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Butler1000

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Is that why you consider all Palestinians as Hamas and all Muslims as terrorists?
Do you agree with these statements from other members?
Well yes. That will be the inevitable result. I figure the West Bank has about 20 more years tops. Gaza longer. Golan Heights will be fully annexed after the West Bank.

As I've said. When you have two opponents who will not negotiate peace, with this much hate between both, there is only going to be a winner and a loser. Add on that the rest of the Sunni Muslims in the region hate their guts too for various reasons and their Shia Allies only consider them sacrificial pawns, and the West Govt have clearly allied with Israel, and really that is the end result.

It's not racist, or Islamophobia to state this. It's just using history and cold hard logic to show what is going on. A full year, and not one govt has stepped in with real military aid. Rocket fire isn't going to cut it. It's window dressing. UN statements are nice but useless.

Your bleating, along with others, about international courts, BDS and other whimsical notions of so called international condemnation is really just wind piss.
 

Frankfooter

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Well yes. That will be the inevitable result. I figure the West Bank has about 20 more years tops. Gaza longer. Golan Heights will be fully annexed after the West Bank.

As I've said. When you have two opponents who will not negotiate peace, with this much hate between both, there is only going to be a winner and a loser. Add on that the rest of the Sunni Muslims in the region hate their guts too for various reasons and their Shia Allies only consider them sacrificial pawns, and the West Govt have clearly allied with Israel, and really that is the end result.

It's not racist, or Islamophobia to state this. It's just using history and cold hard logic to show what is going on. A full year, and not one govt has stepped in with real military aid. Rocket fire isn't going to cut it. It's window dressing. UN statements are nice but useless.

Your bleating, along with others, about international courts, BDS and other whimsical notions of so called international condemnation is really just wind piss.
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Klatuu

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Well yes. That will be the inevitable result. I figure the West Bank has about 20 more years tops. Gaza longer. Golan Heights will be fully annexed after the West Bank.

As I've said. When you have two opponents who will not negotiate peace, with this much hate between both, there is only going to be a winner and a loser. Add on that the rest of the Sunni Muslims in the region hate their guts too for various reasons and their Shia Allies only consider them sacrificial pawns, and the West Govt have clearly allied with Israel, and really that is the end result.

It's not racist, or Islamophobia to state this. It's just using history and cold hard logic to show what is going on. A full year, and not one govt has stepped in with real military aid. Rocket fire isn't going to cut it. It's window dressing. UN statements are nice but useless.

Your bleating, along with others, about international courts, BDS and other whimsical notions of so called international condemnation is really just wind piss.
Cult fiction
 

Leimonis

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Well yes. That will be the inevitable result. I figure the West Bank has about 20 more years tops. Gaza longer. Golan Heights will be fully annexed after the West Bank.

As I've said. When you have two opponents who will not negotiate peace, with this much hate between both, there is only going to be a winner and a loser. Add on that the rest of the Sunni Muslims in the region hate their guts too for various reasons and their Shia Allies only consider them sacrificial pawns, and the West Govt have clearly allied with Israel, and really that is the end result.

It's not racist, or Islamophobia to state this. It's just using history and cold hard logic to show what is going on. A full year, and not one govt has stepped in with real military aid. Rocket fire isn't going to cut it. It's window dressing. UN statements are nice but useless.

Your bleating, along with others, about international courts, BDS and other whimsical notions of so called international condemnation is really just wind piss.
Hmm but how do you see annexation of West Bank or gaza? Where would local people go? I doubt it’s anywhere near as cut and dry or that easy.
Same with “free Palestine” - where would local people go? ( also wonder what would purple hair gen Z and all the other bleeding heart useful idiots say when palis would start slaughtering evil Juice? That it’s understandable and probably their fault for being settlers? I bet they’d find an excuse)

Iran, US, Russia, Saudi - no one is going anywhere.
It seems a lot more realistic that the conflict will continue and would never stop and all who are in power are benefiting from having a permanent enemy.
 
