So that then is the justification for the Oct.7 terror attack.
In every terror attack that every occurred in history, the perpetrator felt that they were justified.
Trump : Palestinians, please move out of GAZA. We (USA) will clean it up and make it the Riviera of the middle east. Then you can come back.
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In every terror attack that every occurred in history, the perpetrator felt that they were justified.
I've been over this with him before.
He doesn't care.
When I brought it up last time, no one was able to tell me where the 19 million was supposed to have come from.
In fairness to the article, though, the poll's cover page/press release used to mention 19 million as well (even though it isn't in the poll anywhere).
So it seems the IMEU Policy Project has since dropped that number, perhaps realizing they couldn't back it up.
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No, the PLO tried (and failed) to assassinate the Israeli ambassador to the United Kingdom and Israel used it as an excuse to invade Lebanon.
And Frank suddenly added 5 million more voters than the original article, too, for reasons which are unclear here.
Israel killed 20,000 people in Lebanon in 1982.
Clearly you hate muslims, Lebanese, Palestinian or otherwise.
19 million dems who voted for Biden didn't vote during the 2024 election.This is the poll link
IMEU Policy Project Post-Election Polling Shows Gaza Cost Harris Votes — IMEU Policy Project
www.imeupolicyproject.org
Where does it say that 19M voters stayed home because of Gaza? It just doesn't.
It says that of the voters who voted for Biden in 2020, but did not vote for Harris in 2024 AND voted for someone else, 30% did so because of Gaza.
Entirely different than what you are claiming.
Unless am misreading something there.
If 29% of those say the top reason they didn't vote than you can say about 6 million dems stayed home because of the genocide.
(I went with 1/3, but 29% is the number in the poll, and my 24 million was from memory. 19 million is the number in the poll I posted)
trump only won by about 1 or 2 million, if I recall.
From 2020 to 2024, Democrats saw a staggering dropoff in support at the presidential level, with some 19 million people who voted for Joe Biden staying home (or not mailing in their ballots) in 2024. Now, a new survey conducted by YouGov suggests Biden’s support for Israel’s unrelenting assault on Gaza played a surprisingly large role in the choice of those previous Biden supporters not to vote. (Read the full poll here.)
The top reason those non-voters cited, above the economy at 24 percent and immigration at 11 percent, was Gaza: a full 29 percent cited the ongoing onslaught as the top reason they didn’t cast a vote in 2024.
Kamala Harris Paid the Price for Not Breaking With Biden on Gaza, New Poll Shows
Twenty-nine percent of non-voters who supported Biden in 2020 said U.S. support for the genocide was the top reason they sat the 2024 election, according to a survey by YouGov.
www.dropsitenews.com
I'm not sure where that number came from, I think the earlier tallies had lower vote counts.
If this is more accurate:
Harris received far fewer votes (69.3 million) than Biden (81.3 million) did four years ago.
Newsweek uses the same numbers.
Where did the millions of Joe Biden votes go?
Kamala Harris is set to fall short of President Joe Biden's tally of 81.2 million votes four years ago.
www.newsweek.com
That would put the difference at about 12 million people who stayed home with 29% of them saying the top reason was Gaza.
That gives you 4 million people and would win the election against trump.
The article just made that up.
The poll does not say anything about this 19M.
frank's sources are usually worthless.
This DropSiteNews was rated almost as left wing as you can get. Their fact checking is sketchy and their commentary is extremely one-sided as reviewed by Media Bias/Fact Check.
Overall, we rate Drop Site News as Left Biased for its consistent opposition to U.S. interventionist policies and editorial perspectives that align with the progressive left. Its reporting is rated Mostly Factual due to one-sided narratives shaped by its strong anti-war stance. And their bias rating was -6.4 which means they have very little credibility.
Drop Site News - Bias and Credibility - Media Bias/Fact Check
He presented a poll one time in an attempt to prove a point. It turns out that the polling company was a one-man operation who was barely out of high school, charged $100 if he was supposed to wear a suit and who's ambition was to be a professional gamer. frank is consistent in his words and deeds. Always check his sources.
DropSiteNews seems to be rated as highly credible by media bias fact check but they just made this up on this poll.
Not sure if they are a trashy source or if MediaBiasFactCheck is trashy for not catching that lmao.
