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richaceg

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The entire rhetoric he used, obviously, but also his weaponization of the DOJ to go after his political enemies.
So you're saying Biden/Kamala is mirroring Trump for going after him and "weaponizing the DOJ"? crying "Fascism" and "He's hitler" is a little bit overreaching and overreacting... this is more like a scare tactic to not vote for him...I'm not sure if it will work...but definitely out of desperation because of his surging numbers...the dems went from "Trump is a misogynist and racist to Fascist and hitler" it went overdrive....
 

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So you're saying Biden/Kamala is mirroring Trump for going after him and "weaponizing the DOJ"?
No.
Not at all.

crying "Fascism" and "He's hitler" is a little bit overreaching and overreacting...
If anything it has been an under-reaction.

this is more like a scare tactic to not vote for him...I'm not sure if it will work...but definitely out of desperation because of his surging numbers...the dems went from "Trump is a misogynist and racist to Fascist and hitler" it went overdrive....
The fact a lot of the American electorate either wants autocratic rule or is burying their head in the sand is a tragedy.
But it is what it is.
 
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richaceg

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No.
Not at all.



If anything it has been an under-reaction.



The fact a lot of the American electorate either wants autocratic rule or is burying their head in the sand is a tragedy.
But it is what it is.
So for Americans to vote for Trump, Majority want's autocratic now? it's autocratic to vote for safer and stricter borders? it's autocratic to want better economy? because that''s what Trump voters sentiment are, i'm not saying his MAGA base but those who are leaning towards Trump for policy...I do understand that there are "just not Trump" and "just not Kamala" voters out there...
 

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His staff quoting Trump. Kelly quoting Trump. They're quoting him saying those things.
Weapons?!?!? Beating cops with hockey sticks? Fire extinguishers? Zip ties? Flagpoles? Bear spray? Testimony from his aides saying trump saying get rid of the magnotometers so his people could get in, and saying "they're not here to hurt me". This is all public record. "Get rid of the fucking mags" his assistent testified under oath saying Trump said this.
Attitude is not a substitute to fact BTW.
"quoting" is hearsay.

Hockey sticks??? Ooooooooh what a viciously armed "insurrection" mob indeed! Lol!

Just watch the recently released footage of Nancy Pelosi and what she was saying leading up to, during and after Jan 6th and relish in her admittance that security was her failure.

btw Trump was acquitted. I know that bothers you. It would bother me too if I just hated someone and the narrative gets broken.
 
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Am not saying communism is good or bad.
Am only saying communism and democracy are not incompatible.
You mean Putin has remained in power based on a democratic process? Lol!

Or how "democratic" does Xi Jinping seem to you? Here's a sample of their version of democracy being "compatible" with Communism...

A law enacted in 2013 authorized a three-year prison term for bloggers who shared more than 500 times any content considered "defamatory. The State Internet Information Department summoned influential bloggers to a seminar to instruct them to avoid writing about politics, the CCP, or making statements contradicting official narratives. Many bloggers stopped writing about controversial topics, and Weibo went into decline, with much of its readership shifting to WeChat users speaking to limited social circles. In 2017, telecommunications carriers were instructed to block individuals' use of Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) by February 2018.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xi_Jinping



Kinda reminds me of how Harris wanted to censor Trump's Twitter account...no?
 

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"quoting" is hearsay.

Hockey sticks??? Ooooooooh what a viciously armed "insurrection" mob indeed! Lol!

Just watch the recently released footage of Nancy Pelosi and what she was saying leading up to, during and after Jan 6th and relish in her admittance that security was her failure.

btw Trump was acquitted. I know that bothers you. It would bother me too if I just hated someone and the narrative gets broken.
Quoting someone is not hearsay. It's hearsay to a third party. General Kelly could testify under oath what he heard trump say and have his testimony admitted because he heard it from Trump. If Kelly heard what trump said it from Meadows, but not trump directly, that's heasay. Gotta bone up on the law here.
You ignored the other testimony about weapons. 140 cops had to get medical attention. One had a heart attack from being zapped with a stun gun (not a weapon?). So not weapony-enough for you? Those 140 cops all fakers?
Pelosi cannot call up the national guard. That story trump pushes that the speaker of the house is responsible is a lie. She has no power to call up the national guard. So why did Trump, who watched on TV, do nothing? He certainly violated his oath. And, McConnell said the courts will try him. Impeachment is political not legal. After all, your friends sit on the jury.
Anyhow, let's be accurate.
 

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So for Americans to vote for Trump, Majority want's autocratic now? it's autocratic to vote for safer and stricter borders? it's autocratic to want better economy? because that''s what Trump voters sentiment are, i'm not saying his MAGA base but those who are leaning towards Trump for policy...I do understand that there are "just not Trump" and "just not Kamala" voters out there...
No.
Even if he won the popular vote (much less likely than him winning the election since the US electoral system is so terribly designed) I wouldn't assume that everyone specifically voted for autocracy.
I'd put that group at maybe 25-35% of the electorate.
Like I said, lots of people are putting their heads in the sand and thinking he isn't serious or that he's too incompetent to do those parts.
It's a problem. It would be much better if they took him seriously.

