TRUMP WINS

Frankfooter

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I wasn’t trying to be cryptic or evasive or anything, I genuinely thought my meaning was clear 😅. I’m sure I will be met with boos and hisses regardless lol

all good
There are always different ways to take posts.

I still think backing someone convicted of fraud, who lost his rape defamation cases for the tape of 'if you're rich and famous you can grab them in the pussy and get away with it' is like backing the Leopards eating faces party.

Mind you, they both backed genocide, both represent billionaire donors and not voters and neither were good choices.
Oh well, end state capitalism and the end of the empire beacons.
 

Leimonis

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HAHAHAHAH, what a fucking joke

Wait sounds like he won’t get confirmed. Just when I thought that Seeking Arrangement received a strong advocate.

When it comes to the selection of Rep. Gaetz I just think it’s silly. I believe that the president is probably rewarding him for being such a loyal soldier to the president, but the president is smart enough, and his team is smart enough, to know that Mr. Gaetz will never get confirmed by the Senate whatsoever,” said Rep. Max Miller (R-Ohio), a former Trump aide, adding that Gaetz will get “excoriated by members of the Senate on both sides of the aisle.”


“Micky Mouse would be better than Matt Gaetz,” he added later.
 

kittykellykat

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You could clarify your point so we don't have go guess.
Or maybe you enjoy the guesses as much as I enjoy guessing.

How about you would never declare loyalty to a rapist but you'd be happy to have him control all your tax money and the Miss Universe contestants because gas will be cheaper? That a kakistocracy is a small price to pay for lower taxes.

Or how about its because you really do think trump is as brilliant as Plato once was thought to be, that despite his rapey orange exterior you believe trump's inner beauty to project that of theism's ideals of realizing some sort of inner yet universal gord.

Oh, I know, you think the US will just enjoy making america great again again and the pain of the unlubed anal entry will be forgotten once you enjoy the glow of satisfaction from the orange hero, as Greek boys used to learn with Plato.

Closer?
This was mostly tongue in cheek and a joke right
 

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Wait sounds like he won’t get confirmed. Just when I thought that Seeking Arrangement received a strong advocate.

When it comes to the selection of Rep. Gaetz I just think it’s silly. I believe that the president is probably rewarding him for being such a loyal soldier to the president, but the president is smart enough, and his team is smart enough, to know that Mr. Gaetz will never get confirmed by the Senate whatsoever,” said Rep. Max Miller (R-Ohio), a former Trump aide, adding that Gaetz will get “excoriated by members of the Senate on both sides of the aisle.”


“Micky Mouse would be better than Matt Gaetz,” he added later.
Trump is scheming to help Gaetz

 

Frankfooter

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This was mostly tongue in cheek and a joke right
Yes, but its also way too close to reality.

But hey, as Cory Doctorow describes populism

"Populism," is shorthand for many things: rage, despair, distrust of institutions and a desire to destroy them. True populism seeks to channel those totally legitimate feelings into transformative change for a caring and fair society for all. So-called "right populism" exploits those feelings, using them to drive a wedge between different groups of victims, turning them against each other, so that elites can go on screwing the squabbling factions.

The far-right parties that are marching to victory through a series global elections are different in many ways, but they all share one trait: they appeal to mistrust of institutions, claiming that the government has been captured by elites who serve them at the expense of the governed. This has the benefit of being actually true, and while the fact that far-right parties are owned by these government-capturing elites might erode their credibility, the fact that so many "progressive" parties have stepped in to defend the institutional status quo leaves an open field for reactionary wreckers:
 

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Trump is basically trolling the democrats and liberals with his appointments... 😂 😂 😂 .
When they are pissed, he picking the right people...
 

Leimonis

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HAHAHAHAH, what a fucking joke

Trump’s pick for Attorney General, Matt Gaetz, has been unable to practice law in Florida three times over the past five years due to failure to pay dues and failure to affirm compliance with trust account rules.
 
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kittykellykat

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Lmao I love how you have been communicating solely in petty GIFs for the past 72 hrs…underscored by a thicc bitch eating a glazed donut, smiling and squatting by a tree

it’s awesome and random and feels so right 😂😂😂
 

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Lmao I love how you have been communicating solely in petty GIFs for the past 72 hrs…underscored by a thicc bitch eating a glazed donut, smiling and squatting by a tree

it’s awesome and random and feels so right 😂😂😂
Anything that triggers liberals..been chasing this feeling for 4 years... 😂 😂 😂
 
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Trump’s pick for Attorney General, Matt Gaetz, has been unable to practice law in Florida three times over the past five years due to failure to pay dues and failure to affirm compliance with trust account rules.
In Trump's eyes and in the eyes of his cult here and in the US, these qualities are an asset for the position. The more crooked, the more they lie the more qualified they are.
 

Leimonis

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In Trump's eyes and in the eyes of his cult here and in the US, these qualities are an asset for the position. The more crooked, the more they lie the more qualified they are.
and it seems so obvious and yet so happily overseen by millions of his cultists...
 

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Hoemygawd. Guys.


No. That’s not what I’m saying.



No I didn’t mean that at all, either.

Try to forget the comparison for now and imagine someone just asked me:

How can you still believe Plato is a good philosopher when he had sex with little boys, and you think having sex with little boys is wrong?

How do you think I would likely answer that? It’s easy to guess.

Obviously, I would say that it’s because his philosophy is good regardless of that, because sex with little boys has no bearing on his talent as a philosopher. And conversely his philosophy has no bearing on how I much I condemn sex with little boys, it doesn’t concern that topic.

That’s reasonable isn’t it? Is Michael Jackson no longer talented if he diddled boys? Are his songs no longer good?

We can make an analogy there about leadership and governance too.

Lots of these details about what Trump allegedly did (especially sexually) have no bearing on his actual leadership qualities or what he plans to do. Is he going to make a policy on grabbing women by the pussy lmao, then legalize rape?

I don’t really care about the rape thing in this context. Not even enough to check the veracity. Doesn’t mean I’m okay with rape. If Trump fails as President will it be because he was a rapist? It won’t have anything to do with rape, you all know that, come on. It’ll depend on his other traits and capacities and decisions.



Plato as a high school teacher of boys is a different thing. Then, you would ask “Kelly how could think Plato would be a good instructor at an all boys school?” I would say I do not. Completely different set of criteria for judgement and liking sex with boys actually matters there.

Also btw, I don’t know if Plato had sex with boys. The veracity doesn’t matter. I just said that to show that the most graphic morally repugnant thing, sometimes doesn’t matter for some judgements. At least not mine.

Even it were true the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy website would still be named after Plato 😂. I promise you.

Hope that’s clearer now. Truly did not intend more time here LOL. Gn.
First of all, I thought your post was excellent and I largely agree with it. Second, it's well known here that I supported Trump over both Biden and Harris.

However, I do think there can be SOME crossover between the morality of a president and SOME policy decisions and/or SOME relationships with other politicians (domestic or foreign). For example, I wouldn't want someone with no regard for the integrity of the nuclear family deciding what the family laws should be, or a convicted rapist dealing with a female foreign head of state who had been raped herself.

The problem is that Trump critics never try to make this kind of practical connection between what Trump is alleged to have done and what he says he plans to do as President - which includes getting the border under control, pursuing across the board tax reductions, reducing wasteful government spending, removing America from as many foreign wars as possible, and removing the obstacles to rapid improvement of the American economy. What have his alleged misdeeds to do with any of that? Nothing, in my opinion.

Politicians inevitably are not nice people. They are almost all insufferable narcissists. The best you can hope for is that what they actually DO improves some aspect of life for citizens.
 
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