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richaceg

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What you said was they started as socialist and became communist. And...[checking notes]....did any of these countries go from socialism to communism....or just directly to communism? The answer is....no. Directly into communism.

As for socialist countries....we can look at the Nordic countries like Sweden. They have freedoms. They have a strong economy. They are not failed states. Are they going to become communist? Nope, not gonna happen..
Stating socialism could lead to communism. Is much more a possibility than saying Trump is fascist or Hitler...you liberals are grasping at straws that isn't even there....
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Neither are comedians that are making jokes. But you pick/choose which jokes are offensive based on which side is making them?
Nobody complained about Hinchcliffe's stand up specials.
Maybe because nobody watched them.
 

kherg007

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I think you're mistaking fascism with communism.

You consider looters and people who set things on fire at the risk of innocent people to be "protesters"?

Fact is we have a former president that never did anything to damage democracy during his term, running against a VP who has done everything to damage democracy including how she became the person running for President.
Wow. You're hallucinating my opinions on looters. You're not responding to the query.

Trump tried to illegally overturn an election. He admitted he lost, but still lied about it and precipitated actions to change the vote. His voice is recorded. He cooked up an illegal scheme to stop the certification. We watched it happen. We watched him say fight like hell or you wont have a country anymore. Then sit back and allow it to happen. He said he loved those people who beat cops. These people all sentenced to gaol. He stole national security docs. Congress allocates money and he ignored it and moved money for the wall. He refused to provide emergency aid to states that didn't vote for him. He had to be tricked into it. This is all documented in first hand accounts.

Kamala did nothing to damage democracy. The Democratic party allocated the votes for her as part of the Biden ticket to her as top of the ticket. That was more problematic, but given she was on the ticket people voted for she could access the $. I wish they did a tournament type my own self. She's not my first choice.
But Trump has a long record of fraud, going back to before he ran. And all the people around him are felons.
 

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Wow. You're hallucinating my opinions on looters. You're not responding to the query.

Trump tried to illegally overturn an election. He admitted he lost, but still lied about it and precipitated actions to change the vote. His voice is recorded. He cooked up an illegal scheme to stop the certification. We watched it happen. We watched him say fight like hell or you wont have a country anymore. Then sit back and allow it to happen. He said he loved those people who beat cops. These people all sentenced to gaol. He stole national security docs. Congress allocates money and he ignored it and moved money for the wall. He refused to provide emergency aid to states that didn't vote for him. He had to be tricked into it. This is all documented in first hand accounts.

Kamala did nothing to damage democracy. The Democratic party allocated the votes for her as part of the Biden ticket to her as top of the ticket. That was more problematic, but given she was on the ticket people voted for she could access the $. I wish they did a tournament type my own self. She's not my first choice.
But Trump has a long record of fraud, going back to before he ran. And all the people around him are felons.
And millions of people know this and more about Trump and they don’t give a shit IMG_1595.jpeg
 
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dirtydaveiii

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Facts don't matter to trunptards
Wow. You're hallucinating my opinions on looters. You're not responding to the query.

Trump tried to illegally overturn an election. He admitted he lost, but still lied about it and precipitated actions to change the vote. His voice is recorded. He cooked up an illegal scheme to stop the certification. We watched it happen. We watched him say fight like hell or you wont have a country anymore. Then sit back and allow it to happen. He said he loved those people who beat cops. These people all sentenced to gaol. He stole national security docs. Congress allocates money and he ignored it and moved money for the wall. He refused to provide emergency aid to states that didn't vote for him. He had to be tricked into it. This is all documented in first hand accounts.

Kamala did nothing to damage democracy. The Democratic party allocated the votes for her as part of the Biden ticket to her as top of the ticket. That was more problematic, but given she was on the ticket people voted for she could access the $. I wish they did a tournament type my own self. She's not my first choice.
But Trump has a long record of fraud, going back to before he ran. And all the people around him are felons.
 
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Stating socialism could lead to communism. Is much more a possibility than saying Trump is fascist or Hitler...you liberals are grasping at straws that isn't even there....
Trump has not stated that "Socialism could lead to Communism". He has called Kamala Harris a Communist and a Marxist!! So an idiot like that is allowed to throw such blatantly false allegations, and then you claim that the Liberals are grasping at straws when Trump praised this individual:

‘I NEED THE KIND OF GENERALS THAT HITLER HAD’
Trump’s vow to only be a dictator on ‘day one’


When even his former Chief of Staff alleges this:

Trump told him Hitler 'did some good things'

Trump meets the definition of a fascist and "prefers the dictator approach to government,"


I will go by what a Former Chief of Staff fully disclosed versus your version. No it is the conservatives who in their heart of hearts know that they have to defend this moron's rambling nonsense that has crossed the line out of real Democracy into the Autocratic Far Right Fascist / Neo-Nazi Ideology!!

So, the conclusion is that Trump has the full criteria of being a Fascist or an Intended American version of Hitler. Cannot mince his words, as it speaks volumes of his mindset!!
 

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Trump has not stated that "Socialism could lead to Communism". He has called Kamala Harris a Communist and a Marxist!! So an idiot like that is allowed to throw such blatantly false allegations, and then you claim that the Liberals are grasping at straws when Trump praised this individual:

‘I NEED THE KIND OF GENERALS THAT HITLER HAD’
Trump’s vow to only be a dictator on ‘day one’


When even his former Chief of Staff alleges this:

Trump told him Hitler 'did some good things'

Trump meets the definition of a fascist and "prefers the dictator approach to government,"


I will go by what a Former Chief of Staff fully disclosed versus your version. No it is the conservatives who in their heart of hearts know that they have to defend this moron's rambling nonsense that has crossed the line out of real Democracy into the Autocratic Far Right Fascist / Neo-Nazi Ideology!!

