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big104u said:
Thankfully the asshole Jihadists and Marxist fuckheads are few and far between within Canadian borders. But they should be deported to a penal island to eat their own.
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Hope they would have cameras there, I'd subscribe to pay per view!
 
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big104u said:
Tell me why innocent Jewish Canadians who have nothing to do with the war in Israel are being targeted by Jihadists and Marxist assholes in Canada?
When did it become normal and acceptable within Canadian borders for asshole Jihadists and Marxist fuckheads to harass Jewish students on Canadian campuses, burn and vandalize Canadian Jewish businesses and schools, as well as target Canadian synagogues?
Antisemitism is just as unjustified as Islamophobia in Canada. But there are many who disagree on this front.
Thankfully the asshole Jihadists and Marxist fuckheads are few and far between within Canadian borders. But they should be deported to a penal island to eat their own.
Most CANADIANS are peaceful and don't want to get caught up in the religious and political bullshit that has been ongoing for centuries.

But I am definitely thankful for all the Canadian veterans and their allies for fighting for the freedom and democracy of CANADA.
I come from a family of veterans who have served in many conflicts since world war 1.
I will always show my respect on Remembrance Day for their sacrifice for OUR peace in Canada. Let's keep it that way.
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So, you wrote all that, just to make this statement.

big104u said:
If you find this view unacceptable then go back to your rat hole and hide like the coward we all know you are.
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I find this view totally unacceptable, I live in a nice residence, and I'm not hiding, I'm right here.
Pure nonsense what you wrote.
 
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shack said:
There are no American boots on the ground. Israelis are the only ones fighting this fight. A tiny nation with "the great majority of the world" against them. And the "great majority of the world" has not even attempted to lift a finger to actually prove that they give a shit about what's happening. The great majority of the world, if they cared, would squash Israel (even with the help of the US).
Very eloquent, fact filled and compelling. You have a typically pathetic ability to debate.


You are displaying your ignorance. Here are just two examples where the nations of the world take in displaced people from areas of conflict. But the Palestinians are not welcome anywhere, even in fellow Muslim countries just across the border.

An ongoing refugee crisis began in Europe in late February 2022 after Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Over 6 million refugees fleeing Ukraine are recorded across Europe, while an estimated 8 million others had been displaced within the country by late May 2022. Wikipedia

Sudanese refugees are persons originating from the country of Sudan, but seeking refuge outside the borders of their native country. In recent history, Sudan has been the stage for prolonged conflicts and civil wars, as well as environmental changes, namely desertification. Wikipedia
Egypt: 317,000
Ethiopia: 38,214

Even Yemen: Yemen hosts around 99,877 refugees and asylum seekers, 70 percent of whom are Somali and 20 percent Ethiopian - making Yemen the world’s fourth largest host of Somali refugees.

You need to control your anger and vulgarity. Your hatred of Jews is visibly consuming you and it's not a good look.

It's on your terrorist buddies in Hamas to stop attacking Israeli civilians.
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Whoever is writing this for you, tell him he's an idiot.
This is not your writing AT ALL....not in style, not in substance, not in tone.
What, you have some ghost writer feeding you responses now?
 
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shack said:
I hit it head on.

You compared the Holocaust to the the situation in Gaza and I showed how incomparable the 2 situations are. Of course your retort was nothing more than a personal attack and did not directly address my points.

Typical behaviour of an anti-Semite when your racist, BS, Holocaust minimizing rhetoric is called out.
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Coming from a typical zionist, I really don't care about how exceptional you think you are.
 
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shack said:
You should wear the shoe because it is a perfect fit. When you make accusations and statements minimizing the Holocaust and I give valid, rational points and all you come back with ad hominem rants, you validate my accusations. It's rather pathetic yet entirely predictable.

Genocide, apartheid are words that have been weaponized.
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Anti-semite is zionist finger pointing.
Practically the whole world has judged Israel as apartheid and genocidal.
But I'll bet you still don't see the difference.
 
