Do you believe in privilege? White privilege, etc?

[basketcase]

Hispanic households are shown to be larger than Asian households, yet they have lower median incomes than Asian households. So this graphic is most likely reflecting the fact that white people tend to have less kids than immigrants. Which is very true.

Income is directly proportional to education. Indian immigrants tend to be better educated, have higher education levels and therefore higher incomes. Multi-generational households may have an impact, but it is less common, than most Indian immigrants being better educated and having better jobs that pay well. Education is the key.

Indian migrants to US better educated, have higher incomes than others: study - The Economic Times

On average, households headed by an Indian immigrant had a median annual income of $150,000 in 2021, compared to $70,000 for all immigrant- and native-led households, the study, made public earlier this month, showed. In 2021, Indian immigrants were less likely to be in poverty (5%) than...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

Also missing from the analysis is population sizes. Japanese Americans make up less than half a percent so a small wave of Japanese immigrants connected to wealthy Japanese corporations will skew the statistics far more than some wealthy Columbian immigrants joining the US Hispanic community.

Education does play a huge role. So does the opportunity to use that advantage. For example, how many well educated Indians are still living in poorer conditions back home because they didn't have the connections or the luck to immigrate to the US.

 

[TomFord1980]

So it's now racist to admit the racism inherent in Western society?

But sure, instead of talking about white being a privilege, maybe you would be more comfortable if we talked about the disadvantages of being a visible minority.

This is very dangerous rhetoric. Considering there are 1 million people of colour coming into the country every year. Pretty soon whites will be minority and the POC wont be as forgiving since its been beaten into their heads that whites are evil due to shite that happened when we werent even born!

 

[escortsxxx]

...Except real.

It is stupid to pretend that simply being white gives one a great life but it does take away some barriers others face. As I've pointed out many times, learning to speak 'properly' and dress appropriately makes poverty and other disadvantages white guys have invisible to those around you.

A fleeting glimpse of insight, lost in a haze of vagueness, this concept drifts like a whispered secret, never quite taking shape. It begins with a spark of curiosity, akin to Newton's moment of wonder beneath the apple tree, where the falling fruit sparked a revelation about gravity's gentle pull.

But what if Newton had taken a different path? What if he had declared that the apple fell because it loved the earth, and that love was the fundamental force governing the universe? This is the trajectory of the theory before us, a meandering journey that substitutes sentiment for science.

Instead of gravity's precise calculations, we find vague notions of affection and attachment. Instead of the elegance of physics, we're left with a pseudo-religious doctrine that promises wonder but delivers only confusion. The result is a theory that's as ephemeral as a whispered secret, lost in a haze of vagueness, never quite taking shape.

Moreover, when such thinking is infused with religious fervor, it can become a potent brew of intolerance and discord. History has shown us time and again that unchecked religious zeal can lead to the demonization of dissenting voices, the persecution of minorities, and the erosion of empathy and compassion. When 'love' becomes a dogma, it can quickly curdle into hate for those who refuse to conform. It's crucial to recognize the dangers of religious thinking in producing hate and discord, and to champion instead a culture of critical inquiry, intellectual humility, and inclusive dialogue.








PS
As someone whose family survived a fantasy world utopia turned into a hell on earth, I can attest to the seductive power of such ideas. The promise of a perfect society, built on 'love' and 'unity', can be tantalizing, especially in times of uncertainty and chaos. But I've seen how quickly that promise can turn into a nightmare of oppression, fear, and violence. It's a path that's all too easy to tread, and one that we must be vigilant against, lest we forget the lessons of history and succumb to the same dangers once again.

 

[Ghbff]

This is very dangerous rhetoric. Considering there are 1 million people of colour coming into the country every year. Pretty soon whites will be minority and the POC wont be as forgiving since its been beaten into their heads that whites are evil due to shite that happened when we werent even born!

 

[TomFord1980]

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Exactly, the brothers do not like white men since they think the system's rigged against them even though all you need to do is get a real job and behave.

 

[escortsxxx]

White privileged still exists in many of the countries you are describing. It’s a hold-over from colonialism and the days of the British Empire.

In India, for example, light-coloured skin is still considered a sign of beauty. Being white is still associated with wealth, power, and beauty despite the fact that India kicked the Brits out back in 1947.

The same phenomenon exists in the African American community. After all of the changes that have been achieved over the years in the Civil Rights movement, it is ironic how things like this can persevere…but they do.




