Elon Musk dismantles USAID

WyattEarp

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an unfailing belief that trump cares about you
He doesn't give a fuck about us. Trump has an enormous ego. He wants to go down in history as a transformational President.

We've had Democratic Presidents with similar motivation. Biden might be no different from desiring this place in history.
 

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addict2sex maybe you are an addict to posting instead?

I will come back commenting in 2028 once I finish reading your post.
It's funny that all of these tDSers talking about the huge "waste" that USAID supposedly is have never spoken one word about it up until now. Addicted2sex has never even heard of it in his life. Now he's an expert and an advocate.

trump loves the poorly educated. They are so gullible and can be easily manipulated.
 
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Data security and privacy is a very valid concern.
Especially when it concerns SSNs, account numbers etc.,
Payments should not be terminated overnight because Elon said so.
Transparency can be achieved carefully, without an unelected billionaire and his goon squad composed of some 20 year old whipper snappers, with no senate confirmation, getting access to sensitive data overnight.
Any terminations of payments should be carefully reviewed, explained and then acted upon.
DOGE is subterfuge and a side show circus act created to normalize America's descent into authoritarianism.
Musk gets all of this personal info, yet says it's a crime that the names of his teenage "gang of six" are exposed.
 
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It's a weak use of a word that is generally meant to describe abusing power and authority for personal gain.
Which is another mystery here although you could infer personal gain by what he has said.
For example, his gleeful gutting of USAID to South Africa while pushing the white nationalist conspiracy theory of white farmers being targeted in South Africa.
So the word is still applied appropriately.
 
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Once trump got elected it became too late.

Fuck all those people in Michigan who didn't voted for trump instead of Harris because she didn't support the terrorists enough.
Wonder how that Imam who spoke at the rally feels lol.
People kept asking "what worse could happen".
Well, things can always get worse.
 

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Which is another mystery here although you could infer personal gain by what he has said.
For example, his gleeful gutting of USAID to South Africa while pushing the white nationalist conspiracy theory of white farmers being targeted in South Africa.
So the word is still applied appropriately.
I'm guessing he has strong beliefs on the matter.
And it sounds like you have your own perspective that is in opposition.
That doesn't make his actions personal gain.
Political gain is not equated with personal gain.
 

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I'm guessing he has strong beliefs on the matter.
And it sounds like you have your own perspective that is in opposition.
That doesn't make his actions personal gain.
Political gain is not equated with personal gain.
Political gain can very much be equated to personal gain.
Power, money, clout, pushing one's agenda and world view etc.,
And yes he has strong views.
Hence my criticism that he is allowed to act on his whims and isn't following transparent procedures and protocols.
That would qualify as corruption and abuse of power.
 
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Political gain can very much be equated to personal gain.
Power, money, clout, pushing one's agenda and world view etc.,
And yes he has strong views.
Hence my criticism that he is allowed to act on his whims and isn't following transparent procedures and protocols.
That would qualify as corruption and abuse of power.
Not really.

Your definition of corruption would encompass every act done for political gain. Biden's Executive Orders to forgive student loans could then be considered corrupt because he was attempting to win political favor with certain parts of the electorate.

I'm just extending your logic. Your distaste of Trump's policies leads you to equate political gain with corruption.

Everyone would agree that politics almost always has winners and losers. Certain policies of the Biden Administration and previous administrations are losing out to Trump's policies.
 

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Not really.

Your definition of corruption would encompass every act done for political gain. Biden's Executive Orders to forgive student loans could then be considered corrupt because he was attempting to win political favor with certain parts of the electorate.

I'm just extending your logic. Your distaste of Trump's policies leads you to equate political gain with corruption.

Everyone would agree that politics almost always has winners and losers. Certain policies of the Biden Administration and previous administrations are losing out to Trump's policies.
I said political gain can be equated to personal gain.
Which means that when political gain is pursued with personal gain as the ulterior motive, it qualifies as corruption and abuse of power.
Which is what am alleging that Elon and Trump are engaged in.
Hence their lack of transparency or protocol while justifying their whims as democratic mandates.
 

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How long until he starts sending in the troops to break up all the protests that will continue to pop up.
Trump's not going to start with troops, even if he really does like the idea.
The usual beatings by cops will go first.
 

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How long until he starts sending in the troops to break up all the protests that will continue to pop up.
that depends...if the protests starts causing too much disruption for the residents and small businesses....maybe it's time for him to freeze some bank accounts...isn't that the right thing to do?
 

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It's funny that all of these tDSers talking about the huge "waste" that USAID supposedly is have never spoken one word about it up until now. Addicted2sex has never even heard of it in his life. Now he's an expert and an advocate.

trump loves the poorly educated. They are so gullible and can be easily manipulated.
There has been an obsession with USAID on the fringes for a while.
Depending on where they hang out, some of these people may have actually been obsessing over it for a while.
 

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There has been an obsession with USAID on the fringes for a while.
Depending on where they hang out, some of these people may have actually been obsessing over it for a while.
You think the audit on USAID is unwarranted? You support USAID to keep going without double checking where the money is going?
 

Valcazar

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You think the audit on USAID is unwarranted? You support USAID to keep going without double checking where the money is going?
Musk isn't doing an audit on USAID to check where the money is going.


You aren't under the impression there haven't been previous audits of USAID, are you?
 
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