But regardless Frank wont admit it even when I use the same poll referenced in the article.
The poll does not even address the 19M people who supposedly didn't vote in the 2024 elections!
That's not how I interpreted it. How can a media outlet who is rated almost to the end of the scale, i.e. being "extreme" left be considered highly credible. They had a rating of -6.4
As a comparative, their factuality rating was +2.2 which is still mediocre, seeing as their designation of "mostly factual" is only 3rd with "high" and "very high" being above their mediocre designation.
So a 2.2 is mediocre for factuality, yet they were a negative 6.4 for how biased they are. One can't be that biased yet somehow have credibility, let alone "high" credibility as you described it.
More importantly, we seem agree that frank does not debate honourably.
I was repeating what they have on their website.
I guess it is possible to be factual while leaning one way or another.
But in this case they were not factual either lol.
You're throwing out the word illegal a lot it won't mean anything once we're done...the US was already funding most international humanitarian aid through UN, UNICEF etc etc...you keep chanting aid...US is in debt for trillions...you can't keep giving away tax $$$ while also in a hole...nothing is working for the democrats...you can keep whining with them...Americans are happy with what Trump is doing...
19 million isn't in the poll.
Anywhere.
It's in the dropsitenews.com article as an unsourced number.
Trump won by 2,284,967 votes.
Neither of those are more accurate.If this is more accurate:
Harris received far fewer votes (69.3 million) than Biden (81.3 million) did four years ago.
Newsweek uses the same numbers.
Where did the millions of Joe Biden votes go?
Kamala Harris is set to fall short of President Joe Biden's tally of 81.2 million votes four years ago.
Those articles were written before the votes were all counted, as the Newsweek article itself acknowledges right up front.
" At the time of writing, with many more votes still to be counted, "
Except that in fact, Harris received 6,265,888 fewer votes.
So even if you make the obviously incorrect assumption that that number is all "people who voted for Biden last time and didn't vote for Harris this time" and you interpret 29% "Gaza was the most important" as "I would have changed my vote if that had changed" (which isn't the same thing), then you get 1,817,108 votes added to Harris, leaving her 400,000 short of a popular vote victory.
In other words, in the most generous interpretation of the numbers from this poll, you don't get the conclusion you insist it gives you.
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Can you not comprehend that what occurred on Oct 7th was despicable and we all condemned it.
No one is making any excuses for the terrorist actions. However, the indiscriminate bombings and razing to the ground of the infrastructure does not justify the killings of the over 60,000 mainly women and children. This whole continuous friction between the Israelis and Palestinians could have ended with a two state solution. Majority of the nations around the Globe will agree with this fact!!
Yet, when in the same breath, you talk about a "75 year" occupation, I comprehend that that sounds like a justification/excuse for something that you say you condemn. It makes your claims of condemnation ring hollow.
If you can acknowledge that so many women and children died because they were used as human shields by hamas, a fact that Sinwar admitted was their strategy, you'd realize that it was NOT indiscriminate.
These pro Palestine fools are so tiresome. Like how hard is it to understand that:
1. Palestinians want the entire river to the sea territory.
2. They are prepared to steal babies and bring them into tunnels to achieve this goal, and their youth is indoctrinated to believe it’s okay
3. Giving them a state now would reward terrorism and give them a foothold and allow them to accumulate weapons and resources for a new attack
4. All the peace loving nations and other fools that are currently advocating for Palestine and two state solution will do the following when Palestine inevitably attacks israel: “fuck! Oh well…” which does not really give israel a lot of confidence to give Palestinians that foothold allowing for a perfect opportunity for an attack.
It appears to be from numbers reported the day of the election, long before the votes were all counted.
Of course, determining how many 2020 Biden voters changed their vote or didn't vote can't be done from just counting how many fewer votes Harris got.
The closest we will get to such a number will probably be later this year when Pew does a validated voter count breakdown.
And even then that will be an estimate.
True,
If the autogolpe is successful, the illegality won't matter.
If no one will enforce a law, it isn't really much of a law, is it?
We will see how long they are happy.
And I know very well that foreign aid isn't particularly popular.
Like I said before, polls constantly show that US Taxpayers don't want it to be more than 10% of the budget.
(I realize you would prefer it to be zero, but the people don't really agree with you.)