It’s interesting how much the Far Right share in common with Radical Islam…including a rejection of traditional western values.



Advocating for Social Justice is hard work.

Living in poverty in an oppressive society is hard work.

The fact that you are so upset about this suggests that you do in fact care…and you are pretty mad about it…Good.

This is flat wrong. Babies prefer white dolls before any cultural indoctrination. Love of blue eyes has been genetic for thousands of years. White being a mass world wide minority is weird and bizare and it attracts. A small faction of the world population is "white" the majority of course are Asian. Its should be noted some countreis charge 1000% or more white tax to go to tourists to go do local attractions. Actual systemtic racism is the norm for non western countries to varying degrees. Immigration rates are lower than 1% in many - a sign that there not welcoming in the least. Tialand, prolby one of the most welcoming countries has strick controls of evening living and working there, thought it you have money that can be overcome.

 

[Adamxx]

If a caucasian person moved to India, or China, Nigeria, or any country where the indigenous population isn't white....would anyone over there be trying to ignite a Leftist social justice movement counteracting brown or asian privilege?
No, because this is purely a Western idea, much like many of the Leftist social ideologies.

No One Cares.
Work Harder.
Stop Crying

If history is accurate, they did enter many of those countries, were treated well, and then took over the countries, while depleting the resources for their ‘common wealth’ hence the language .

Take a look at it from Canada’s indigenous people’s perspective, if you prefer something closer to home.

 

[Adamxx]

There is that in the black community. Funny the ebony ladies will say the complexion of the bloke not a big deal for them, but every single ebony lady i know or have dated says the black blokes very much care about the lighter complexions and will favour the lighter ladies. There was a status element in the Caribbean along the lines above and you'll see the lighter skinned ladies walk around with an umbrella to keep the sun off them.

One can cherry pick a certain comment or communique and base their beliefs on it.

Not so simple, except for the simple minded.

Here is an example of a survey carried out on people of colour, both sexes some years ago, in the US

The summary was the following:

The coloured females who indicated that they preferred having children with whites, said, it was so because they did not want their children to be killed for being black.

As we all know, mothers will do anything to ensure their children have a good chance of living a good life.

That is only one example, as decisions made in life is not simple, for many, or as we say things are not always just black or white, there are many shades.

 

[escortsxxx]

A fleeting glimpse of insight, lost in a haze of vagueness, this concept drifts like a whispered secret, never quite taking shape. It begins with a spark of curiosity, akin to Newton's moment of wonder beneath the apple tree, where the falling fruit sparked a revelation about gravity's gentle pull.

But what if Newton had taken a different path? What if he had declared that the apple fell because it loved the earth, and that love was the fundamental force governing the universe? This is the trajectory of the theory before us, a meandering journey that substitutes sentiment for science.

Instead of gravity's precise calculations, we find vague notions of affection and attachment. Instead of the elegance of physics, we're left with a pseudo-religious doctrine that promises wonder but delivers only confusion. The result is a theory that's as ephemeral as a whispered secret, lost in a haze of vagueness, never quite taking shape.

Moreover, when such thinking is infused with religious fervor, it can become a potent brew of intolerance and discord. History has shown us time and again that unchecked religious zeal can lead to the demonization of dissenting voices, the persecution of minorities, and the erosion of empathy and compassion. When 'love' becomes a dogma, it can quickly curdle into hate for those who refuse to conform. It's crucial to recognize the dangers of religious thinking in producing hate and discord, and to champion instead a culture of critical inquiry, intellectual humility, and inclusive dialogue.








PS
As someone whose family survived a fantasy world utopia turned into a hell on earth, I can attest to the seductive power of such ideas. The promise of a perfect society, built on 'love' and 'unity', can be tantalizing, especially in times of uncertainty and chaos. But I've seen how quickly that promise can turn into a nightmare of oppression, fear, and violence. It's a path that's all too easy to tread, and one that we must be vigilant against, lest we forget the lessons of history and succumb to the same dangers once again.

More PPS - Trumper's and White Privilege believers are playing the same game, just different uniforms.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

This is flat wrong. Babies prefer white dolls before any cultural indoctrination. Love of blue eyes has been genetic for thousands of years…

Do you have any evidence to support this claim?

 

[basketcase]

A fleeting glimpse of insight, lost in a haze of vagueness, this concept drifts like a whispered secret, never quite taking shape. It begins with a spark of curiosity, akin to Newton's moment of wonder beneath the apple tree, where the falling fruit sparked a revelation about gravity's gentle pull.

