Do you believe in privilege? White privilege, etc?

[Josephine]

QUOTE="Leimonis, post: 8567466, member: 302564"]
Bigger men is potentially instinctively attractive since the times human lived in caves. But skinny blue eyed women? No way that’s primal.
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Looks like it runs deep. Imagine calling non white / skinny people Toyotas....

 

[Leimonis]

QUOTE="Leimonis, post: 8567466, member: 302564"]
Bigger men is potentially instinctively attractive since the times human lived in caves. But skinny blue eyed women? No way that’s primal.

Looks like it runs deep. Imagine calling non white / skinny people Toyotas....
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that doesn't even make sense. Mercedes is supposed to be objectively better and more car for the money. People are objectively all the same, at least their vaginas are.

 

[Josephine]

No people are not the same. Younger is more attractive than older (all else being equal) for most ppl and can charge more. Life is fair overall. Pricing takes care of any unfairness. Maybe in Communism it would be more unfair but I don't see that here.

But in nowhere in my post was there a complaint of unfairness. You just went on calling me stupid for absolutely no reason when i just made a connection between the guy's post and the sex industry. Then you proceed to call non white people Toyotas lwhich is completely rude and racist. Come on. Not everything is a debate to win when someone make a comments.

I am appalled at how dehumanizing some of you can be.

 

[Leimonis]

This is getting interesting o I want to throw another point.
I believe this “white privilege” is more related to colonialism and imperialism as I don’t think white privilege is exist in Russia or Poland or Eastrn European countries. This term is more relevant to ppl in North America, Britain and most (not all) countries in Europe.

and now we know you've never been in Russia or Poland

 

[massman]

This is getting interesting o I want to throw another point.
I believe this “white privilege” is more related to colonialism and imperialism as I don’t think white privilege is exist in Russia or Poland or Eastrn European countries. This term is more relevant to ppl in North America, Britain and most (not all) countries in Europe.

 

[jeff2]

Generational privilege is huge.

 

[jeff2]

There was no privilege before European dark age. Somewhere around 1800.

Talking about recent history.

 

[dvous11]

Anyone who cries about this privilege stuff needs to realize this reality:
Life isn't fair.
No one cares.
Work harder.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Anyone who cries about this privilege stuff needs to realize this reality:
Life isn't fair.
No one cares.
Work harder.

Most people will probably not admit to that, but that's essentially true

 

[dvous11]

Unfairness and injustice are very different things. I shouldn't have used the word "unfair". I take that back. It is not "unfair". It is UNJUST. Hence the requirement for awareness and push for SOCIAL JUSTICE. Calling injustice, unfairness, is an attempt to minimize the injustice, and that is unjust on its own, and even more of a reason to keep conversation regarding privilege alive.

If a caucasian person moved to India, or China, Nigeria, or any country where the indigenous population isn't white....would anyone over there be trying to ignite a Leftist social justice movement counteracting brown or asian privilege?
No, because this is purely a Western idea, much like many of the Leftist social ideologies.

No One Cares.
Work Harder.
Stop Crying

 

[Knuckle Ball]

If a caucasian person moved to India, or China, Nigeria, or any country where the indigenous population isn't white....would anyone over there be trying to ignite a Leftist social justice movement counteracting brown or asian privilege?

White privileged still exists in many of the countries you are describing. It’s a hold-over from colonialism and the days of the British Empire.

In India, for example, light-coloured skin is still considered a sign of beauty. Being white is still associated with wealth, power, and beauty despite the fact that India kicked the Brits out back in 1947.

The same phenomenon exists in the African American community. After all of the changes that have been achieved over the years in the Civil Rights movement, it is ironic how things like this can persevere…but they do.

No, because this is purely a Western idea, much like many of the Leftist social ideologies.

It’s interesting how much the Far Right share in common with Radical Islam…including a rejection of traditional western values.

No One Cares.
Work Harder.
Stop Crying

Advocating for Social Justice is hard work.

Living in poverty in an oppressive society is hard work.

