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Israel at war

richaceg

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There are people arguing that the Palestinian genocide is an american project, that its the US that wants this to happen.
The US hasn't played good cop since before the GWOT.

It all seems so stupidly old school, its still largely about controlling oil resources when we have cheaper/better alternatives that aren't fucking over the planet. But the US empire is built on trying to out move OPEC and Putin to control oil and therefore the world.

Without oil there is no reason to invade anywhere in the otherwise resource poor middle east.

What Israel is doing to the US standing won't be undone for a long time, though.
It must be Trump's fault...
 

richaceg

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Genocide Joe
Holocaust Harris
rump

You think they have much different ideas about ending the illegal occupation and genocide?
Trump isn't interested in conflict...he's a money guy...He'll probably prefer to not give funds to anybody in the Middle East (including israel) for war games....but keep trying...Look who's in charge of the US that should be your answer...
 

Frankfooter

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Trump isn't interested in conflict...he's a money guy...He'll probably prefer to not give funds to anybody in the Middle East (including israel) for war games....but keep trying...Look who's in charge of the US that should be your answer...
He's already said he'd give more bombs so Netanyahu could 'finish the job' faster.
That's just more death he wants.

Would he spend more than $1000 to kill each person in Gaza?

 
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mellowjello

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There are people arguing that the Palestinian genocide is an american project, that its the US that wants this to happen.
The US hasn't played good cop since before the GWOT.

It all seems so stupidly old school, its still largely about controlling oil resources when we have cheaper/better alternatives that aren't fucking over the planet. But the US empire is built on trying to out move OPEC and Putin to control oil and therefore the world.

Without oil there is no reason to invade anywhere in the otherwise resource poor middle east.

What Israel is doing to the US standing won't be undone for a long time, though.
Oil to a point, controlling oil is a means to an end. The bigger picture is containing China and even more important is preserving the international financial system that they control and the dollar as reserve currency. China's road and belt initiative and growing diplomatic influence in the Middle East and the South will propel them to another level economically and politically.
That will be the beginning of the end of U.S. monopoly of the financial system, and that will be the end of America as we know it.
 

shack

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I've repeatedly said that's not my view and still you repeat it.
How many Israelis do you feel are Zionist? This is simply your opinion. It does not have to be accurate at all. What does your sense tell you?

I believe that you feel it is 100%. If you feel my estimate is wrong, please tell us the estimate that you believe would be more accurate? Until you can provide a number, the number 100% stands.
 

shack

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It doesn't matter who's president, the course will never change.
It's not about AIPAC or Israel going rogue, this is about the U.S.projecting foreign policy in the region. Israel is playing bad cop, and U.S. is struggling to play good cop.
To me this is a precursor to further incursions into the region. That's why they're joined at the hip and U.S. keeps sending money.
U.S. elites would never allow Israel to undermine their world standing unless their interests weren't being served.
Bingo. Israel is the best ally that the US has in the region.
 

Frankfooter

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How many Israelis do you feel are Zionist? This is simply your opinion. It does not have to be accurate at all. What does your sense tell you?

I believe that you feel it is 100%. If you feel my estimate is wrong, please tell us the estimate that you believe would be more accurate? Until you can provide a number, the number 100% stands.
Shazi, I've repeatedly said I don't know.
As far as I know there are no polls.

Your estimate is bullshit, like all of your posts.

How many zionists do you think are happy when they see posts like this?
I think you feel its 100%.
 

shack

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Shazi, I've repeatedly said I don't know.
As far as I know there are no polls.
Polls or stats are irrelevant. It's not a quiz.

This is simply your opinion. Nothing more or nothing less.

Are you saying that the most opinionated person on TERB, doesn't know what his own opinion is? That is a nonsensical answer.

I keep telling you that your rabid hate is curdling the blood in your brain. So many of your posts no longer make any sense.

I believe that you feel that 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists. If you feel that I am wrong, please tell us what you personally believe is the proper percentage. If you do not, then it means that you are accepting my estimate at face value and we can use it in any future discussions. I'm cool with that.
 

shack

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Getting the US to send $1000 worth of bombs per person in Gaza is messed up.
I think that only the Americans are in a position to decide how much Israel's actions as an ally and proxy in the area is worth to them.

That's what I say over and over. Lobbies and AIPACs etc. are irrelevant, a pittance. It is what Israel does to protect American interests, is why the US continues to help Israel.

As a result, Israeli strategy and diplomacy in regards to the US has proven to be much more effective than Islamic violence.
 

Frankfooter

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Polls or stats are irrelevant. It's not a quiz.

This is simply your opinion. Nothing more or nothing less.

Are you saying that the most opinionated person on TERB, doesn't know what his own opinion is? That is a nonsensical answer.

I keep telling you that your rabid hate is curdling the blood in your brain. So many of your posts no longer make any sense.

I believe that you feel that 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists. If you feel that I am wrong, please tell us what you personally believe is the proper percentage. If you do not, then it means that you are accepting my estimate at face value and we can use it in any future discussions. I'm cool with that.
I don't know, Shazi.
In nazi Germany, how many do you think were really nazis and how many just played along to survive?

Same question in Israel.

 
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Frankfooter

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I think that only the Americans are in a position to decide how much Israel's actions as an ally and proxy in the area is worth to them.

That's what I say over and over. Lobbies and AIPACs etc. are irrelevant, a pittance. It is what Israel does to protect American interests, is why the US continues to help Israel.

As a result, Israeli strategy and diplomacy in regards to the US has proven to be much more effective than Islamic violence.
How is making the world hate Genocide Joe and Holocaust Harris protecting US interests?

 
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Valcazar

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300 days later and your views haven't shifted.
I am interested in what you think you can teach people on this thread at this point.
I still hope that if I actually did a post on voting systems and how they work, people would learn something.

But that would be its own thread, not directly related to this one.
 
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