4 - Nations Tournament

[Fun For All]

I've been Development 1 certified in Hockey for 10 years, and C license in soccer for 5. I've been on local and AAA boards in hockey, and run development for hockey and soccer organizations.

My best players are on scholarship in US prep schools, because the OHL pathway is bad for player (and personal) development. My own kids are playing in "outlaw" programs because the development and the accountability is better.

I walked away from Hockey Canada because I couldn't ignore the abuse anymore. Or the money laundering / outright theft. We need a catholic church moment in hockey. How much psychological and physical abuse and sexual assault are you willing to fund with your own money?

Look at what is going on in Brantford right now: Instead of folding a team to protect a kid, they're hiding behind "process" so a board-member and/or sponosor's kid doesn't have to face consequences for their actions.. That is going on in every association in the province right now to a greater or lesser degree. I will bet dollars against doughnuts that if you are involved with a local organization you have heard "That's just kids being kids" or "they're just volunteers" to avoid dealing with abuse.

Are you telling us your resume to impress? Development 1 certified in hockey is not that difficult, lots and lots are at that level it's not that hard to achieve, and there are lots of clowns on local hockey boards, the resume you tell is pretty routine and not as impressive as you think.

OHL pathway is bad for player development...sure...

You must have an axe to grind.

 

[boobtoucher]

Are you telling us your resume to impress? Development 1 certified in hockey is not that difficult, lots and lots are at that level it's not that hard to achieve, and there are lots of clowns on local hockey boards, the resume you tell is pretty routine and not as impressive as you think.

OHL pathway is bad for player development...sure...

You must have an axe to grind.

You claimed I didn't know much about it. I more than certainly do.

Look at first-round draft numbers, 2024 was a HUGE year for the OHL, and they just hit where they should be based on player volume:
9 OHLers in the first round, from 20 teams
5 WHLers for 22 teams
6 from USHL - 16 teams

And the best 2 came from college hockey. Expect that trend to continue, especially after the OHL/NCAA transfer changes. The best kids will do a year or 2 in JR, then go play college on scholarship.

2023 - 5 OHL
2022 - 2 OHL
2021 - 1 OHL
2020 - 7 OHL

I absolutely have an axe to grind: My tax dollars are funding an organization that covers up the abuse of kids (and adults) and financially exploits families while providing 2nd rate player development.

 

[glamphotographer]

Boston is not a Trump town. Never has been, never will be. Boston has more in common with Toronto than it does with Dallas or Florida. Even if they'd never admit it.

Boston is Democratic Blue. In Texas much of Dallas and Houston is Democrat, it's the rural areas that are Red.

 

[glamphotographer]

I've been Development 1 certified in Hockey for 10 years, and C license in soccer for 5. I've been on local and AAA boards in hockey, and run development for hockey and soccer organizations.

We need a catholic church moment in hockey. How much psychological and physical abuse and sexual assault are you willing to fund with your own money?

I'm not sure Catholic Church is the best term to use here. With their history with young boys.

 

[boobtoucher]

I'm not sure Catholic Church is the best term to use here. With their history with young boys.

Oh no, intentional and valid comparison, up to and including moving the abusing priest/coach to the next town over.

We use "grooming/groomer" too much today, but Hockey Canada is perfectly set up to allow groomers to take advantage of the system.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/brampton-hockey-coach-charges-1.7211999

Sask. hockey coach convicted of historic sex crime back on day parole after 'behavioural concerns'

A former WHL coach found guilty last year of sexually assaulting a teen boy is back on day parole.

www.ctvnews.ca

Man arrested twice in 10 days in child pornography investigation

Accused may have used the names 'Peter Parker' and 'Pete Pocket' while engaging online, police say

www.thoroldtoday.ca

 

[Fun For All]

You claimed I didn't know much about it. I more than certainly do.

Look at first-round draft numbers, 2024 was a HUGE year for the OHL, and they just hit where they should be based on player volume:
9 OHLers in the first round, from 20 teams
5 WHLers for 22 teams
6 from USHL - 16 teams

And the best 2 came from college hockey. Expect that trend to continue, especially after the OHL/NCAA transfer changes. The best kids will do a year or 2 in JR, then go play college on scholarship.

2023 - 5 OHL
2022 - 2 OHL
2021 - 1 OHL
2020 - 7 OHL

I absolutely have an axe to grind: My tax dollars are funding an organization that covers up the abuse of kids (and adults) and financially exploits families while providing 2nd rate player development.

I have nothing against the USHL and NCAA hockey unlike you saying that “Canadian Hockey is dead” which is a gross extreme biased statement from a guy who seems to have a grudge…don’t support it, you won’t be missed.

 

[boobtoucher]

I have nothing against the USHL and NCAA hockey unlike you saying that “Canadian Hockey is dead” which is a gross extreme biased statement from a guy who seems to have a grudge…don’t support it, you won’t be missed.

Facts is facts.

Our enrolment: Down, US enrolment: Up.
# of NHL Players: Canada Down, US up

The lines are crossing/have crossed on all metrics.

Imagine how much better our player develpment would be with the 2.4 million this lady stole:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/omha-fraud-1.6203093

and the $9 million we paid to victims of sexual assault:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/hockey-canada-sexual-assault-crisis-parliamentary-committee-1.6535248

Your registration dollars fund this. Your municipal tax dollars fund this. Your Provincial tax dollars fund this, and your federal tax dollars fund this. Participating in Hockey Canada programming is paying so that there can be more fraud and sexual assault.

