It is isn’t it"The fear is so intoxicating" is a pretty revealing thing to say.
It is isn’t it"The fear is so intoxicating" is a pretty revealing thing to say.
LOLNO ! you do not get to ring fence the discussion to avoid the real underlying problem
I'm not the one with the fetish.excited ?
what is wrong with you ?
And again, if you really believe in this so much, you should be incandescently angry at Musk for making a joke of something you think of paramount importance.i know what will happen if governments do not address their debt and it will be a nightmare for everyone
Everyone who has looked at the numbers has pointed out how much bullshit and lies he put on his "receipts" page.I believe that "liberal rag" the Wall St journal even did a tally on Musk's claims of savings and settled on $2.6b, not 55 something billion or whatever the initial boast was. BTW I think NPR also did their own analysis and pretty much agreed with the WSJ.
Like I said, at least you're very up front and honest about it.It is isn’t it![]()
I tried to point out that if I hired a guy to find savings and he produced what Musk did with so much bs he'd be gone in a heartbeat. But it seemed some did not get it.Everyone who has looked at the numbers has pointed out how much bullshit and lies he put on his "receipts" page.
They have dropped the 5 biggest "savings" now, I think.
I know when they first rolled it out it added up to 16 billion (that was with all the false info) while claiming 55. Then they fixed some of the biggest errors (like the non-existent 8 billion dollar contract) but never updated the 55 billion number.
I'm not sure what total they are claiming now, (they may have revised it, may have not), but I do know they started quietly pulling the ones they had been caught bullshitting about off the page.
Like I said, if Larue believed what he claimed to, he would be furious, and that's if we actually pretend to believe the point of the "department" is to actually deal with waste, fraud, and abuse.
Of course, that page exists as cover so they can keep pretending that is what they are doing while they get on with their real work.
I think that's about where I got into it.I tried to point out that if I hired a guy to find savings and he produced what Musk did with so much bs he'd be gone in a heartbeat. But it seemed some did not get it.
It is about the show.It seems to be about the show...whilst they're losing weight by amputating limbs. Then occasionally hurriedly trying to sew them back on.
Right on que:NO ! you do not get to ring fence the discussion to avoid the real underlying problem
excited ?
what is wrong with you ?
i know what will happen if governments do not address their debt and it will be a nightmare for everyone
how you can ignore this reality is just plain strange
what you want to talk about is meaningless relative to what will happen if governments do not reign in their spendingLOL
We've reached the "EVERYONE HAS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT! NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO DICTATE THE CONVERSATION EXCEPT FOR ME!!!"" part of the discussion, I see.
Broken robot on a loop usually isn't too far behind.
but you refuse to discuss this at all so you must be unbelievable dishonestThe US federal budget for fiscal year 2024 ran from October 1, 2023 to September 30, 2024. The federal government spent $6.9 trillion in 2024, which was 24% of the country's GDP. The federal budget deficit for 2024 was $1.83 trillion.
you are completely wrong and have been wrong from the outsetI think that's about where I got into it.
Larue trying so hard to not get it was kind of interesting.
It is about the show.
A lot of what Trump and those around him does is very performative.
That's what's gotten them to power, so why do otherwise?
None of this is about cutting waste or the debt. It's about getting rid of things they don't want, getting their hands on monies they can't otherwise access, and just generally seizing power.
simply because you do not want to look at the facts of the debt bombI also don't support "look, all the fraud and corruption is perfectly fine as long as in the end it serves my ideology" like you do.
Your ideological blinders are very strong (as we've discussed before), and I don't really expect you to ever take them off.
so fire himI tried to point out that if I hired a guy to find savings and he produced what Musk did with so much bs he'd be gone in a heartbeat. But it seemed some did not get it.
It seems to be about the show...whilst they're losing weight by amputating limbs. Then occasionally hurriedly trying to sew them back on.
but you refuse to discuss this fact at allThe US federal budget for fiscal year 2024 ran from October 1, 2023 to September 30, 2024. The federal government spent $6.9 trillion in 2024, which was 24% of the country's GDP. The federal budget deficit for 2024 was $1.83 trillion.
All liberal rag trash funded by free money hidden slush fund by USAID. So what ever analysis they put is garbage. They the liberal trash WSJ journalists is still mad losing their source of free money.I believe that "liberal rag" the Wall St journal even did a tally on Musk's claims of savings and settled on $2.6b, not 55 something billion or whatever the initial boast was. BTW I think NPR also did their own analysis and pretty much agreed with the WSJ.
You know the WSJ is staunchly conservative, right? And not funded by usaid.All liberal rag trash funded by free money hidden slush fund by USAID. So what ever analysis they put is garbage. They the liberal trash WSJ journalists is still mad losing their source of free money.
is ELON their boss? If you were Federal worker and Justin sent you a nasty email what would you do or better yet, one of his friends sent you a nasty email, what would you do?IMO, that's what you fantasize...will he? maybe...who knows... but he's right..
