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The Great Debate

Who won the great debate?

  • Harris

    Votes: 77 78.6%
  • Trump

    Votes: 9 9.2%
  • Both were bad with no winner

    Votes: 10 10.2%
  • Both were good with no winner

    Votes: 2 2.0%

  • Total voters
    98

mandrill

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The point is all her tax increases will not pay for all her programs.

I haven't even brought up Kamala's plan to give first-time home buyers money for a new home will not make homes more affordable. It will only raise prices further in a housing market with tight supply.

There is the saying "take that with a grain of salt". Take ALL politicians with a grain of salt not just the one's you dislike. The biggest difference between Trump and Kamala is she's a much smoother liar. And sometimes her wheels fall off the wagon.
She's also not senile and she doesn't have a weird hair transplant.
 

mandrill

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Maybe we can get the low class Asians who came to Canada for more cheap labor for us next. We already got the super smart Asians here in the US. It will be like home for them. Employing the poor Canadian Asians for cleaning the house and babysitting the kids.

Trump 2024 for US dominance. :LOL: Will make all the countries pay. Be afraid.
Eddie, are you being normal with that post? 😯 😼:oops:
 

Valcazar

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I think if Kamala Harris is elected, she will have to deal with a Republican Senate at a minimum.
That seems the most likely outcome right now, I agree.
Not by a LOT (things are far too close and there are many combinations) but it is probably slightly leading the pack.

Anyway, the U.S. tends to still thrive when both parties have a share of power.
Can't really say I agree with that.
Given the surplus of veto points in the system, split government these days seems to lead to paralysis, not thriving.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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All the racist MAGAts are still butt hurt about Obama being a black man at the highest position in their country
It is what got them to back a candidate like Trump in the first place. The Republican party under Bush and Cheney were retarded enough, but they went full retard with Trump. lol.
 
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WyattEarp

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Yet you don't mention how Trumpy is going to pay for his gifts? Why does he get a pass on policy yet you expect Harris to lay it out step by step, numbers all crunched and presented in a financial presentation??
That was really the point about politicians. I wasn't singling Harris out.
 

Valcazar

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Are you sure about that considering the Bushs went to war in Afghanistan and Iraq? I ask you again, are you sure about your statement?

hint, don't mix up airstrikes with casualties or which Prez killed more terrorists!
I think Wyatt is speaking purely in terms of American troop casualties in Afghanistan.
This is a true statement. Due to the "surge" that Obama did, there are more deaths in his first term than any other period.
 

Valcazar

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An expert's point of view on a current event.
Calling Trump an Anti-Imperialist Is Nonsense
The anti-war left shouldn’t fall for this dishonest pitch.
By Matthew Duss, the executive vice president at the Center for International Policy.
If you are going to grab a Foreign Policy article, you should do some clean up on the presentation.
 

Valcazar

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In any event, we all know most of this has to go through Congress regardless of who is President.
This is a big problem in American politics in general.
People think the President has different powers than they actually have.
 

squeezer

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Someone I know knew her mom at Berkeley. He was getting a phd at Stanford at the same time she was there. They were one of the few people in the area who were Indian in the area so they were close enough.

All he spoke about was the racism they faced and how hard it was for anyone not white at that time in California. He’s a Trump hater because of that. I feel Kamala is a vendetta candidate to fuck over this country and turn it over to the minorities.

I’m not going to support that. We can not let this happen.
So you rather have an actual lying racist as POTUS?

Kamala has JOY ;) behind her not angry lying living in the past rhetoric.
 

Valcazar

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Where does lying about a group of LEGAL migrants eating people's pets, causing schools to be closed, and endangering the community fit into your definition?
I think Butler's argument is that personal evil and corruption isn't as important as systemic evil and corruption.

So large scale actions that have major consequences in terms of making people's lives worse are more important than any personal failings.

Of course, Trump is a pretty terrible person by that standard, too, so it sort of doesn't really matter.
But I think that's the point he is trying to make here.
 
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Valcazar

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Do you know the difference between a legal immigrant and an illegal immigrant? Also, why would one send a legal immigrant from Haiti to Venezuela? Is this a new Trumpy policy??

As much as I would love to call you a few good names I don't because I don't want to get banned. I shouldn't be telling you this, never mind, you just be you.
That a boy, let the racist come fulyl out! Stop hiding, show your true self.
He hasn't been hiding.
That flag has been flying clearly for a while now.

It’s about making the weak suffer. It doesn’t have to make sense as long as it fucks them over.
This flag as well.
Like I said, it isn't like he has been hiding who and what he is.
 
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squeezer

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I think Butler's argument is that personal evil and corruption isn't as important as systemic evil and corruption.

So large scale actions that have major consequences in terms of making people's lives worse are more important than any personal failings.

Of course, Trump is a pretty terrible person by that standard, too, so it sort of doesn't really matter.
But I think that's the point he is trying to make here.
I get it but Trump embodies it all. He is a one-man wrecking ball.

 

dirtydaveiii

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This is a big problem in American politics in general.
People think the President has different powers than they actually have.
President's have executive orders but those are also subject to be overruled as disaster Donnie found out.
 

squeezer

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He hasn't been hiding.
That flag has been flying clearly for a while now.



This flag as well.
Like I said, it isn't like he has been hiding who and what he is.
I think today he's hit one too many beers. It's Saturday so downing a 24 of Budweiser while sitting in his pick up typing away on his phone is the vision I have of the gentleman. LOL
 
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