But what if Newton had taken a different path? What if he had declared that the apple fell because it loved the earth, and that love was the fundamental force governing the universe? This is the trajectory of the theory before us, a meandering journey that substitutes sentiment for science.

Instead of gravity's precise calculations, we find vague notions of affection and attachment. Instead of the elegance of physics, we're left with a pseudo-religious doctrine that promises wonder but delivers only confusion. The result is a theory that's as ephemeral as a whispered secret, lost in a haze of vagueness, never quite taking shape.

Moreover, when such thinking is infused with religious fervor, it can become a potent brew of intolerance and discord. History has shown us time and again that unchecked religious zeal can lead to the demonization of dissenting voices, the persecution of minorities, and the erosion of empathy and compassion. When 'love' becomes a dogma, it can quickly curdle into hate for those who refuse to conform. It's crucial to recognize the dangers of religious thinking in producing hate and discord, and to champion instead a culture of critical inquiry, intellectual humility, and inclusive dialogue.








PS
As someone whose family survived a fantasy world utopia turned into a hell on earth, I can attest to the seductive power of such ideas. The promise of a perfect society, built on 'love' and 'unity', can be tantalizing, especially in times of uncertainty and chaos. But I've seen how quickly that promise can turn into a nightmare of oppression, fear, and violence. It's a path that's all too easy to tread, and one that we must be vigilant against, lest we forget the lessons of history and succumb to the same dangers once again.

Where did you get this piece of fiction writing from because it sure makes no effort to respond to the claims I made in my post.

 

[basketcase]

This is very dangerous rhetoric. ...

How so? Are you of the far right opinion that recognizing reality is dangerous?

Pretty soon whites will be minority and the POC wont be as forgiving since its been beaten into their heads that whites are evil due to shite that happened when we werent even born!

Do you spew this racist drivel because you think minorities are incapable of rational thought or is it simply you like to make implied threats on why you see immigration as dangerous?

 

[escortsxxx]

Do you have any evidence to support this claim?

Google?
first result though the majority interpolations are racial theory and the doll test (famous in law philosophy and psychology)

blue eyes less so



The earliest recorded mention of blue eyes being considered beautiful is found in:

• Ancient Mesopotamia: The Sumerian King Shulgi of Ur (2094-2047 BCE) described his own eyes as "blue" and "lapis lazuli-like", indicating a positive association with the color.
• Ancient Egypt: In the Epic of Gilgamesh (circa 2100 BCE), the goddess Ishtar is described as having "lapis lazuli eyes", which were likely blue. This suggests that blue eyes were valued and associated with divine beauty.
• Indus Valley Civilization: The ancient Indus Valley Civilization (3300-1300 BCE) depicted blue-eyed figures in their art, potentially indicating a cultural appreciation for blue eyes.
• Vedic Period in India: In the Rigveda (circa 1500 BCE), the god Indra is described as having "blue eyes", which were considered a symbol of divine power and beauty.

These early records suggest that blue eyes were valued and associated with beauty, divine power, and nobility in ancient cultures.




Research on blue eye preference in various regions and cultures has yielded intriguing results:

• Global preference: Studies have shown that people from diverse cultures, including African, Asian, and Indigenous American populations, often associate blue eyes with beauty, trustworthiness, and intelligence.
• European countries: In many European countries, blue eyes are relatively common, and there is no strong preference for blue eyes over other eye colors.
• African countries: In some African countries, like South Africa and Ghana, blue eyes are often associated with beauty and are preferred by some participants.
• Asian countries: In some Asian cultures, like Japan and China, blue eyes are considered exotic and attractive.
• Latin America: In some Latin American countries, like Brazil and Mexico, blue eyes are associated with beauty and are preferred by some participants.

The preference for blue eyes may be attributed to various factors, including:

• Evolutionary factors: Blue eyes are relatively rare, making them stand out and potentially more attractive.
• Cultural influence: Media representation, colonial history, and cultural exchange can contribute to the perception of blue eyes as desirable. However this is only recently so its a best an add on feature.
• Social status: In some cultures, blue eyes are associated with wealth, power, or high social status. This status of course is related to the first two, with the rarity being key, and of course some universal like in humanity DNA to like blue eyes or see them as a positive special trait (as opposed to being left handed, also rare, but seen as a negative)

Kenneth and Mamie Clark Doll - Brown v. Board of Education National Historical Park (U.S. National Park Service)

www.nps.gov

 

[Tutu Pizza]

Yes

 

[escortsxxx]

Where did you get this piece of fiction writing from because it sure makes no effort to respond to the claims I made in my post.

