On the hockey side of things, the Americans were trying to bully us just like Trump is doing to us. They were well on their way to take hockey supremacy from us just as the Russians were in 1972. This win reaffirmed who’s the best, at least until the next time we meet.

Winning an Olympic Gold was huge but you have that chance every four years. With the preamble of my question “all things considered “, I’d put this win right after the 72 win.
 
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Canadian hockey is dead because:

Enrollment is down. The US now has more players enrolled under age 18 than Canada does. This in new in the last 2 years.

Our minor hockey programming sucks: we divide kids too soon (fuck every u13 and lower AAA team, and every u10 and lower "competitive" team). This drives costs up too early, and takes focus away from kids who develop later.

Our coaching development sucks: Take a weekend course, then we never follow up with you. The average AAA team is coached by the richest dad, and the dad who played 1 season of JR C. Kids don't get skill development they need.

We do not provide a safe environment for kids to play. There is no accountability for abusive behavior, this drives kids out of the sport.

So, between cost, abuse, and lack of value, families are spending their dollars elswhere. This trend will continue and accelerate.
They divide the kids up so the better kids aren't skating circles and embarrassing the average kids.

Maybe the coaching sucks in the organization you're part of but the one in my local area has former pros/OHL/NCAA players coaching the teams, they have a lot to offer.

There are lots of programs to provide safe environment for kids to play, it is addressed all the time and when a concern for an individual not having the best intentions for a kid comes up it is dealt with.

But, you seem to have such an axe to grind I don't think you'd ever be satisfied...I wouldn't want you near youth hockey because you'd be such a drag complaining all the time.
 
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