 

[glamphotographer]

The OT goal wasn't Matthews' fault, it was Adam Fox's fault he took the wrong path to the back of the net to cut off a pass around the backboards. Steve Dangle explains it.

 

[The Oracle]

Look at what is going on in Brantford right now: Instead of folding a team to protect a kid, they're hiding behind "process" so a board-member and/or sponosor's kid doesn't have to face consequences for their actions.. That is going on in every association in the province right now to a greater or lesser degree. I will bet dollars against doughnuts that if you are involved with a local organization you have heard "That's just kids being kids" or "they're just volunteers" to avoid dealing with abuse.

You want the team to be folded before there is a third party investigation?

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

I have nothing against the USHL and NCAA hockey unlike you saying that “Canadian Hockey is dead” which is a gross extreme biased statement from a guy who seems to have a grudge…don’t support it, you won’t be missed.

Exactly this. Canadian hockey is far from "dead". And, to paraphrase a sports columnist I read today, Team Canada is hockey royalty; Team USA is still only the Miracle on Ice. The numbers, medal counts and trophies Canada has compared to the US proves that.

 

[Granite Top]

You know, a benefit to Canada becoming part of the US is it wouldn't be 32 years since the Stanley Cup was in the country anymore!

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

You know, a benefit to Canada becoming part of the US is it wouldn't be 32 years since the Stanley Cup was in the country anymore!

I've never been overly bothered by this, since it's never American talent that wins those Stanley Cups. Just saying.

 

[smuddan]

The OT goal wasn't Matthews' fault, it was Adam Fox's fault he took the wrong path to the back of the net to cut off a pass around the backboards. Steve Dangle explains it.

Sorry, I don’t buy Dangle’s homer point of view. I’m a big Matthews fan and I’ve defended him (and Marner) against unfair criticism; but on the ot goal, he failed to realize the most dangerous guy was his check, i e McDavid in the slot. Marner was open in the corner but he’s not dangerous there. He had practically no angle to shoot and if he skated out, Fox would probably have time to catch up to him. Just because Fox made a bad play doesn’t levitate Matthews’ blame for making a bad decision.

 

[glamphotographer]

Sorry, I don’t buy Dangle’s homer point of view. I’m a big Matthews fan and I’ve defended him (and Marner) against unfair criticism; but on the ot goal, he failed to realize the most dangerous guy was his check, i e McDavid in the slot. Marner was open in the corner but he’s not dangerous there. He had practically no angle to shoot and if he skated out, Fox would probably have time to catch up to him. Just because Fox made a bad play doesn’t levitate Matthews’ blame for making a bad decision.

If you watched the video and the source wasn't from Dangle he was just explaining it to us. If you watch the video they break down the explanation. Also on American broadcasts like ESPN hockey analysis did mention Fox's responsibility was to take the right path to the back of the net to cut off the pass.

 

[bver_hunter]

He jumped for joy like like a hockey bunny wishing he was McDavids wife.
Loser.

Fact is that he celebrated with the Canadians. Unlike the stupidity of Trump's jives at his rallies, or that idiot Musk with that chainsaw dancing all over the stage.........ROTFLMAO!!
But he took a great swipe at that moron TrumPutin who has egg all over his face after being the actual loser at the losing end:

"You can't take our country - and you can't take our game," Trudeau wrote on X.

Canada-US 4 Nations finals game: Trudeau swipes at Trump after win

Trudeau posted on social media "You can't take our country - and you can't take our game".

www.bbc.com

 

[bver_hunter]

He's so cringe here, lol...He should have been at the game.

Although maybe he's been told not to stoke things further.

Why, was your cult leader TrumPutin at the game itself?
No wonder that the Americans are doing this:

Hockey Fans Blaming President Trump For Team USA's Loss To Canada

https://thespun.com/hockey/hockey-fans-blaming-trump-for-team-usa-loss-to-canada

You sound like you are really frustrated the TrumPutin is the one on the losing side..........ROTFLMAO!!

 

[glamphotographer]

Fact is that he celebrated with the Canadians. Unlike the stupidity of Trump's jives at his rallies, or that idiot Musk with that chainsaw dancing all over the stage.........ROTFLMAO!!
But he took a great swipe at that moron TrumPutin who has egg all over his face after being the actual loser at the losing end:

"You can't take our country - and you can't take our game," Trudeau wrote on X.

Canada-US 4 Nations finals game: Trudeau swipes at Trump after win

Trudeau posted on social media "You can't take our country - and you can't take our game".

www.bbc.com

You know who we don't see celebrating Canada's win? Pierre Poilivere.

 

[The Oracle]

Why, was your cult leader TrumPutin at the game itself?

Who's that? And how is this fictitious person my cult leader

 

[shack]

The OT goal wasn't Matthews' fault, it was Adam Fox's fault he took the wrong path to the back of the net to cut off a pass around the backboards.

So you're saying that there's some uncertainty as to whom to thank.

 

[bver_hunter]

Who's that?

A certain POTUS who behaves like Putin as he thinks that Canada should be annexed just like Crimea and The Donbas Regions!!