You are either totally ignorant or full of hate, but if the former here a video showing the racial hate that exists

 

[Knuckle Ball]

Google?
first result though the majority interpolations are racial theory and the doll test (famous in law philosophy and psychology)

blue eyes less so



The earliest recorded mention of blue eyes being considered beautiful is found in:

• Ancient Mesopotamia: The Sumerian King Shulgi of Ur (2094-2047 BCE) described his own eyes as "blue" and "lapis lazuli-like", indicating a positive association with the color.
• Ancient Egypt: In the Epic of Gilgamesh (circa 2100 BCE), the goddess Ishtar is described as having "lapis lazuli eyes", which were likely blue. This suggests that blue eyes were valued and associated with divine beauty.
• Indus Valley Civilization: The ancient Indus Valley Civilization (3300-1300 BCE) depicted blue-eyed figures in their art, potentially indicating a cultural appreciation for blue eyes.
• Vedic Period in India: In the Rigveda (circa 1500 BCE), the god Indra is described as having "blue eyes", which were considered a symbol of divine power and beauty.

These early records suggest that blue eyes were valued and associated with beauty, divine power, and nobility in ancient cultures.




Research on blue eye preference in various regions and cultures has yielded intriguing results:

• Global preference: Studies have shown that people from diverse cultures, including African, Asian, and Indigenous American populations, often associate blue eyes with beauty, trustworthiness, and intelligence.
• European countries: In many European countries, blue eyes are relatively common, and there is no strong preference for blue eyes over other eye colors.
• African countries: In some African countries, like South Africa and Ghana, blue eyes are often associated with beauty and are preferred by some participants.
• Asian countries: In some Asian cultures, like Japan and China, blue eyes are considered exotic and attractive.
• Latin America: In some Latin American countries, like Brazil and Mexico, blue eyes are associated with beauty and are preferred by some participants.

The preference for blue eyes may be attributed to various factors, including:

• Evolutionary factors: Blue eyes are relatively rare, making them stand out and potentially more attractive.
• Cultural influence: Media representation, colonial history, and cultural exchange can contribute to the perception of blue eyes as desirable. However this is only recently so its a best an add on feature.
• Social status: In some cultures, blue eyes are associated with wealth, power, or high social status. This status of course is related to the first two, with the rarity being key, and of course some universal like in humanity DNA to like blue eyes or see them as a positive special trait (as opposed to being left handed, also rare, but seen as a negative)

Kenneth and Mamie Clark Doll - Brown v. Board of Education National Historical Park (U.S. National Park Service)

www.nps.gov

None of the things you are claiming are referenced in the article you just cited.

Moreover, the article you cited demonstrates that racial segregation had a profoundly negative impact on African American children’s self esteem as it led them to view white dolls as more attractive than black ones. This study was used as evidence by the NAACP in Brown vs Board of Education.

The rest of the stuff you cut and pasted from…ummm…wherever…doesn’t support your argument either. In fact, the last paragraph describes attraction to blue eyes as determined by “evolutionary factors, cultural influence, and social status.”

It is unclear to me whether you are even reading the material you are posting or, if so, if you have some cognitive processing difficulties because everything you post means literally the opposite of what you think it means.



Anyway…I’m done arguing with you about this.

 

[escortsxxx]

None of the things you are claiming are referenced in the article you just cited.

Moreover, the article you cited demonstrates that racial segregation had a profoundly negative impact on African American children’s self esteem as it led them to view white dolls as more attractive than black ones. This study was used as evidence by the NAACP in Brown vs Board of Education.

The rest of the stuff you cut and pasted from…ummm…wherever…doesn’t support your argument either. In fact, the last paragraph describes attraction to blue eyes as determined by “evolutionary factors, cultural influence, and social status.”

It is unclear to me whether you are even reading the material you are posting or, if so, if you have some cognitive processing difficulties because everything you post is literally the opposite of what you think it means.

blue eyes preference has proven to exist for 5000 plus years from documenation.

None of the things you are claiming are referenced in the article you just cited.

Moreover, the article you cited demonstrates that racial segregation had a profoundly negative impact on African American children’s self esteem as it led them to view white dolls as more attractive than black ones. This study was used as evidence by the NAACP in Brown vs Board of Education.

