The GE was crumbling and needed to be fixed up or it would start collapsing. And city council suggested it should be torn down instead.
Ford passed the legislation for ripping up the bike lanes TODAY!!
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The City of Toronto's population, 2.8 million reisdents, is 60% less than you believe it to be.
The City Montreal is a major urbanized city of 1.8 residents with the greater Montreal area contains 4.4 million residents.
Calgary and Edmonton are not rural hamlets.
All these cities basically have the same type of environments, urbanization and suburbanization.
The difference is that drivers in Montreal, Calgary and Edmonton are not widdle, gurly men, prone to histrionics, bedwetting and diaper soiling like those in Toronto when encountering an insignificant bike lane off to side of road.
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Bullshit as usual.
You have never ridden a bike obviously, a tricycle yes, not a bike.
Your God given right of a congestion free or Sunday driver's excursion during am and pm weekday rush commuting hours is a rust bucket relic of time long, long past.The photos were taken on a Sunday afternoon.....
A suggestion by some on council, definitely not the majority, that it be torn down and replaced with an expanded lakeside boulevard and rapid transit was one of 3 proposals put forward.
Options, varying proposals and plans being put forward for the rigors of professional examination and subsequent reports thereof being made available to decision makes is the hallmark of good governance.
Suggestions, varying proposals and plans that were tabled, voted on and enacted by city of Toronto council and not Doug Fraud.
You can't understand city of Toronto council and city of Toronto issues if you are always cocooned in a casket of metal, glass, plastic and rubber while squealing like a stuck pig alongside thousands of other single casket occupants on the paved tar pits of the Gardiner, DVP, arterial, secondary roads.
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That's just a lame excuse. If you build it they will come. Plus there are E-bikes that can get your lazy ass up the hill.
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The fact that ANYONE suggested that a major artery be torn down is astonishing in its idiocy.
Bet you supported the Gardiner being destroyed. Just your sort of exploit!
Nah. I live in Little Portugal and usually walk to court at University and Dundas. I enjoy the scenery as I walk past......
I just have a few IQ points that tell me that the cars aren't going away - because 90% of the GTA is suburbs with shitty transit links.
Nah. GTA's about 7 million. You include Peel, York Region and Durham. That's where the cars live.
Compared to Toronto, they're quite small.
Your 'commuting folktale yarns from hell' keep changing as often as Trump has his soiled diapers changed.
First it was all, "Oh they made my commute south to the Gardiner a living hell because they put a bike lane on Palmerston or Augusta or whatever the fuck that street it was. So now my work commute to York Region Court in Newmarket is even more fucked up than it always has been! Woe is me."
Then it was, "I take the streetcar to the new monster courthouse on University Ave and it's all fucked up because of bike lanes."
Then it became, "The bike lanes are making my College St., streetcar commute to work/buy milk/get my shoes cobbled a visage out of Dante's inferno!"
To now, your quoted gem above about walking, joyously walking and skipping to work stopping to sing hello, hello, hello to all the little birdies, chipmunks and puppy dogs along the way.
You walking? Hah, that's rich!
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Warm weather will come? Also, anyone can take small streets and bike lanes are not even necessary. Just allow bikes going against the traffic on all one way streets (or even turn a blind eye as they pretty much already do now) and it’ll be safer than a damn bike lane with its zooming couriers and slow ass families with kids and all kinds of rookies
Toronto police cracking down on unsafe e-bike operators
The Toronto Police Service says it is cracking down on unsafe operators of e-bikes, e-scooters and other small electric vehicles.
toronto.citynews.ca
Seriously. Since when did you become a conservative with common sense. As for the Gardiner. I support it being underground as some in the past have suggested.
Undergrounding the GE would take 20 years of disruption and chaos. Not even close to worth it.
Why would I not walk a mile or so to court? It's 20 minutes.
It's usually faster than the shitty TTC service you're so proud of.
And I - and a hundred thousand other people - need to drive to job gigs in the suburbs. Why do you have trouble comprehending and accepting this?
And these bike lanes that torment you .... are they in the room with you now?
Really. You don't think so. I know it would be difficult but I think in the end it would be worth. Yet this is North American bureaucracy which is nothing more than a shit show. If it were in Europe or Asia it would be done with very little issues. Its' been talked about since Mel Lastman was mayor.
Boston's attempt to do the same thing led to decades of chaos and disruption...
Big Dig - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
The Big Dig was the most expensive highway project in the United States, and was plagued by cost overruns, delays, leaks, design flaws, accusations of poor execution and use of substandard materials, criminal charges and arrests, and the death of one motorist.[2] The project was originally scheduled to be completed in 1998[3] at an estimated cost of $2.8 billion (US$7.4 billion adjusted for inflation as of 2020).[4] However, the project was completed in December 2007 at a cost of over $8.08 billion (in 1982 dollars, $21.5 billion adjusted for inflation), a cost overrun of about 190%.[4][5][6] As a result of a death, leaks, and other design flaws, the Parsons Brinckerhoff and Bechtel consortium agreed to pay $407 million in restitution and several smaller companies agreed to pay a combined sum of approximately $51 million.[7]
I agree they did it wrong. But the issue with the Gardiner is they would have to go deeper into bedrock because of the lake but it can be done. The estimated cost as of now would be $2 billion.Boston's attempt to do the same thing led to decades of chaos and disruption...
Big Dig - Wikipedia
The Big Dig was the most expensive highway project in the United States, and was plagued by cost overruns, delays, leaks, design flaws, accusations of poor execution and use of substandard materials, criminal charges and arrests, and the death of one motorist.[2] The project was originally scheduled to be completed in 1998[3] at an estimated cost of $2.8 billion (US$7.4 billion adjusted for inflation as of 2020).[4] However, the project was completed in December 2007 at a cost of over $8.08 billion (in 1982 dollars, $21.5 billion adjusted for inflation), a cost overrun of about 190%.[4][5][6] As a result of a death, leaks, and other design flaws, the Parsons Brinckerhoff and Bechtel consortium agreed to pay $407 million in restitution and several smaller companies agreed to pay a combined sum of approximately $51 million.[7]
$2 billion cost of burying Gardiner Expressway makes it a perennial pipe dream
Engineers and dreamers agree a tunnel might be the best option for the expressway, but paying for it remains a huge sticking point.
They would fuck it up beyond belief. Like the Metrolinx Crosstown which has now apparently been built, but isn't operative for unknown reasons.I agree they did it wrong. But the issue with the Gardiner is they would have to go deeper into bedrock because of the lake but it can be done. The estimated cost as of now would be $2 billion.
$2 billion cost of burying Gardiner Expressway makes it a perennial pipe dream
Engineers and dreamers agree a tunnel might be the best option for the expressway, but paying for it remains a huge sticking point.www.thestar.com
