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Who won the great debate?

  • Harris

    Votes: 77 78.6%

  • Trump

    Votes: 9 9.2%

  • Both were bad with no winner

    Votes: 10 10.2%

  • Both were good with no winner

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Total voters
    98
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Frankfooter

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The Oracle said:
They let 12 million people in under their rule...12 million illegals...Let that sink in.

Here have read and educate yourself on the topic. The bill didn't do what the Republicans wanted it to do...It wasn't tough enough.

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'' But the conservatives are right about this bill. The Border Act would not stop the administration from continuing to create questionable parole programs to admit migrants who don’t have visas or other valid entry documents. It would not end catch and release. It would not stop migrants from using meritless asylum claims to enter and remain in the United States indefinitely. ''
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Your article says 2 million a year got in, where is your 12 million number from?
How many were deported?

Is this disinformation?
 
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Skoob

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shack said:
Yes. First they say they welcome the help. Thennn they collude. It's a sequence of improprieties.
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Except the 2nd part never actually happened outside the minds of Democrats and Trump haters.
 
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silentkisser

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Skoob said:
You have applied the same list to Poilievre, Ford, etc. Am I right?
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Not really. I don't believe either of them are being influenced by Russia...What irks me about PP is his lies. There are so many things to criticize the Trudeau government on, yet he just can't stop spreading bullshit. He keeps talking about shit that isn't a federal issue. I think many people know there needs to be a change in Ottawa, but I have issues with someone who is so flexible with facts as PM.
Doug Ford is similar to Trudeau, where he continues to step into one self-made ethical crisis after another.
 
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shack

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Skoob said:
Leftist checklist for when they fear losing an election to a conservative:
- he's racist
- he's a Nazi
- he colludes with Russia
- he doesn't pay taxes
- he will ruin the country

Typical
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If it's typical, why I didn't hear any of these accusations against Mitt Romney or John McCain. You know why? Because they didn't apply.

But they sure as hell apply to trump.

As the saying goes, "if the shoe fits, wear it."
 
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Frankfooter said:
Its amazing how blind people are to what they refuse to see.
HRW ruled that Hamas illegally took hostages on Oct.7 occupying and must return them immediately and unconditionally.
HRW ruled that Hamas committed war crimes and crimes against humanity on Oct.7
The UN has passed no resolutions declaring that Israel has committed apartheird or genocide.

And yet I still make idiotic statements.
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For the sake of transparency and honesty, I made a minor change to your post, Geno.

And there are enough threads about Israel and the war that your post was out of place putting it here, especially since both parties support Israel's efforts.
 
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Skoob

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shack said:
If it's typical, why I didn't hear any of these accusations against Mitt Romney or John McCain. You know why? Because they didn't apply.

But they sure as hell apply to trump.

As the saying goes, "if the shoe fits, wear it."
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You just haven't been paying attention...for example...

Romney Accused of Racism After Saying NAACP Wants ‘Free Stuff’
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2012/07/romney-accused-of-racism-following-naacp-speech.html

"I hate the gooks," McCain said yesterday in response to a question from reporters aboard his campaign bus. "I will hate them as long as I live."
https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/McCain-Criticized-for-Slur-He-says-he-ll-keep-3304741.php
 
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Frankfooter

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shack said:
For the sake of transparency and honesty, I made a minor change to your post, Geno.

And there are enough threads about Israel and the war that your post was out of place putting it here, especially since both parties support Israel's efforts.
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We could move it, I'd support that.
The only reason to keep it here is that while both leaders back it the population is against it.
 
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Skoob said:
The evidence that didn't amount to Trump colluding with Russia?
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It did amount to Trump colluding with Russia.
It didn't amount to a prosecutable case for Conspiracy with Russia.

Again, you should try reading the report.

I find it interesting that you say lack of evidence doesn't prove innocence, but then lack of evidence proves guilt when you want it to.

The constant variable here is the direct relationship between how much evidence you think is necessary to condemn someone you just don't like.
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There wasn't enough evidence to convict him in a court of law of the statutes available.
I thought we both agreed on that.
 
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