The rest of the stuff you cut and pasted from…ummm…wherever…doesn’t support your argument either. In fact, the last paragraph describes attraction to blue eyes as determined by “evolutionary factors, cultural influence, and social status.”

It is unclear to me whether you are even reading the material you are posting or, if so, if you have some cognitive processing difficulties because everything you post is literally the opposite of what you think it means.

Your being obtuse. Google. But lets see blue eye preference has existed at least for 4,000 years. So
the preference for blue eyes has indeed existed for thousands of years, predating colonialism. Research suggests that:

• Ancient civilizations: Blue eyes were considered desirable in ancient cultures, such as the Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans.
• Genetic variation: Blue eyes are a result of genetic variation in the OCA2 and HERC2 genes, which code for eye pigmentation. This variation has been present in European populations for at least 4,000-6,000 years.
• Cultural and social factors: Preferences for blue eyes have been influenced by cultural and social factors, such as associating them with beauty, purity, or nobility, long before colonialism.

The white and blue doll experiment has been used by critical race theory in my opinion in a wrong way, the science center on the lowest level had (has if reopened) a retort to this with the documentation. I am tempted not to do your homework, as its not in good faith but just in case your having a bad day:




Here are some articles and sources that support the argument that fair skin preference predates colonialism:

1. "The Cult of the Fair Skin in Ancient China" by Vivian-Lee Nyitray (Journal of Asian Studies, 2001)
2. "The Beauty of Whiteness: Indian Perspectives" by Roopali Mukherjee (Journal of Women's History, 2006)
3. "Skin Color and Beauty Standards in Ancient Greece and Rome" by Margaret C. Miller (American Journal of Archaeology, 2013)
4. "The History of Skin Whitening in Japan" by Kaoru Takahashi (Journal of Japanese Studies, 2015)
5. "Fair Skin and Beauty in Ancient India: A Study of the Ayurvedic and Sanskrit Texts" by R. H. Singh (Indian Journal of History of Science, 2017)
6. "The Cultural Significance of Fair Skin in Pre-Colonial Africa" by T. O. Beidelman (Africa Today, 1963)
7. "Beauty and the Bleach: Skin Lightening and the Politics of Skin Color in Ghana" by A. B. Ncube (African Studies Review, 2018)

While colonialism may have exacerbated the existing preference for white skin, it did not create it. Instead, colonialism likely exploited a pre-existing cultural or even innate inclination, similar to the widespread desire for height (with some exceptions, such as among pygmy populations). To dismiss this preference as solely rooted in racism oversimplifies the complex origins of this phenomenon, which likely has deep roots in human culture and psychology. Ignoring these foundational aspects of human nature and attributing the preference solely to racism represents a lazy and dogmatic approach to understanding this complex issue

P.S. I'm usually a typo-prone, unedited poster, but I'm making an exception here to ensure clarity.

P.S. I use cut and paste to bypass typing challenges whenever I can . I rely on the reader's acuity to connect the dots and understand the intended meaning . In this case, obviously this was too high a hope.

so again



In essence, the argument is that:

1. Preferences for blue eyes and fair skin have existed for thousands of years, long before colonialism.
2. These preferences have been influenced by a combination of genetic, cultural, and social factors.
3. Colonialism may have exploited and amplified existing biases, but did not create them.
4. Attributing these preferences solely to racism oversimplifies their complex origins and ignores the role of human culture and psychology.

The provided sources and articles support this argument, offering a nuanced understanding of the historical and cultural context of these preferences.

PPS preference does not indicate racism just as men who prefer women as partners are not sexist.

 

[TomFord1980]

How so? Are you of the far right opinion that recognizing reality is dangerous?


Do you spew this racist drivel because you think minorities are incapable of rational thought or is it simply you like to make implied threats on why you see immigration as dangerous?

Are you a white man basket case?

 

[TomFord1980]

One can cherry pick a certain comment or communique and base their beliefs on it.

Not so simple, except for the simple minded.

Here is an example of a survey carried out on people of colour, both sexes some years ago, in the US

The summary was the following:

The coloured females who indicated that they preferred having children with whites, said, it was so because they did not want their children to be killed for being black.

As we all know, mothers will do anything to ensure their children have a good chance of living a good life.

That is only one example, as decisions made in life is not simple, for many, or as we say things are not always just black or white, there are many shades.

White man bad.

 

[basketcase]

Are you a white man basket case?

Yes.

And as I've said before, I saw differences between the way I was treated as a poor white kid and that of my less pale friends.