But almost half the US electorate is in favor of concentration camps.
That's not just Republicans.
There are LOTS of people who are fine with lots of very worrying government behavior.

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Quoting someone is not hearsay. It's hearsay to a third party. General Kelly could testify under oath what he heard trump say and have his testimony admitted because he heard it from Trump. If Kelly heard what trump said it from Meadows, but not trump directly, that's heasay. Gotta bone up on the law here.
You ignored the other testimony about weapons. 140 cops had to get medical attention. One had a heart attack from being zapped with a stun gun (not a weapon?). So not weapony-enough for you? Those 140 cops all fakers?
Pelosi cannot call up the national guard. That story trump pushes that the speaker of the house is responsible is a lie. She has no power to call up the national guard. So why did Trump, who watched on TV, do nothing? He certainly violated his oath. And, McConnell said the courts will try him. Impeachment is political not legal. After all, your friends sit on the jury.
Anyhow, let's be accurate.
A quote is not proof of anything whether you consider it hearsay or not. Maybe someone misunderstood. Maybe someone has an axe to grind. Is that the hill of proof you are willing to die on?

Trump did issue a call for peace...did you conveniently forget about that?

Ah right, just dismiss the acquittal and look forward to the next witch hunt.
 

richaceg

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No.
Even if he won the popular vote (much less likely than him winning the election since the US electoral system is so terribly designed) I wouldn't assume that everyone specifically voted for autocracy.
I'd put that group at maybe 25-35% of the electorate.
Like I said, lots of people are putting their heads in the sand and thinking he isn't serious or that he's too incompetent to do those parts.
It's a problem. It would be much better if they took him seriously.

But almost half the US electorate is in favor of concentration camps.
That's not just Republicans.
There are LOTS of people who are fine with lots of very worrying government behavior.

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Well you can't have undocumented immigrants running around the country. "militarized camps" sure, but concentration camp? really? you make it sound like these illegals will be treated like how Nazis did in Auschwitz...I'd say it's leaning more like they will be housed in a building where they can't go freely roam around the country, probably fed, and sent back to where they came from. Or you really leaning towards concentration camps still?
 
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Well you can't have undocumented immigrants running around the country. "militarized camps" sure, but concentration camp? really? you make it sound like these illegals will be treated like how Nazis did in Auschwitz...
Yes, really.
Concentration camps is the proper term here.
That term isn't restricted to death camps like Auschwitz (and probably shouldn't be used for death camps like Auschwitz, in my opinion).

I'd say it's leaning more like they will be housed in a building where they can't go freely roam around the country, probably fed, and sent back to where they came from. Or you really leaning towards concentration camps still?
Yes.
The proper term here would be a concentration camp or an internment camp.
 
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You mean Putin has remained in power based on a democratic process? Lol!

Or how "democratic" does Xi Jinping seem to you? Here's a sample of their version of democracy being "compatible" with Communism...

A law enacted in 2013 authorized a three-year prison term for bloggers who shared more than 500 times any content considered "defamatory. The State Internet Information Department summoned influential bloggers to a seminar to instruct them to avoid writing about politics, the CCP, or making statements contradicting official narratives. Many bloggers stopped writing about controversial topics, and Weibo went into decline, with much of its readership shifting to WeChat users speaking to limited social circles. In 2017, telecommunications carriers were instructed to block individuals' use of Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) by February 2018.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xi_Jinping



Kinda reminds me of how Harris wanted to censor Trump's Twitter account...no?
All am saying is that there are many examples of communist parties within democracies.
Including in Canada.
They are not incompatible.
 
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Frankfooter

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Yes, really.
Concentration camps is the proper term here.
That term isn't restricted to death camps like Auschwitz (and probably shouldn't be used for death camps like Auschwitz, in my opinion).



Yes.
The proper term here would be a concentration camp or an internment camp.
Wait, so now concentration camps are an election issue?
 

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Opposite, right wingers aren't trustworthy or honourable so why make a bet they won't honour?
You're a joke.

Basketcase is a leftie and you run away and hide when he's challenged you to a bet, giving you an opportunity to back up a claim of yours. This has happened numerous times. You have no conviction.

Leftie or rightie makes no difference to you. You run away from every challenge and the reason is that all of your claims are based on lies. When push comes to shove all you can do is slink back into the shadows because you cannot back up your claims. It has nothing to do with political leanings.

You are the one that is dishonourable.
 

Frankfooter

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You're a joke.

Basketcase is a leftie and you run away and hide when he's challenged you to a bet, giving you an opportunity to back up a claim of yours. This has happened numerous times. You have no conviction.

Leftie or rightie makes no difference to you. You run away from every challenge and the reason is that all of your claims are based on lies. When push comes to shove all you can do is slink back into the shadows because you cannot back up your claims. It has nothing to do with political leanings.

You are the one that is dishonourable.
I'm right here, Shazi.

I back up everything I say, you just call everything a lie, no matter where it comes from.
As far as holocaust deniers go, you are particularly lame.

 
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