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Butler1000

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Hmm but how do you see annexation of West Bank or gaza? Where would local people go? I doubt it’s anywhere near as cut and dry or that easy.
Same with “free Palestine” - where would local people go? ( also wonder what would purple hair gen Z and all the other bleeding heart useful idiots say when palis would start slaughtering evil Juice? That it’s understandable and probably their fault for being settlers? I bet they’d find an excuse)

Iran, US, Russia, Saudi - no one is going anywhere.
It seems a lot more realistic that the conflict will continue and would never stop and all who are in power are benefiting from having a permanent enemy.
In the case of the West Bank locals will either assimilate with Israeli citizenship, move to Gaza or move out, whether to Lebanon, West Africa, or a Western Nation where they have an in via family. Frankie is always posting his little maps showing the shrinking of it. Every year more settlers move in. It's why Israel cuts the Orthodox Jews so much slack. They have big families to draw on.

Once that area is completed the next will be Gaza. A lot will depend on the outcome of this war but I see a new security line at least maybe 5-10 Miles deep into Northern Gaza annexed by Israel at the least. In the long run? Man too many players and variables but you could end up with a scenario similar with what happened to the Tamil Tigers.

They are pawns being used to try to keep the West from getting full deals with Sunni Muslim Govts. The Palestinians have systematically lost allies due to their Shia terror ties and support of attempts at coups on Jordan and Egypt, and the invasion of Kuwaut. Nobody in the region wants them now, nor want to help them. They are playing the neutral game for now and letting Israel do their thing to placate the Arab in the Street.

But this is really just a stop. The larger fish is Iran. Both the West and Sunnis want it gone. They need to isolate them. Hence letting the Palestinians lose, Lebanon lose, Syria lose. It's what Afghanistan was partially about as well.

With the final game being Russia and it's resources.
 

Frankfooter

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Hmm but how do you see annexation of West Bank or gaza? Where would local people go? I doubt it’s anywhere near as cut and dry or that easy.
Same with “free Palestine” - where would local people go? ( also wonder what would purple hair gen Z and all the other bleeding heart useful idiots say when palis would start slaughtering evil Juice? That it’s understandable and probably their fault for being settlers? I bet they’d find an excuse)

Iran, US, Russia, Saudi - no one is going anywhere.
It seems a lot more realistic that the conflict will continue and would never stop and all who are in power are benefiting from having a permanent enemy.
Then back the UN and ICJ demand for a two state solution.
But zionists won't even agree to this even if it means Palestinians only get 22% of their land.

 

Frankfooter

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In the case of the West Bank locals will either assimilate with Israeli citizenship, move to Gaza or move out, whether to Lebanon, West Africa, or a Western Nation where they have an in via family. Frankie is always posting his little maps showing the shrinking of it. Every year more settlers move in. It's why Israel cuts the Orthodox Jews so much slack. They have big families to draw on.

Once that area is completed the next will be Gaza. A lot will depend on the outcome of this war but I see a new security line at least maybe 5-10 Miles deep into Northern Gaza annexed by Israel at the least. In the long run? Man too many players and variables but you could end up with a scenario similar with what happened to the Tamil Tigers.

They are pawns being used to try to keep the West from getting full deals with Sunni Muslim Govts. The Palestinians have systematically lost allies due to their Shia terror ties and support of attempts at coups on Jordan and Egypt, and the invasion of Kuwaut. Nobody in the region wants them now, nor want to help them. They are playing the neutral game for now and letting Israel do their thing to placate the Arab in the Street.

But this is really just a stop. The larger fish is Iran. Both the West and Sunnis want it gone. They need to isolate them. Hence letting the Palestinians lose, Lebanon lose, Syria lose. It's what Afghanistan was partially about as well.

With the final game being Russia and it's resources.
If you assimilate you face the demographic problem.
Palestinians outnumber Jews and if you give them the vote....

Its Israel's biggest fear.
 

versitile1

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Well yes. That will be the inevitable result. I figure the West Bank has about 20 more years tops. Gaza longer. Golan Heights will be fully annexed after the West Bank.

As I've said. When you have two opponents who will not negotiate peace, with this much hate between both, there is only going to be a winner and a loser. Add on that the rest of the Sunni Muslims in the region hate their guts too for various reasons and their Shia Allies only consider them sacrificial pawns, and the West Govt have clearly allied with Israel, and really that is the end result.

It's not racist, or Islamophobia to state this. It's just using history and cold hard logic to show what is going on. A full year, and not one govt has stepped in with real military aid. Rocket fire isn't going to cut it. It's window dressing. UN statements are nice but useless.

