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Valcazar

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NO ! you do not get to ring fence the discussion to avoid the real underlying problem
LOL

We've reached the "EVERYONE HAS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT! NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO DICTATE THE CONVERSATION EXCEPT FOR ME!!!"" part of the discussion, I see.

Broken robot on a loop usually isn't too far behind.

excited ?
what is wrong with you ?
I'm not the one with the fetish.
If you are uncomfortable with yourself about this, maybe don't indulge it in public so much.


i know what will happen if governments do not address their debt and it will be a nightmare for everyone
And again, if you really believe in this so much, you should be incandescently angry at Musk for making a joke of something you think of paramount importance.
 
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I believe that "liberal rag" the Wall St journal even did a tally on Musk's claims of savings and settled on $2.6b, not 55 something billion or whatever the initial boast was. BTW I think NPR also did their own analysis and pretty much agreed with the WSJ.
Everyone who has looked at the numbers has pointed out how much bullshit and lies he put on his "receipts" page.
They have dropped the 5 biggest "savings" now, I think.
I know when they first rolled it out it added up to 16 billion (that was with all the false info) while claiming 55. Then they fixed some of the biggest errors (like the non-existent 8 billion dollar contract) but never updated the 55 billion number.
I'm not sure what total they are claiming now, (they may have revised it, may have not), but I do know they started quietly pulling the ones they had been caught bullshitting about off the page.

Like I said, if Larue believed what he claimed to, he would be furious, and that's if we actually pretend to believe the point of the "department" is to actually deal with waste, fraud, and abuse.

Of course, that page exists as cover so they can keep pretending that is what they are doing while they get on with their real work.
 
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Everyone who has looked at the numbers has pointed out how much bullshit and lies he put on his "receipts" page.
They have dropped the 5 biggest "savings" now, I think.
I know when they first rolled it out it added up to 16 billion (that was with all the false info) while claiming 55. Then they fixed some of the biggest errors (like the non-existent 8 billion dollar contract) but never updated the 55 billion number.
I'm not sure what total they are claiming now, (they may have revised it, may have not), but I do know they started quietly pulling the ones they had been caught bullshitting about off the page.

Like I said, if Larue believed what he claimed to, he would be furious, and that's if we actually pretend to believe the point of the "department" is to actually deal with waste, fraud, and abuse.

Of course, that page exists as cover so they can keep pretending that is what they are doing while they get on with their real work.
I tried to point out that if I hired a guy to find savings and he produced what Musk did with so much bs he'd be gone in a heartbeat. But it seemed some did not get it.
It seems to be about the show...whilst they're losing weight by amputating limbs. Then occasionally hurriedly trying to sew them back on.
 
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I tried to point out that if I hired a guy to find savings and he produced what Musk did with so much bs he'd be gone in a heartbeat. But it seemed some did not get it.
I think that's about where I got into it.
Larue trying so hard to not get it was kind of interesting.

It seems to be about the show...whilst they're losing weight by amputating limbs. Then occasionally hurriedly trying to sew them back on.
It is about the show.
A lot of what Trump and those around him does is very performative.
That's what's gotten them to power, so why do otherwise?

None of this is about cutting waste or the debt. It's about getting rid of things they don't want, getting their hands on monies they can't otherwise access, and just generally seizing power.
 
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NO ! you do not get to ring fence the discussion to avoid the real underlying problem

excited ?
what is wrong with you ?

i know what will happen if governments do not address their debt and it will be a nightmare for everyone
how you can ignore this reality is just plain strange
Right on que:

time for you to put up a laughing emoji ::ROFLMAO::and the run away like a frightened little girl


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LOL

We've reached the "EVERYONE HAS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT! NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO DICTATE THE CONVERSATION EXCEPT FOR ME!!!"" part of the discussion, I see.

Broken robot on a loop usually isn't too far behind.
what you want to talk about is meaningless relative to what will happen if governments do not reign in their spending

prove me wrong
just explain how govt is going to fix the debt bomb

if you truly think it cost 6.9 trillion dollars to run a government for a year , you either are
1, unbelievable stupid or
2. unbelievable dishonest

i do not think you are that stupid

The US federal budget for fiscal year 2024 ran from October 1, 2023 to September 30, 2024. The federal government spent $6.9 trillion in 2024, which was 24% of the country's GDP. The federal budget deficit for 2024 was $1.83 trillion.
but you refuse to discuss this at all so you must be unbelievable dishonest
 
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I think that's about where I got into it.
Larue trying so hard to not get it was kind of interesting.



It is about the show.
A lot of what Trump and those around him does is very performative.
That's what's gotten them to power, so why do otherwise?

