Undergrounding the GE would take 20 years of disruption and chaos. Not even close to worth it.
Ford passed the legislation for ripping up the bike lanes TODAY!!
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Why would I not walk a mile or so to court? It's 20 minutes.
It's usually faster than the shitty TTC service you're so proud of.
And I - and a hundred thousand other people - need to drive to job gigs in the suburbs. Why do you have trouble comprehending and accepting this?
And these bike lanes that torment you .... are they in the room with you now?
Really. You don't think so. I know it would be difficult but I think in the end it would be worth. Yet this is North American bureaucracy which is nothing more than a shit show. If it were in Europe or Asia it would be done with very little issues. Its' been talked about since Mel Lastman was mayor.
Boston's attempt to do the same thing led to decades of chaos and disruption...
Big Dig - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
The Big Dig was the most expensive highway project in the United States, and was plagued by cost overruns, delays, leaks, design flaws, accusations of poor execution and use of substandard materials, criminal charges and arrests, and the death of one motorist.[2] The project was originally scheduled to be completed in 1998[3] at an estimated cost of $2.8 billion (US$7.4 billion adjusted for inflation as of 2020).[4] However, the project was completed in December 2007 at a cost of over $8.08 billion (in 1982 dollars, $21.5 billion adjusted for inflation), a cost overrun of about 190%.[4][5][6] As a result of a death, leaks, and other design flaws, the Parsons Brinckerhoff and Bechtel consortium agreed to pay $407 million in restitution and several smaller companies agreed to pay a combined sum of approximately $51 million.[7]
I agree they did it wrong. But the issue with the Gardiner is they would have to go deeper into bedrock because of the lake but it can be done. The estimated cost as of now would be $2 billion.Boston's attempt to do the same thing led to decades of chaos and disruption...
Big Dig - Wikipedia
The Big Dig was the most expensive highway project in the United States, and was plagued by cost overruns, delays, leaks, design flaws, accusations of poor execution and use of substandard materials, criminal charges and arrests, and the death of one motorist.[2] The project was originally scheduled to be completed in 1998[3] at an estimated cost of $2.8 billion (US$7.4 billion adjusted for inflation as of 2020).[4] However, the project was completed in December 2007 at a cost of over $8.08 billion (in 1982 dollars, $21.5 billion adjusted for inflation), a cost overrun of about 190%.[4][5][6] As a result of a death, leaks, and other design flaws, the Parsons Brinckerhoff and Bechtel consortium agreed to pay $407 million in restitution and several smaller companies agreed to pay a combined sum of approximately $51 million.[7]
$2 billion cost of burying Gardiner Expressway makes it a perennial pipe dream
Engineers and dreamers agree a tunnel might be the best option for the expressway, but paying for it remains a huge sticking point.
They would fuck it up beyond belief. Like the Metrolinx Crosstown which has now apparently been built, but isn't operative for unknown reasons.I agree they did it wrong. But the issue with the Gardiner is they would have to go deeper into bedrock because of the lake but it can be done. The estimated cost as of now would be $2 billion.
$2 billion cost of burying Gardiner Expressway makes it a perennial pipe dream
Engineers and dreamers agree a tunnel might be the best option for the expressway, but paying for it remains a huge sticking point.www.thestar.com
Of course they would because it's North America. Spain and China built something similar with no issues.
They didn't have DoFo running things, he's more interested in syphoning off public money then getting shit done.
It's hard to believe China didn't royally fuck it up. They probably just killed the officials responsible and then replaced them with more incompetent, corrupt cronies to fuck up the next project.
Spain is pretty incompetent too.
Transit and road projects will always be expensive. The problem in Toronto is that councillors use these as political tools and this causes a lot of waffling on getting anything done.
The years roll by and we are always behind. Meanwhile, they try and pretend they are dealing with congestion by urging people to take transit that doesn't exist, is not efficient, and ride bikes in February.
They would rather focus on important things like putting cats on leashes, and renaming parks and figuring out what the next cash grab will be to make up for their poor fiscal management.
The years roll by and we are always behind. Meanwhile, they try and pretend they are dealing with congestion by urging people to take transit that doesn't exist, is not efficient, and ride bikes in February.
They would rather focus on important things like putting cats on leashes, and renaming parks and figuring out what the next cash grab will be to make up for their poor fiscal management.
Doggie Boy never goes with the true facts, but comes up with his own statistic!!
Doug Ford says only 1.2% of Torontonians commute by bike. That's not true.
A City of Toronto survey showed 44 per cent bike to work, shop or visit friends
www.sudbury.com
Doug Ford says only 1.2% of Torontonians commute by bike. That's not true.
A City of Toronto survey showed 44 per cent bike to work, shop or visit friends
Doug Ford says only 1.2% of Torontonians commute by bike. That's not true.
A City of Toronto survey showed 44 per cent bike to work, shop or visit friends
www.sudbury.com
The number 44% is not even anywhere in this article. If I ever saw a number pulled out of an asshole it’s this lol.Doggie Boy never goes with the true facts, but comes up with his own statistic!!
Doug Ford says only 1.2% of Torontonians commute by bike. That's not true.
A City of Toronto survey showed 44 per cent bike to work, shop or visit friends
Doug Ford says only 1.2% of Torontonians commute by bike. That's not true.
A City of Toronto survey showed 44 per cent bike to work, shop or visit friends
(I do like bike lanes though. Feels European af.)
The better question is why does Sudbury care about Toronto biking statistics when they have bigger problems of their own?Doggie Boy never goes with the true facts, but comes up with his own statistic!!
Doug Ford says only 1.2% of Torontonians commute by bike. That's not true.
A City of Toronto survey showed 44 per cent bike to work, shop or visit friends
Doug Ford says only 1.2% of Torontonians commute by bike. That's not true.
A City of Toronto survey showed 44 per cent bike to work, shop or visit friends
Greater Sudbury’s violent crime severity index hits record high
At 137.9, Greater Sudbury’s violent crime severity index is the highest it has been since Statistics Canada began recording it in 1998, and is the third highest among 36 Canadian metropolitan areas listed in their latest report
https://www.sudbury.com/local-news/...crime-severity-index-hits-record-high-7370740
How to let people know you don't live in Toronto without actually saying itDoggie Boy never goes with the true facts, but comes up with his own statistic!!
Doug Ford says only 1.2% of Torontonians commute by bike. That's not true.
A City of Toronto survey showed 44 per cent bike to work, shop or visit friends
Doug Ford says only 1.2% of Torontonians commute by bike. That's not true.
A City of Toronto survey showed 44 per cent bike to work, shop or visit friends
If the claim is that 44% a few times a year use a bike... maybe, Well no, I doubt that many people even have access to a bike. Just look around at the bike lanes, then look at the sidewalks, the metro, and the cars.
Also in the winter that 44 would drop to near 0.
What has the bike lanes got to do with crime? That is a separate topic all together!!
