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The Great Debate

Who won the great debate?

  • Harris

    Votes: 77 78.6%
  • Trump

    Votes: 9 9.2%
  • Both were bad with no winner

    Votes: 10 10.2%
  • Both were good with no winner

    Votes: 2 2.0%

  • Total voters
    98

Valcazar

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If there was clear evidence that there was indeed collusion it would have been found.
What a ridiculous statement.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Fact is, there wasn't because it didn't happen.
You do know evidence of collusion was found, right?
What wasn't found was sufficient evidence to charge any member of the campaign with taking part in a criminal conspiracy and likely get a prosecution.

The whole thing was a political tactic to smear an opponent and get people sucked into headlines.
The investigation was a sham from the beginning and anyone who can take a step back and look at it can clearly see it was an example of a weaponized justice system by the Dems.
They had the entire power of the FBI at their disposal and couldn't find any tangible evidence to prove Trump was involved in collusion.
That should concern you.
While the whole "It was a political tactic" is a much-needed emotional security blanket for you, I am most intrigued by what appears to be an unconscious admission here.
As you know, Trump has repeatedly promised to weaponize the justice system and government against his enemies again, as he did in his first Adminsitration.

He had only limited success the first go-round, and some of his supporters have claimed this was due to the Deep State being against him and his inexperience in the Presidency.
The implication being that he would be better in round two.

"That should concern you" really does make it sound like you are worried that even with the second time around, he won't be able to do better in persecuting his enemies.
 

squeezer

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This is an awesome debate watching a lefty dismantle a deplorable rightie, conspiracy theorist, anti-vaxxer.

 
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squeezer

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Another interesting debate. Why is the Leftie always more armed with facts and the Rightie uses word salads of fiction.

Hopefully, Trump will grow a pair of balls and accept another Harris Vs Trump debate.


Can 1 Woke Teen Survive 20 Trump Supporters?

 
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dirtydaveiii

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Another interesting debate. Why is the Leftie always more armed with facts and the Rightie uses word salads of fiction.

Hopefully, Trump will grow a pair of balls and accept another Harris Vs Trump debate.


Can 1 Woke Teen Survive 20 Trump Supporters?

That's about as likely as his handlers allowing him to testify in court
 

Skoob

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What a ridiculous statement.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.



You do know evidence of collusion was found, right?
What wasn't found was sufficient evidence to charge any member of the campaign with taking part in a criminal conspiracy and likely get a prosecution.



While the whole "It was a political tactic" is a much-needed emotional security blanket for you, I am most intrigued by what appears to be an unconscious admission here.
As you know, Trump has repeatedly promised to weaponize the justice system and government against his enemies again, as he did in his first Adminsitration.

He had only limited success the first go-round, and some of his supporters have claimed this was due to the Deep State being against him and his inexperience in the Presidency.
The implication being that he would be better in round two.

"That should concern you" really does make it sound like you are worried that even with the second time around, he won't be able to do better in persecuting his enemies.
You seriously believe that with the entire power of the FBI at their disposal, they couldn't find anything that Trump was colluding with the Russians? Not bits and pieces if fragmented theories, but conclusive evidence?
Think about that.
One of the most powerful agencies on the planet with limitless resources and intelligence, couldn't find something that would conclusively demonstrate and produce evidence that Trump was colluding with the Russians.

But you think that someone is guilty regardless of evidence just because there was no evidence?
That's how banana republic justice systems work...maybe a few Communist ones as well.

So tell us where you draw the line as to whether someone is truly guilty or not?
 
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Bucktee

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"What will you do to stop illegal border crossings?"

Kamala: "If it wasn't for Donald Trump...."

But you've been in office for 4 years.
 
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squeezer

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"What will you do to stop illegal border crossings?"

Kamala: "If it wasn't for Donald Trump...."

But you've been in office for 4 years.
Well then, perhaps Trump should not have stopped the bill which was created by a bipartisan team led by a Republican so he can run on the border issue. It is because he doesn't give a rat's ass about the border.

 
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Bucktee

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Well then, perhaps Trump should not have stopped the bill which was created by a bipartisan team led by a Republican so he can run on the border issue. It is because he doesn't give a rat's ass about the border.