None of this is about cutting waste or the debt. It's about getting rid of things they don't want, getting their hands on monies they can't otherwise access, and just generally seizing power.
you are completely wrong and have been wrong from the outset

you think Musk is corrupt and is trying something underhanded .>>>>> Zero facts, just rhetoric
The debt bomb problem is a mathematical certainty given the status quo > 100% factual and undeniable

social security, universal heath care, Medicare, medicade, welfare, public infrastructure funding >> all laid to waste if govt spending is not addressed NOW


yet you only want to spin your conspiracy theory and ABSOLUTLY REFUSE to even mention the 100% factual and undeniable issue

you are a bullshit artist , too afraid to be honest with yourself/ others
I also don't support "look, all the fraud and corruption is perfectly fine as long as in the end it serves my ideology" like you do.
simply because you do not want to look at the facts of the debt bomb
debt calculations do not have an ideology

this is so true if you were taking to a mirror
Your ideological blinders are very strong (as we've discussed before), and I don't really expect you to ever take them off.
 

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I tried to point out that if I hired a guy to find savings and he produced what Musk did with so much bs he'd be gone in a heartbeat. But it seemed some did not get it.
It seems to be about the show...whilst they're losing weight by amputating limbs. Then occasionally hurriedly trying to sew them back on.
so fire him
oh wait you cant

i am sure you would not like what a surgeon might need to do to you to save you life as well
i am sure you would not like what a general might need to do to you to save your country from invasion.

the opposition by the left to this audit has been very eye-opening
it is clear they will oppose any and all efforts to control govt spending

but hey lets give you another chance

just explain why you truly think it cost 6.9 trillion dollars to run a government for a year
The US federal budget for fiscal year 2024 ran from October 1, 2023 to September 30, 2024. The federal government spent $6.9 trillion in 2024, which was 24% of the country's GDP. The federal budget deficit for 2024 was $1.83 trillion.
but you refuse to discuss this fact at all

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I believe that "liberal rag" the Wall St journal even did a tally on Musk's claims of savings and settled on $2.6b, not 55 something billion or whatever the initial boast was. BTW I think NPR also did their own analysis and pretty much agreed with the WSJ.
All liberal rag trash funded by free money hidden slush fund by USAID. So what ever analysis they put is garbage. They the liberal trash WSJ journalists is still mad losing their source of free money.
 
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All liberal rag trash funded by free money hidden slush fund by USAID. So what ever analysis they put is garbage. They the liberal trash WSJ journalists is still mad losing their source of free money.
You know the WSJ is staunchly conservative, right? And not funded by usaid.
It seems just being ironic by calling it a liberal rag (remember irony is when you say something but mean the opposite) caused you to dismiss their analysis out of hand without examining it. Have a look. Then let's us know what you think.

But anytime both right and left sources are pointing out a massive deception, maybe it is.
 

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USAID Sent Millions To Ukraine In Secret Slush Funds, Investigators Found


WEDNESDAY, FEB 26, 2025 - 06:25 PM
Authored by Mark Tapscott via The Epoch Times ,
U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) officials repeatedly refused to allow investigators working for Senate DOGE Caucus Chairman Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) to examine documents related to U.S. tax dollars allegedly intended to help Ukraine combat the Russian invasion, investigators told The Epoch Times.

Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) speaks to reporters as she walks to a Senate luncheon at the U.S. Capitol on Nov. 19, 2024. Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images