Your bleating, along with others, about international courts, BDS and other whimsical notions of so called international condemnation is really just wind piss.
Everyone already knows how you feel, butthead. My question was for Mandy. Unless, of course, that's just one of your other accounts.
 

Butler1000

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Everyone already knows how you feel, butthead. My question was for Mandy. Unless, of course, that's just one of your other accounts.
Lol. It's a free country, and a free site. If you post expect to get a rebuttal, especially if you continue to quote me. I get a notification. So quoting me out of context will always result in my rewriting the proper context.

Best part is you can't seem to refute it with logic, so have to go with an insult. Maybe you are smart enough to see the writing on the wall, but just can't bring yourself to admit the truth. Or maybe you think by repeating the lies you can change the reality of global politics and bad decisions of the Palestinians.

Either way I do continue to enjoy the fact I'm in your sig. It means you consider my posts to be that important.
 
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Klatuu

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In the case of the West Bank locals will either assimilate with Israeli citizenship, move to Gaza or move out, whether to Lebanon, West Africa, or a Western Nation where they have an in via family. Frankie is always posting his little maps showing the shrinking of it. Every year more settlers move in. It's why Israel cuts the Orthodox Jews so much slack. They have big families to draw on.

Once that area is completed the next will be Gaza. A lot will depend on the outcome of this war but I see a new security line at least maybe 5-10 Miles deep into Northern Gaza annexed by Israel at the least. In the long run? Man too many players and variables but you could end up with a scenario similar with what happened to the Tamil Tigers.

They are pawns being used to try to keep the West from getting full deals with Sunni Muslim Govts. The Palestinians have systematically lost allies due to their Shia terror ties and support of attempts at coups on Jordan and Egypt, and the invasion of Kuwaut. Nobody in the region wants them now, nor want to help them. They are playing the neutral game for now and letting Israel do their thing to placate the Arab in the Street.

But this is really just a stop. The larger fish is Iran. Both the West and Sunnis want it gone. They need to isolate them. Hence letting the Palestinians lose, Lebanon lose, Syria lose. It's what Afghanistan was partially about as well.

With the final game being Russia and it's resources.
Fanboi fantasy
 

Leimonis

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Then back the UN and ICJ demand for a two state solution.
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you do realize that as a practical reality, the two states solution would allow palis to freely import weapons into their new country. With the current level of radicalization wouldn’t it be crazy for Israel to hope that this scenario is safe for them?
 

Klatuu

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you do realize that as a practical reality, the two states solution would allow palis to freely import weapons into their new country. With the current level of radicalization wouldn’t it be crazy for Israel to hope that this scenario is safe for them?
Every accusation by a Ziontologist is a confession
 
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versitile1

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Lol. It's a free country, and a free site. If you post expect to get a rebuttal, especially if you continue to quote me. I get a notification. So quoting me out of context will always result in my rewriting the proper context.

Best part is you can't seem to refute it with logic, so have to go with an insult. Maybe you are smart enough to see the writing on the wall, but just can't bring yourself to admit the truth. Or maybe you think by repeating the lies you can change the reality of global politics and bad decisions of the Palestinians.

Either way I do continue to enjoy the fact I'm in your sig. It means you consider my posts to be that important.
No, I didn't read what you wrote, butthead. I'm not interested because I already know where you stand. BTW, it's a free country and I can quote you if I want. You're free to turn off the notifications or better yet, block me. I quote you every time I post in my siggy, are you gonna reply to every single one of my posts now? Lol.
 

Frankfooter

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you do realize that as a practical reality, the two states solution would allow palis to freely import weapons into their new country. With the current level of radicalization wouldn’t it be crazy for Israel to hope that this scenario is safe for them?
Yes, the two state solution means that Palestine becomes a state with its own laws and ability to defend themselves.
You really prefer apartheid and genocide, don't you.

 

versitile1

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you do realize that as a practical reality, the two states solution would allow palis to freely import weapons into their new country. With the current level of radicalization wouldn’t it be crazy for Israel to hope that this scenario is safe for them?
If the Palestinians (not "palis" as you like to call them) had their own country, why would they have to fight for, you know, their own country? Don't bother answering, it'll probably short circuit that small, tiny mind of yours.
 
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