Your link is confirmation.

It can be summarized: Illegal immigration exploded under Biden, for a variety of reasons.

This year, the illegal flow has declined... because it's time for an election so Biden has shifted policies.

4 years too late.
 
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Valcazar

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You seriously believe that with the entire power of the FBI at their disposal, they couldn't find anything that Trump was colluding with the Russians?
They found a lot.
They didn't find enough to prosecute the crime of conspiracy on the statute, since "collusion" isn't a thing under law.


One of the most powerful agencies on the planet with limitless resources and intelligence
Ahh, I see you are deluded about reality here.

But you think that someone is guilty regardless of evidence just because there was no evidence?
Not at all.
I think you need to consider the evidence.
I just don't believe in lying and saying no evidence was found.

That's how banana republic justice systems work...maybe a few Communist ones as well.

So tell us where you draw the line as to whether someone is truly guilty or not?
With the evidence.
You should try it.
 
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Frankfooter

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Your link is confirmation.

It can be summarized: Illegal immigration exploded under Biden, for a variety of reasons.

This year, the illegal flow has declined... because it's time for an election so Biden has shifted policies.

4 years too late.
So he fixed the problem?
 

squeezer

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Your link is confirmation.

It can be summarized: Illegal immigration exploded under Biden, for a variety of reasons.

This year, the illegal flow has declined... because it's time for an election so Biden has shifted policies.

4 years too late.
NO, your cult leader denied a bipartisan bill that would have solved the problem and Harris has vowed to bring it back and make it into law. I will also add border officers along with the Republican party originally supported til their Furor told them not to. The SOB only did this to be able to run on the border issue, so how much does he care about the border?
 
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The Oracle

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NO, your cult leader denied a bipartisan bill that would have solved the problem and Harris has vowed to bring it back and make it into law. I will also add border officers along with the Republican party originally supported til their Furor told them not to. The SOB only did this to be able to run on the border issue, so how much does he care about the border?
They let 12 million people in under their rule...12 million illegals...Let that sink in.

Here have read and educate yourself on the topic. The bill didn't do what the Republicans wanted it to do...It wasn't tough enough.


'' But the conservatives are right about this bill. The Border Act would not stop the administration from continuing to create questionable parole programs to admit migrants who don’t have visas or other valid entry documents. It would not end catch and release. It would not stop migrants from using meritless asylum claims to enter and remain in the United States indefinitely. ''
 
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Skoob

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They found a lot.
They didn't find enough to prosecute the crime of conspiracy on the statute, since "collusion" isn't a thing under law.




Ahh, I see you are deluded about reality here.



Not at all.
I think you need to consider the evidence.
I just don't believe in lying and saying no evidence was found.



With the evidence.
You should try it.
The evidence that didn't amount to Trump colluding with Russia?

I find it interesting that you say lack of evidence doesn't prove innocence, but then lack of evidence proves guilt when you want it to.

The constant variable here is the direct relationship between how much evidence you think is necessary to condemn someone you just don't like.
 
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squeezer

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They let 12 million people in under their rule...12 million illegals...Let that sink in.

Here have read and educate yourself on the topic. The bill didn't do what the Republicans wanted it to do...It wasn't tough enough.


'' But the conservatives are right about this bill. The Border Act would not stop the administration from continuing to create questionable parole programs to admit migrants who don’t have visas or other valid entry documents. It would not end catch and release. It would not stop migrants from using meritless asylum claims to enter and remain in the United States indefinitely. ''
Notice this tagline

by Nolan Rappaport, opinion contributor - 08/06/24 11:00 AM ET

Everyone has an opinion like everyone has an asshole. Stop being fooled by rightwing opinion pieces that mean JACK SHIT!!

Hey, Trump is getting Loomered. Where is Melania??

 

The Oracle

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Notice this tagline

by Nolan Rappaport, opinion contributor - 08/06/24 11:00 AM ET

Everyone has an opinion like everyone has an asshole. Stop being fooled by rightwing opinion pieces that mean JACK SHIT!!

Hey, Trump is getting Loomered. Where is Melania??

LOL..So you're not disputing the facts you're attacking the author...And then a Frankfootian deflection...Awesome.
 
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