When the investigators were finally allowed to view the documents, it was “under surveillance in a highly secure room at USAID headquarters” even though “nothing USAID shared was classified,” said the investigators, who asked not to be named.
During their investigation, the Iowa Republican’s sleuths found millions of dollars of USAID programs “in secret slush funds being used to funnel millions of U.S. taxpayer dollars into Ukraine for questionable purposes unrelated to our own national interests,” they said.
“[Funds allegedly] intended to alleviate economic distress in the war-torn nation was spent on such frivolous activities as sending Ukrainian models and designers on junkets to New York City, London Fashion Week, Paris Fashion Week, and South by Southwest in Austin, Texas,” they said.
Among the secret slush funds was one providing $114,000 to fund purchases of “a premium, limited-edition furniture line,” and another $91,000 used to finance “a trade mission for a Scandinavian-style furniture line.”
Other USAID funding uncovered by the investigators included $148,000 for “a pickle maker,” $255,000 to “a producer of organic tea and coffee,” $104,00o for “an artisanal fruit tea company,” and $89,000 to support “a Ukrainian vineyard.”
USAID funding also provided $300,000 each to a dog collar manufacturer and a company selling a pet tracking application, $161,000 for “a purveyor of contemporary knitwear,” $126,000 for a “photographer for fashion design publications,” and $84,000 to support “a luxury bridal brand.”
Ernst first began investigating USAID in November 2023 with a letterto then-USAID Administrator Samantha Power.
“My support for providing weapons and munitions to Ukrainian fighters as they counter [Russian President Vladimir] Putin is steadfast,” Ernst told Power. “But I am weary of doling out nearly $25 billion in hardworking Americans’ tax dollars for so-called economic aid in Ukraine, including subsidies for overseas businesses such as a ‘luxury contemporary knitwear couture’ in Kyiv.”
In a Feb. 4 letter to U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Ernst said, “In a desperate attempt to limit congressional oversight of public information, USAID demonstrated intentional abuse of a system designed to keep our nation’s secret information secure.”
Rubio replaced Power as acting USAID administrator earlier this month. Most of the agency’s employees are on administrative leave, and a reduction-in-force process is being launched that could eliminate as many as 2,000 positions within the agency.
Information about Ernst’s investigation was made available to The Epoch Times on the same day that the House DOGE Subcommittee was preparing to convene a hearing focused on how USAID officials dispatched at least $122 million in U.S. tax dollars to multiple organizations operating in the Middle East with documented links to Hamas, Hezbollah, and al-Qaeda terrorist groups.
Middle East Forum (MEF) Executive Director Gregg Roman told The Epoch Times on Tuesday that he will testify before the hearing’spanel that “there’s a fox loose in the henhouse of our foreign aid system.”
This problem began under the Obama administration, grew under the Biden administration, and now requires immediate action to halt dangerous mismanagement and a fatal moral confusion,” Roman said. “We’re not just talking about waste, fraud, and abuse, this is a national security problem. Every misdirected dollar destabilizes conflict zones and puts American lives at risk.”
The terrorist links were confirmed by MEF investigators through U.S. government documents, USAID records, and other publicly available information sources.
The House DOGE Subcommittee chaired by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) is part of the House Oversight and Accountability Committee chaired by Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.). The House DOGE panel, like the Senate DOGE caucus, was formed in response to President Donald Trump’s creation of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) led by Tesla CEO Elon Musk.
DOGE is conducting forensic audits of federal spending at all federal departments and agencies. Among the first agencies to be examined was USAID.
“What the DOGE team has uncovered with USAID is shocking, but it’s just the tip of the iceberg,” Greene said in a statementannouncing Wednesday’s hearing.
 

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IMO, that's what you fantasize...will he? maybe...who knows... but he's right..
If my boss sends out an email and i don't reply..he'd be pissed...
is ELON their boss? If you were Federal worker and Justin sent you a nasty email what would you do or better yet, one of his friends sent you a nasty email, what would you do?
 

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USAID Sent Millions To Ukraine In Secret Slush Funds, Investigators Found


WEDNESDAY, FEB 26, 2025 - 06:25 PM
Authored by Mark Tapscott via The Epoch Times ,
U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) officials repeatedly refused to allow investigators working for Senate DOGE Caucus Chairman Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) to examine documents related to U.S. tax dollars allegedly intended to help Ukraine combat the Russian invasion, investigators told The Epoch Times.

Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) speaks to reporters as she walks to a Senate luncheon at the U.S. Capitol on Nov. 19, 2024. Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images