The fact that you are so upset about this suggests that you do in fact care…and you are pretty mad about it…Good.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

Anyone who cries about this privilege stuff needs to realize this reality:
Life isn't fair.
No one cares.
Work harder.

Advocating for Social Justice and working hard are not mutually exclusive; they kinda go together.

 

[jsanchez]

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In India, for example, light-coloured skin is still considered a sign of beauty. Being white is still associated with wealth, power, and beauty despite the fact that India kicked the Brits out back in 1947.

Not just India. Check out posts on the Asian forum, where numbnut posters often ask whether the reviewed sp
is fair skinned or not, and some will "deduct" points accordingly.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

Not just India. Check out posts on the Asian forum, where numbnut posters often ask whether the reviewed sp
is fair skinned or not, and some will "deduct" points accordingly.

Yes…and it will be Asian men who want fair-skinned Asian women. White privilege is pervasive.

 

[jsanchez]

Yes…and it will be Asian men who want fair-skinned Asian women. White privilege is pervasive.

...Infact white people are often times considered rich, and fair skin is considered a beauty standard (much like in Korea too). These also ensure white people have privilege even in brown countries like India.
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Which begs the question. Who perpetuates it?
From my experience, it's none other than non-whites themselves.

You see it at the family level especially in mixed families, as kids, in school, in non-white or mixed cultures (in my experience).
It's the darker skinned folks themselves who are guilty of favoring the fair skinned boy or girl in the family or in the classroom
or who reflexively think a not-so-easy-on-the-eyes blonde is "attractive" just because.

So what's my point? don't blame whitey

 

[Knuckle Ball]

Which begs the question. Who perpetuates it?
From my experience, it's none other than non-whites themselves.

You see it at the family level especially in mixed families, as kids, in school, in non-white or mixed cultures (in my experience).
It's the darker skinned folks themselves who are guilty of favoring the fair skinned boy or girl in the family or in the classroom
or who reflexively think a not-so-easy-on-the-eyes blonde is "attractive" just because.

So what's my point? don't blame whitey

People can blame whomever they wish; for purposes of this discussion, though, I believe it’s evident that White Privilege is indeed a real thing.

 

[anon1]

Yes…and it will be Asian men who want fair-skinned Asian women. White privilege is pervasive.

There is valid reasoning for fair skin attraction.
In agrarian societies an unsuntanned complexion shows the person is of high value and does not have to labour in the fields. A person who is provided for in terms of food and shelter.
Unlike modern mores where a tanned person implies leisure time to bask.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

There is valid reasoning for fair skin attraction.
In agrarian societies an unsuntanned complexion shows the person is of high value and does not have to labour in the fields. A person who is provided for in terms of food and shelter.
Unlike modern mores where a tanned person implies leisure time to bask.

Yes… Having a sun tan became a sign of beauty in white US/Canadian culture in the early 1960’s with the advent of modern commercial air travel. People from the East Coast who were wealthy enough to fly down to Florida for a vacation could display their wealth by coming back to NYC in the middle of the winter with a sun tan.

 

[jeff2]

Yes… Having a sun tan became a sign of beauty in white US/Canadian culture in the early 1960’s with the advent of modern commercial air travel. People from the East Coast who were wealthy enough to fly down to Florida for a vacation could display their wealth by coming back to NYC in the middle of the winter with a sun tan.

A nice treat if they did not end up with skin cancer.

 

[kherg007]

There is valid reasoning for fair skin attraction.
In agrarian societies an unsuntanned complexion shows the person is of high value and does not have to labour in the fields. A person who is provided for in terms of food and shelter.
Unlike modern mores where a tanned person implies leisure time to bask.

There is that in the black community. Funny the ebony ladies will say the complexion of the bloke not a big deal for them, but every single ebony lady i know or have dated says the black blokes very much care about the lighter complexions and will favour the lighter ladies. There was a status element in the Caribbean along the lines above and you'll see the lighter skinned ladies walk around with an umbrella to keep the sun off them.