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Do you believe in privilege? White privilege, etc?

Do you believe privilege exists?

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Leimonis

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This is getting interesting o I want to throw another point.
I believe this “white privilege” is more related to colonialism and imperialism as I don’t think white privilege is exist in Russia or Poland or Eastrn European countries. This term is more relevant to ppl in North America, Britain and most (not all) countries in Europe.
and now we know you've never been in Russia or Poland :)
 
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massman

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This is getting interesting o I want to throw another point.
I believe this “white privilege” is more related to colonialism and imperialism as I don’t think white privilege is exist in Russia or Poland or Eastrn European countries. This term is more relevant to ppl in North America, Britain and most (not all) countries in Europe.
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Phil C. McNasty

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Anyone who cries about this privilege stuff needs to realize this reality:
Life isn't fair.
No one cares.
Work harder.
Most people will probably not admit to that, but that's essentially true
 

dvous11

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Unfairness and injustice are very different things. I shouldn't have used the word "unfair". I take that back. It is not "unfair". It is UNJUST. Hence the requirement for awareness and push for SOCIAL JUSTICE. Calling injustice, unfairness, is an attempt to minimize the injustice, and that is unjust on its own, and even more of a reason to keep conversation regarding privilege alive.
If a caucasian person moved to India, or China, Nigeria, or any country where the indigenous population isn't white....would anyone over there be trying to ignite a Leftist social justice movement counteracting brown or asian privilege?
No, because this is purely a Western idea, much like many of the Leftist social ideologies.

No One Cares.
Work Harder.
Stop Crying :)
 

Knuckle Ball

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If a caucasian person moved to India, or China, Nigeria, or any country where the indigenous population isn't white....would anyone over there be trying to ignite a Leftist social justice movement counteracting brown or asian privilege?
White privileged still exists in many of the countries you are describing. It’s a hold-over from colonialism and the days of the British Empire.

In India, for example, light-coloured skin is still considered a sign of beauty. Being white is still associated with wealth, power, and beauty despite the fact that India kicked the Brits out back in 1947.

The same phenomenon exists in the African American community. After all of the changes that have been achieved over the years in the Civil Rights movement, it is ironic how things like this can persevere…but they do.



No, because this is purely a Western idea, much like many of the Leftist social ideologies.
It’s interesting how much the Far Right share in common with Radical Islam…including a rejection of traditional western values.

No One Cares.
Work Harder.
Stop Crying :)
Advocating for Social Justice is hard work.

Living in poverty in an oppressive society is hard work.

The fact that you are so upset about this suggests that you do in fact care…and you are pretty mad about it…Good.
 

jsanchez

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T.O.
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In India, for example, light-coloured skin is still considered a sign of beauty. Being white is still associated with wealth, power, and beauty despite the fact that India kicked the Brits out back in 1947.
Not just India. Check out posts on the Asian forum, where numbnut posters often ask whether the reviewed sp
is fair skinned or not, and some will "deduct" points accordingly.
 

Knuckle Ball

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Not just India. Check out posts on the Asian forum, where numbnut posters often ask whether the reviewed sp
is fair skinned or not, and some will "deduct" points accordingly.
Yes…and it will be Asian men who want fair-skinned Asian women. White privilege is pervasive.
 
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jsanchez

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Yes…and it will be Asian men who want fair-skinned Asian women. White privilege is pervasive.
...Infact white people are often times considered rich, and fair skin is considered a beauty standard (much like in Korea too). These also ensure white people have privilege even in brown countries like India.
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Which begs the question. Who perpetuates it?
From my experience, it's none other than non-whites themselves.

You see it at the family level especially in mixed families, as kids, in school, in non-white or mixed cultures (in my experience).
It's the darker skinned folks themselves who are guilty of favoring the fair skinned boy or girl in the family or in the classroom
or who reflexively think a not-so-easy-on-the-eyes blonde is "attractive" just because.

So what's my point? don't blame whitey :D
 
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Knuckle Ball

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Which begs the question. Who perpetuates it?
From my experience, it's none other than non-whites themselves.

You see it at the family level especially in mixed families, as kids, in school, in non-white or mixed cultures (in my experience).
It's the darker skinned folks themselves who are guilty of favoring the fair skinned boy or girl in the family or in the classroom
or who reflexively think a not-so-easy-on-the-eyes blonde is "attractive" just because.

So what's my point? don't blame whitey :D
People can blame whomever they wish; for purposes of this discussion, though, I believe it’s evident that White Privilege is indeed a real thing.
 
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anon1

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Yes…and it will be Asian men who want fair-skinned Asian women. White privilege is pervasive.
There is valid reasoning for fair skin attraction.
In agrarian societies an unsuntanned complexion shows the person is of high value and does not have to labour in the fields. A person who is provided for in terms of food and shelter.
Unlike modern mores where a tanned person implies leisure time to bask.
 
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Knuckle Ball

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There is valid reasoning for fair skin attraction.
In agrarian societies an unsuntanned complexion shows the person is of high value and does not have to labour in the fields. A person who is provided for in terms of food and shelter.
Unlike modern mores where a tanned person implies leisure time to bask.
Yes… Having a sun tan became a sign of beauty in white US/Canadian culture in the early 1960’s with the advent of modern commercial air travel. People from the East Coast who were wealthy enough to fly down to Florida for a vacation could display their wealth by coming back to NYC in the middle of the winter with a sun tan.
 
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jeff2

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Yes… Having a sun tan became a sign of beauty in white US/Canadian culture in the early 1960’s with the advent of modern commercial air travel. People from the East Coast who were wealthy enough to fly down to Florida for a vacation could display their wealth by coming back to NYC in the middle of the winter with a sun tan.
A nice treat if they did not end up with skin cancer.
 

kherg007

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There is valid reasoning for fair skin attraction.
In agrarian societies an unsuntanned complexion shows the person is of high value and does not have to labour in the fields. A person who is provided for in terms of food and shelter.
Unlike modern mores where a tanned person implies leisure time to bask.
There is that in the black community. Funny the ebony ladies will say the complexion of the bloke not a big deal for them, but every single ebony lady i know or have dated says the black blokes very much care about the lighter complexions and will favour the lighter ladies. There was a status element in the Caribbean along the lines above and you'll see the lighter skinned ladies walk around with an umbrella to keep the sun off them.
 
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Robert Mugabe

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I got into a fight with a woman at work who was in love the the Royals. She said that Megan Markle didn't look all that black so it was no big deal. Nobody should be upset. I couldn't get her to see that was in any way racist.
I had a girlfriend from Northern China who was divorced from a guy from Hong Kong. They had a cute little boy together. The dad had issues with the boy because he said his skin was too dark. He preferred white skinned Chinese kids. Go figure. The kid was/ is a handsome little guy.
 

Abjectpatient

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Simply noticing a lot of SPs won't openly see non-White men, but explicitly don't state it, tells you enough that White privileged is a thing. But, every white, black, brown, or asian girl I've ever seen has been on board on the spot and never had a problem with me being White.
 
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basketcase

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White privilege was a made up thing about an essay about some backpack written in the 90s. its like crystals, or astrology...
...Except real.

It is stupid to pretend that simply being white gives one a great life but it does take away some barriers others face. As I've pointed out many times, learning to speak 'properly' and dress appropriately makes poverty and other disadvantages white guys have invisible to those around you.
 
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