When the investigators were finally allowed to view the documents, it was “under surveillance in a highly secure room at USAID headquarters” even though “nothing USAID shared was classified,” said the investigators, who asked not to be named.
During their investigation, the Iowa Republican’s sleuths found millions of dollars of USAID programs “in secret slush funds being used to funnel millions of U.S. taxpayer dollars into Ukraine for questionable purposes unrelated to our own national interests,” they said.
“[Funds allegedly] intended to alleviate economic distress in the war-torn nation was spent on such frivolous activities as sending Ukrainian models and designers on junkets to New York City, London Fashion Week, Paris Fashion Week, and South by Southwest in Austin, Texas,” they said.
Among the secret slush funds was one providing $114,000 to fund purchases of “a premium, limited-edition furniture line,” and another $91,000 used to finance “a trade mission for a Scandinavian-style furniture line.”
Other USAID funding uncovered by the investigators included $148,000 for “a pickle maker,” $255,000 to “a producer of organic tea and coffee,” $104,00o for “an artisanal fruit tea company,” and $89,000 to support “a Ukrainian vineyard.”
USAID funding also provided $300,000 each to a dog collar manufacturer and a company selling a pet tracking application, $161,000 for “a purveyor of contemporary knitwear,” $126,000 for a “photographer for fashion design publications,” and $84,000 to support “a luxury bridal brand.”
Ernst first began investigating USAID in November 2023 with a letterto then-USAID Administrator Samantha Power.
“My support for providing weapons and munitions to Ukrainian fighters as they counter [Russian President Vladimir] Putin is steadfast,” Ernst told Power. “But I am weary of doling out nearly $25 billion in hardworking Americans’ tax dollars for so-called economic aid in Ukraine, including subsidies for overseas businesses such as a ‘luxury contemporary knitwear couture’ in Kyiv.”
In a Feb. 4 letter to U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Ernst said, “In a desperate attempt to limit congressional oversight of public information, USAID demonstrated intentional abuse of a system designed to keep our nation’s secret information secure.”
Rubio replaced Power as acting USAID administrator earlier this month. Most of the agency’s employees are on administrative leave, and a reduction-in-force process is being launched that could eliminate as many as 2,000 positions within the agency.
Information about Ernst’s investigation was made available to The Epoch Times on the same day that the House DOGE Subcommittee was preparing to convene a hearing focused on how USAID officials dispatched at least $122 million in U.S. tax dollars to multiple organizations operating in the Middle East with documented links to Hamas, Hezbollah, and al-Qaeda terrorist groups.
Middle East Forum (MEF) Executive Director Gregg Roman told The Epoch Times on Tuesday that he will testify before the hearing’spanel that “there’s a fox loose in the henhouse of our foreign aid system.”
This problem began under the Obama administration, grew under the Biden administration, and now requires immediate action to halt dangerous mismanagement and a fatal moral confusion,” Roman said. “We’re not just talking about waste, fraud, and abuse, this is a national security problem. Every misdirected dollar destabilizes conflict zones and puts American lives at risk.”
The terrorist links were confirmed by MEF investigators through U.S. government documents, USAID records, and other publicly available information sources.
The House DOGE Subcommittee chaired by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) is part of the House Oversight and Accountability Committee chaired by Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.). The House DOGE panel, like the Senate DOGE caucus, was formed in response to President Donald Trump’s creation of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) led by Tesla CEO Elon Musk.
DOGE is conducting forensic audits of federal spending at all federal departments and agencies. Among the first agencies to be examined was USAID.
“What the DOGE team has uncovered with USAID is shocking, but it’s just the tip of the iceberg,” Greene said in a statementannouncing Wednesday’s hearing.
BTW nothing about WSJ in the piece you posted.
BTW Epoch times is a far right run by a Chinese cult. Falun gong.
Wikipedia: The Epoch Media Group's news sites and YouTube channels have promoted conspiracy theories such as QAnon, the Great Replacement, anti-vaccine misinformation and false claims of fraud in the 2020 United States presidential election.
If there is Good news they hate the Chinese commies.
 
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Treating your workers like vermin is not a way to improve work nor get people to go the extra yard for the organization.

Most people have no idea what a lot of govt workers do because the US government won't allow them to go on PR campaigns.
Apparently said was working to contain an ebola outbreak in Africa ...
 
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Why would Donald Trump, Elon Musk and DOGE want to know if federal workers are working? :

Internal sensitive data from inside the Department of Veterans Affairs Building Portfolio
-VA Central Office 810 Vermont Avenue is a 618,000 square foot building
- It has 2,483 seats, meaning that's how many staff they can fit
- The monthly rent is $27.2 million - Their average logins is 387 people, that’s people logging in every month to work
- That building is sitting at 16% occupancy rate (So we're paying $27.2 million a month for that building with 16% occupancy rate)

6 More Leased Government Buildings Stats:
811 Vermont Avenue:
- 266,000 square feet
- 1294 seats
- $14 million dollars a month rent
- 124 average logins
- This is a 10% occupancy rate


18000 G Street - 207,000 square feet
- 1243 seats
- $11.3 million dollars a month rent
- 146 average logins
- This is a 11% occupancy rate

1100 First Street
- 48,000 square feet
- 190 seats
- $2.4 million dollars a month rent
- 55 average logins
- This is a 20% occupancy rate

1574 I Street
- 37,000 square feet
- 156 seats
- $1.7 million dollars a month rent
-No login data, this building lease is being terminated

428 I Street
- 175,000 square feet
- 583 seats
- $12.7 million dollars a month rent
- 60 average logins
-This is a 10% occupancy rate

801 I Street
- 18,000 square feet
- 86 seats
- $1.1 million dollars a month rent
- 8 average logins
- This is a 9% occupancy rate

“That’s from the Department of Veterans Affairs Building portfolio”
 
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but you refuse to discuss this at all so you must be unbelievable dishonest
I see we have reached

WHY ISN'T EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT!
YOU MUST ALL BE CORRUPT AND DISHONEST!!


and the broken robot repeating is kicking in as expected.
 
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