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Who won the great debate?

  • Harris

    Votes: 77 78.6%

  • Trump

    Votes: 9 9.2%

  • Both were bad with no winner

    Votes: 10 10.2%

  • Both were good with no winner

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Total voters
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Skoob

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shack said:
If it's typical, why I didn't hear any of these accusations against Mitt Romney or John McCain. You know why? Because they didn't apply.

But they sure as hell apply to trump.

As the saying goes, "if the shoe fits, wear it."
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You just haven't been paying attention...for example...

Romney Accused of Racism After Saying NAACP Wants ‘Free Stuff’
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2012/07/romney-accused-of-racism-following-naacp-speech.html

"I hate the gooks," McCain said yesterday in response to a question from reporters aboard his campaign bus. "I will hate them as long as I live."
https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/McCain-Criticized-for-Slur-He-says-he-ll-keep-3304741.php
 
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shack said:
For the sake of transparency and honesty, I made a minor change to your post, Geno.

And there are enough threads about Israel and the war that your post was out of place putting it here, especially since both parties support Israel's efforts.
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We could move it, I'd support that.
The only reason to keep it here is that while both leaders back it the population is against it.
 
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The Oracle said:
You missed the joke...Just shocking, lol...Leftist's have no sense of humour.
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Silly sense of humour by the righties.................ROTFLMAO!!
 
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Skoob said:
The evidence that didn't amount to Trump colluding with Russia?
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It did amount to Trump colluding with Russia.
It didn't amount to a prosecutable case for Conspiracy with Russia.

Again, you should try reading the report.

I find it interesting that you say lack of evidence doesn't prove innocence, but then lack of evidence proves guilt when you want it to.

The constant variable here is the direct relationship between how much evidence you think is necessary to condemn someone you just don't like.
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There wasn't enough evidence to convict him in a court of law of the statutes available.
I thought we both agreed on that.
 
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Skoob

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Valcazar said:
It did amount to Trump colluding with Russia.
It didn't amount to a prosecutable case for Conspiracy with Russia.

Again, you should try reading the report.



There wasn't enough evidence to convict him in a court of law of the statutes available.
I thought we both agreed on that.
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In other words, no collusion regardless of how you want to twist things to fit your narrative.
This witch hunt didn't provide enough evidence. We can agree on that.

Unless of course you believe that evidence doesn't matter if someone you don't like is being prosecuted.
 
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Skoob said:
In other words, no collusion regardless of how you want to twist things to fit your narrative.
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Right.
I forgot you're the "unless a guilty verdict is found in a court of law of something with that exact word, no one did it" guy.
No one has committed rape in Canada for 40 years and so on.


This witch hunt didn't provide enough evidence. We can agree on that.
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No.
We don't agree it was a witch hunt.
We agree there wasn't enough evidence to go forward with a prosecution (given the rules DOJ has) as an unregistered agent of the Russian government, campaign-finance violations, or conspiracy with representatives of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election.

Unless of course you believe that evidence doesn't matter if someone you don't like is being prosecuted.
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Evidence always matters, and he wasn't prosecuted.
 
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Valcazar said:
Right.
I forgot you're the "unless a guilty verdict is found in a court of law of something with that exact word, no one did it" guy.
No one has committed rape in Canada for 40 years and so on.




No.
We don't agree it was a witch hunt.
We agree there wasn't enough evidence to go forward with a prosecution (given the rules DOJ has) as an unregistered agent of the Russian government, campaign-finance violations, or conspiracy with representatives of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election.



Evidence always matters, and he wasn't prosecuted.
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Imagine the world you would live in if guilty verdicts were given based on one's biased hatred of another without a court of law.
 
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Valcazar said:
It did amount to Trump colluding with Russia.
It didn't amount to a prosecutable case for Conspiracy with Russia.

Again, you should try reading the report.



There wasn't enough evidence to convict him in a court of law of the statutes available.
I thought we both agreed on that.
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Wow you can't really believe that. Mueller saying you can't indict a sitting president who has committed crimes does not prove he didn't commit any crimes. And what about these guys who worked for Trump? Wrongly convicted too ? https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/breakdown-indictments-cases-muellers-probe/story?id=61219489
 
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squeezer said:
I'm worried for Mitchy! He's been MIA and the rumor was he was going to Springfield to stop migrants from eating dogs and cats.
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Haitian rights group files charges against Trump and Vance.

www.ctvnews.ca

Haitian group in Ohio files citizen criminal charges against Trump and Vance

The leader of a nonprofit representing the Haitian community invoked a private-citizen right to file charges Tuesday against former U.S. president Donald Trump and his running mate, JD Vance, over the chaos and threats experienced by Springfield, Ohio, since Trump first spread false claims about...
www.ctvnews.ca www.ctvnews.ca
 
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dirtydaveiii said:
Wow you can't really believe that. Mueller saying you can't indict a sitting president who has committed crimes does not prove he didn't commit any crimes. And what about these guys who worked for Trump? Wrongly convicted too ? https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/breakdown-indictments-cases-muellers-probe/story?id=61219489
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Mueller said after the release of his report that Trump could be arrested and charged with obstruction of justice for the way he impeded the investigation....which is obviously something an innocent person does....
 
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