If my boss sends out an email and i don't reply..he'd be pissed...
BTW nothing about WSJ in the piece you posted.USAID Sent Millions To Ukraine In Secret Slush Funds, Investigators Found
WEDNESDAY, FEB 26, 2025 - 06:25 PM
Authored by Mark Tapscott via The Epoch Times ,
U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) officials repeatedly refused to allow investigators working for Senate DOGE Caucus Chairman Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) to examine documents related to U.S. tax dollars allegedly intended to help Ukraine combat the Russian invasion, investigators told The Epoch Times.
Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) speaks to reporters as she walks to a Senate luncheon at the U.S. Capitol on Nov. 19, 2024. Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images
When the investigators were finally allowed to view the documents, it was “under surveillance in a highly secure room at USAID headquarters” even though “nothing USAID shared was classified,” said the investigators, who asked not to be named.
During their investigation, the Iowa Republican’s sleuths found millions of dollars of USAID programs “in secret slush funds being used to funnel millions of U.S. taxpayer dollars into Ukraine for questionable purposes unrelated to our own national interests,” they said.
“[Funds allegedly] intended to alleviate economic distress in the war-torn nation was spent on such frivolous activities as sending Ukrainian models and designers on junkets to New York City, London Fashion Week, Paris Fashion Week, and South by Southwest in Austin, Texas,” they said.
Among the secret slush funds was one providing $114,000 to fund purchases of “a premium, limited-edition furniture line,” and another $91,000 used to finance “a trade mission for a Scandinavian-style furniture line.”
Other USAID funding uncovered by the investigators included $148,000 for “a pickle maker,” $255,000 to “a producer of organic tea and coffee,” $104,00o for “an artisanal fruit tea company,” and $89,000 to support “a Ukrainian vineyard.”
USAID funding also provided $300,000 each to a dog collar manufacturer and a company selling a pet tracking application, $161,000 for “a purveyor of contemporary knitwear,” $126,000 for a “photographer for fashion design publications,” and $84,000 to support “a luxury bridal brand.”
Ernst first began investigating USAID in November 2023 with a letterto then-USAID Administrator Samantha Power.
“My support for providing weapons and munitions to Ukrainian fighters as they counter [Russian President Vladimir] Putin is steadfast,” Ernst told Power. “But I am weary of doling out nearly $25 billion in hardworking Americans’ tax dollars for so-called economic aid in Ukraine, including subsidies for overseas businesses such as a ‘luxury contemporary knitwear couture’ in Kyiv.”
In a Feb. 4 letter to U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Ernst said, “In a desperate attempt to limit congressional oversight of public information, USAID demonstrated intentional abuse of a system designed to keep our nation’s secret information secure.”
Rubio replaced Power as acting USAID administrator earlier this month. Most of the agency’s employees are on administrative leave, and a reduction-in-force process is being launched that could eliminate as many as 2,000 positions within the agency.
Information about Ernst’s investigation was made available to The Epoch Times on the same day that the House DOGE Subcommittee was preparing to convene a hearing focused on how USAID officials dispatched at least $122 million in U.S. tax dollars to multiple organizations operating in the Middle East with documented links to Hamas, Hezbollah, and al-Qaeda terrorist groups.
Middle East Forum (MEF) Executive Director Gregg Roman told The Epoch Times on Tuesday that he will testify before the hearing’spanel that “there’s a fox loose in the henhouse of our foreign aid system.”
“This problem began under the Obama administration, grew under the Biden administration, and now requires immediate action to halt dangerous mismanagement and a fatal moral confusion,” Roman said. “We’re not just talking about waste, fraud, and abuse, this is a national security problem. Every misdirected dollar destabilizes conflict zones and puts American lives at risk.”
The terrorist links were confirmed by MEF investigators through U.S. government documents, USAID records, and other publicly available information sources.
The House DOGE Subcommittee chaired by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) is part of the House Oversight and Accountability Committee chaired by Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.). The House DOGE panel, like the Senate DOGE caucus, was formed in response to President Donald Trump’s creation of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) led by Tesla CEO Elon Musk.
DOGE is conducting forensic audits of federal spending at all federal departments and agencies. Among the first agencies to be examined was USAID.
“What the DOGE team has uncovered with USAID is shocking, but it’s just the tip of the iceberg,” Greene said in a statementannouncing Wednesday’s hearing.
Yes, a fraud is a frauduncovering wasteful , fraud is a fraud ??????
You posted a chart that shows both parties increase the debt but then declare that this time the red party really will do it, even if trump added massive debt last time he was in office.
I see we have reachedbut you refuse to discuss this at all so you must be unbelievable dishonest