So, the conclusion is that Trump has the full criteria of being a Fascist or an Intended American version of Hitler. Cannot mince his words, as it speaks volumes of his mindset!!
Don't forget this one, Musk says rump will crash the economy as soon as he's elected.
 
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Skoob

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Wow. You're hallucinating my opinions on looters. You're not responding to the query.

Trump tried to illegally overturn an election. He admitted he lost, but still lied about it and precipitated actions to change the vote. His voice is recorded. He cooked up an illegal scheme to stop the certification. We watched it happen. We watched him say fight like hell or you wont have a country anymore. Then sit back and allow it to happen. He said he loved those people who beat cops. These people all sentenced to gaol. He stole national security docs. Congress allocates money and he ignored it and moved money for the wall. He refused to provide emergency aid to states that didn't vote for him. He had to be tricked into it. This is all documented in first hand accounts.

Kamala did nothing to damage democracy. The Democratic party allocated the votes for her as part of the Biden ticket to her as top of the ticket. That was more problematic, but given she was on the ticket people voted for she could access the $. I wish they did a tournament type my own self. She's not my first choice.
But Trump has a long record of fraud, going back to before he ran. And all the people around him are felons.
You said "he asked the military to shoot protesters"...yet he made a remark about people looting not protesting. i.e. looters. He said "if the looting starts the shooting starts". But you somehow attempt to paint a different narrative.

That in itself is proof of how the left twists reality to suit their narrative which is why people are seeing through the bs and still support someone who calls out their bullshit.

The classified documents case was dismissed. More bs narrative twisting.

If you claim to be intelligent and choose to ignore the fact that Biden was pushed aside undemocratically and replaced with Harris I can't really help you here.
 
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silentkisser

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It's funny because you're almost getting the point and I'm slowly guiding you towards it...

Here's another breadcrumb for you to follow towards enlightenment...

Did any of those Communist parties that took power promise the end result would be dictatorships?

All of the right-wing parties that took power promised dictatorships.

(I can smell the gears of enlightenment turning in your head...)
I think you might be missing the point here as well. NOBODY asked for these dictatorships. Do you think the majority of people were consulted and gave their consent? And none of them dressed themselves up as a choice.

So, to bring it all back to today, there is no policy of Harris's or the Democrats that are remotely communist. They might lean a little socialist, but that doesn't mean communist. But nuance has not been the right's friend. So, they blather on about how medicare for all is socialism or proves someone is a marxist. Which...just proves they have no idea what those words mean. And....from the bullshit you're trying to push above, you don't really seem to have these concepts down to well either..
 

silentkisser

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There are many examples.
Nepal has elected communist governments before.
There are many democracies where communist political parties exist and contest.
Even we have one.
Dude, there are communist parties in nearly every democratic nation. Nepal and a few other places re-elected communists....but in nearly every instance of a communist government, it was seized by power.

But, let's face facts: on paper, communism sounds wonderful. Everyone gets all they need. Reality is different.

Now, let's look at the US's capitalist society...they have a thin social safety net, but there are massive gaps that people fall through. There is a growing wealth inequity, where billionaires and corporations are able to minimize their tax burden....which grows on the working or middle class. HOWEVER....there is some socialism. I keep seeing subsidies to corporations to build plants or drill & refine oil. When there are economic headwinds, the government has no problem bailing out bankers who made risky bets. That is the definition of socialism. So, why shouldn't citizens enjoy the same as faceless corporations?

But....again, the strawman argument that Harris and the Democrats are marxist just shows the ignorance of those people who foolishly use words they don't understand.
 

silentkisser

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Stating socialism could lead to communism. Is much more a possibility than saying Trump is fascist or Hitler...you liberals are grasping at straws that isn't even there....
Right. Sure. I see Sweden, Norway, Canada, the UK, France and Germany all have socialist governments and policies. Are they all becoming Communist?

And, let's not pretend that Trump isn't trying to install himself as a fascist or wannabe dictator. He basically says it fairly frequently in his speeches...
 

richaceg

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Right. Sure. I see Sweden, Norway, Canada, the UK, France and Germany all have socialist governments and policies. Are they all becoming Communist?

And, let's not pretend that Trump isn't trying to install himself as a fascist or wannabe dictator. He basically says it fairly frequently in his speeches...
Was he a "fascist" his first term? Looks like Fascism when you inject a candidate without going to the primaries....weaponize the DOJ going after the toughest political opponent - Something Putin did, Kim Jong did...LOL....Let's face it... Trump's administration didn't suppress the mainstream media that alone tells you he's not fascist...he didn't go after his opponents, freedom of speech were not violated...so yeah...the dems are exercising everything they accuse Trump with...
 

silentkisser

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Was he a "fascist" his first term? Looks like Fascism when you inject a candidate without going to the primaries....weaponize the DOJ going after the toughest political opponent - Something Putin did, Kim Jong did...LOL....Let's face it... Trump's administration didn't suppress the mainstream media that alone tells you he's not fascist...he didn't go after his opponents, freedom of speech were not violated...so yeah...the dems are exercising everything they accuse Trump with...
OK, since you are detached from reality, I'm not sure if there is any point in bringing a factual rebuttal here. Regurgitating Trump's talking points are not a good strategy, since we all know he is full of shit. And, let's not forget, he's openly talking about punishing late night comics because they were mean to him....That doesn't sound like someone who respects or defends the first amendment. In fact, he sounds like a wannabe dictator who will punish those who don't kiss his ass.
 
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