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mellowjello said:
Anti-semite is zionist finger pointing.
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And it's pointed exactly on target. Anti-Zionism is code for anti-Semitism for the cowards who are afraid to admit their true motivation. Just say that you hate Jews. It would give you some credibility.
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Practically the whole world has judged Israel as apartheid and genocidal.
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Yet do nothing about it. Clearly they have no conviction. They refuse to back up their hollow rhetoric with any action. Nobody is helping in the conflict and nobody is helping the oppressed Gazans.
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But I'll bet you still don't see the difference.
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The difference between hating Zionists and hating Jews? You're right. I don't see a difference.

Let me know when you get tired of having your ass handed to you.
 
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Butler1000 said:
I think there were a few that realized from the beginning it was inevitable this is where it would end up. And yes some wanted it. I think the majority initially just wanted a place to feel safe after the world had essentially turned their back.

Some Jews were trying to put this together pre WW 2 by buying up shitty property there(the locals were happy to sell it). But that would not have worked because they needed political and military support to really get it going. It's not like they came in strong. They were a very poor nation, had to have a lot of aid and socialist policy to get by. And in regular conflict.

Winning wars gave the nationalists the momentum to get where we are.
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Zionism, as far as I know had its beginnings in the late 1800s, Herzl the most significant writer.
The state of Israel is a Western construct, the U.S. and U.K. the main players, not surprising since the main oil producers were there.
Israel survived then and now because the western powers need Israel there, before to protect oil interests, and now to protect oil interests and
project U.S. geo-political interests in the region. Specifically to contain China.

Joe Biden says if Israel didn't exist, the US would have to invent one to protect US interests (youtube.com)

I totally get your angle on this conflict, it's a historical continuum of conflict. winners and losers, realpolitik in action.
But if that's the history of power, that everyone should just accept the inevitable without judgement, then no one is entitled to complain about their own suffering.
Netanyahu is not to be judged any different than any president, than Stalin, than Hitler, etc.
 
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shack said:
And it's pointed exactly on target. Anti-Zionism is code for anti-Semitism for the cowards who are afraid to admit their true motivation. Just say that you hate Jews. It would give you some credibility.
Yet do nothing about it. Clearly they have no conviction. They refuse to back up their hollow rhetoric with any action. Nobody is helping in the conflict and nobody is helping the oppressed Gazans.
The difference between hating Zionists and hating Jews? You're right. I don't see a difference.

Let me know when you get tired of having your ass handed to you.
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Wrong, zionist is code for subhuman.

Subhumans that murder thousands of innocent people, torture and rape prisoners, starve populations, snipe children in the head, steal land from other people,
try to crush anyone who criticize them.
Zionists are are also subhumans that conspicuously distract from their atrocities, distract by not addressing West Bank atrocities
where there is no Hamas, distract by trying to make the discussion about anti-semitis.m.
Are you saying that all Jews are like this, subhuman?
I think YOU are a zionist, a subhuman, I don't think all Jews are.
Apparently you do.

Lol, you aren't handing anyone's ass to anyone...ever.
By the way let me know who your ghost writer is.
 
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mellowjello said:
Zionism, as far as I know had its beginnings in the late 1800s, Herzl the most significant writer.
The state of Israel is a Western construct, the U.S. and U.K. the main players, not surprising since the main oil producers were there.
Israel survived then and now because the western powers need Israel there, before to protect oil interests, and now to protect oil interests and
project U.S. geo-political interests in the region. Specifically to contain China.

Joe Biden says if Israel didn't exist, the US would have to invent one to protect US interests (youtube.com)

I totally get your angle on this conflict, it's a historical continuum of conflict. winners and losers, realpolitik in action.
But if that's the history of power, that everyone should just accept the inevitable without judgement, then no one is entitled to complain about their own suffering.
Netanyahu is not to be judged any different than any president, than Stalin, than Hitler, etc.
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In Britain in fact. Timeline is correct.

There is a great book called "Scars of War, Wounds of Peace". A very non partisan book on the history leading up to about the late 1980's. The parts about the Camp David Accords which brought the Americans into the sphere are really informative.
 
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