No other POTUS had to face October 7, which was the biggest attack on Jews after the Holocaust.
And supporting Israel equally or not, it is true that all presidents support Israel.
Trump : Palestinians, please move out of GAZA. We (USA) will clean it up and make it the Riviera of the middle east. Then you can come back.
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And supporting Israel equally or not, it is true that all presidents support Israel.
Prior to Oct 7, Netanyahu was facing the end of his political career, with corruption charges upcoming and his coalition falling apart.
The article misrepresents the poll and draws conclusions that dont exist.19 million people who voted for Biden stayed home and didn't vote.
The #1 reason cited was the genocide.
From 2020 to 2024, Democrats saw a staggering dropoff in support at the presidential level, with some 19 million people who voted for Joe Biden staying home (or not mailing in their ballots) in 2024. Now, a new survey conducted by YouGov suggests Biden’s support for Israel’s unrelenting assault on Gaza played a surprisingly large role in the choice of those previous Biden supporters not to vote. (Read the full poll here.)
The top reason those non-voters cited, above the economy at 24 percent and immigration at 11 percent, was Gaza: a full 29 percent cited the ongoing onslaught as the top reason they didn’t cast a vote in 2024.
Kamala Harris Paid the Price for Not Breaking With Biden on Gaza, New Poll Shows
Twenty-nine percent of non-voters who supported Biden in 2020 said U.S. support for the genocide was the top reason they sat the 2024 election, according to a survey by YouGov.www.dropsitenews.com
The poll states that the ones who voted for Biden in 2020, but did not vote for Harris in 2024, but did vote for someone else besides Harris did so because of Gaza.
The article seems to extrapolate that and falsely claim that the 19M people stayed home because of Gaza, which is not even addressed in the poll.
Unrelated to this.
I am saying all US presidents of both parties are pro-Israel.
Yes, you keep repeating that.
Please read this book and tell me that you still think all american presidents supported Israel exactly the same way.
Palestine Peace Not Apartheid
Following his #1 New York Times bestseller, Our Endangered Values, the former president, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, offers an assessment of w...
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Their individual feelings apart, they wouldn't go against Israel politically.Yes, you keep repeating that.
Please read this book and tell me that you still think all american presidents supported Israel exactly the same way.
Palestine Peace Not Apartheid
Following his #1 New York Times bestseller, Our Endangered Values, the former president, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, offers an assessment of w...
I guess that is what matters.
Bullshit, shaq.
Trump won by about 2 million votes, that poll says about 8 million people chose not to vote because of Harris' support of Palestine.
That was more than enough votes to win.
The entire point is that they didn't vote for anyone else and that they chose to not vote for hitler lite over hitler.
As I said would happen before the election and as happened.
In 1982 Israel bombed Lebanon and killed 5000 people and Reagan said that was too many civilian deaths.
Ronald Reagan had a 30 minute phone call with PM Begin and ended the invasion.
That was always an option for Biden, threaten to end support and Israel would have to stop.
Biden chose to pay for genocide instead.
I read the poll and I am telling you the conclusions that they have listed.
Nowhere in the poll do they talk about the 19M that didn't cast the vote.
The article you posted just made that up.
In 1982 did anyone from Gaza or Lebanon kill 1200 Israelis and kidnap 200 of them?
That was back in the PLO days.
Palestinians have been resisting the illegal occupation of Palestine for 76 years.
Why do you argue that resistance to an occupation is wrong and only the occupiers are allowed self defence?
The entire world has voted to demand Israel and the illegal occupation.
Obviously I’m citing your fabrication of my post. Not only did you change my words but left out most of the words that give it full meaning. If you want to say something different than me, don’t edit my posts. Just speak for yourself
Im not interested in your claim that there is no political reality where the US does not support Israel. That’s naive. It’s just a hoary and lazy truism. There are no absolutes in politics. But it was an attempt to deflect from the specifics about Biden and Trump we had been discussing.
I, in fact said:
‘If Biden hadn’t not financed, armed, provided diplomatic cover and provided military cover, Gaza would not have suffered this genocidal apocalypse.’
No matter which President is in power, they make individual choices about what form that support will take and what they are willing to accept. Biden, Harris and the Dems made a choice to supply, arm, finance, provide military personnel and provide diplomatic cover to an Occupying Power to commit a murderous genocidal apocalypse against an occupied people. The US always knew where this was going. Biden and Co. own that. It could not have happened without US participation and it’s full throated support.
There is no political loyalty that will cause me to rationalize genocide or launder the reputations of those who participated.
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I asked in 1982 did anyone from Gaza or Lebanon conduct an attack on Israel that equals or exceeds the magnitude of the attack on Israel on October 7?
So explain where you see an alternate reality where an American President ceases all support for Israel especially after something like October 7.
Who is that President or Presidential candidate?
The one constant in this conflict is American Israeli friendship. Do you deny that?
Any President, Biden or otherwise, would have done the exact same thing.
Infact if it was Trump he'd have done worse.
So it boils down to 2 choices. Harris vs Trump.
Who is better for the Palestinians?
You are unwilling to admit that Muslims who voted for Trump, fucked up by voting for him.
It was an attack on Israeli’s, not Jews. Israel is their occupier. And what possible significance of the ”biggest attack after the holocaust”? PS…it wasn’t, but you don’t know your history.
Don’t you mean has Israel ever killed more Palestinians than the number of Israeli’s killed by Palestinians on Oct 7? What would your answer be?
And has Israel ever held more Palestinians as hostages than the number of Israeli’s held hostage by Palestinians on Oct 7? What would your answer be?
Regardless of that, it does not take away form the fact that all US presidents support Israel.
And perhaps there were bigger wars but I dont think any other attack resulted in the largest single day deaths in Israel.
Dont resort to whataboutism or put words in my mouth.
I asked clearly if in 1982 there was an attack that equaled or exceeded the magnitude of the attack on October 7.
If the answer is no, (and it is no) then Raegan picking up the phone and getting Israel to back down (and am taking Frankfooter's word that it is true) is not really a scenario that could be emulated on October 8 by Biden.
‘You are beginning to sound and reason like shack
Whatever that means.
My claim is that muslims fucked up voting for Trump and they did so out of revenge.
It was stupid to do so.
Do you deny that?
