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Frankfooter

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You call for peace in Israel because you've admitted that:

1)You hate Zionists
2)You believe that all Palestinians are indigenous and deserve full human rights.
Corrected your post, you keep making idiotic mistakes about my views.

How many times have you said sanctions are going to cripple Israel?
How many times have you said Israel is a pariah state?
How many times have you said that the US will stop supporting Israel?
How many times have you said that AIPAC will be outlawed?
 

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You left out the part that says that what they published was simply a, and I quote, correspondence from the authors, who are clearly biased. Calling it a genocide, when the UN has made no such declaration, is proof of that. As well, if you read what they wrote they never assessed blame to Israel. It is simply a number, flawed as it may be.

They are a peer-review publication. They did not do a peer-review assessment of the opinion piece, not has any other publication. That is because it is trash.
This post is an accurate assessment of the Lancet piece...But you watch how the pro-Hamas crowd is going to beat this to death. Pun intended.
 

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Oh….that Zionist courage is a wonderful thing to behold.

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U.S. to again ship 500-pound bombs to Israel, reversing suspension
The Biden administration will resume sending large bombs to Israel that had been held up since May amid concerns about the Rafah invasion. But 2,000-pound bombs are still under review.

By John Hudson
July 10, 2024 at 6:11 p.m. EDT

Smoke rises following an Israeli airstrike in the central Gaza Strip on Wednesday. (Abdel Kareem Hana/AP)

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The United States is resuming a shipment of 500-pound bombs to Israel that had been held up since May, when the Biden administration suspended delivery of two types of large, airdropped weapons amid concerns about the ballooning scale of civilian casualties in Gaza, said U.S. officials familiar with the matter.


The paused delivery included 1,800 2,000-pound bombs, which remain on hold, U.S. officials said. But the supply of 1,700 500-pound bombs will move forward.

The U.S. decision followed a pressure campaign by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and pro-Israel lobbyists in the United States, including the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, demanding the resumption of all weapons shipments regardless of their lethality.

Despite the pressure campaign and initial hold, the U.S. officials said the 500-pound bombs were never a serious concern for the Biden administration.


“Because of how these shipments are put together, other munitions may sometimes be co-mingled. That’s what happened here with the 500-lb bombs, since our main concern had been and remains the potential use of 2,000-lb bombs in Rafah and elsewhere in Gaza,” said a U.S. official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive arms deliveries.
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While the tempo of Israel’s military campaign in Gaza has slowed somewhat, Israeli strikes continue to be associated with mass-casualty events, including a strike Tuesday at a school sheltering displaced Palestinians near Khan Younis that killed at least 25 people and wounded 50 more, according to Gaza’s Health Ministry.

Israel said the airstrike targeted Hamas fighters.
The decision to partially lift the pause in U.S. shipments was first reported by Israel’s Channel 12.


The United States originally suspended the provision of large bombs as a “shot across the bow” and a serious indication of U.S. concern about Netanyahu’s planned invasion of the southern Gaza city of Rafah, where more than 1 million Palestinians were sheltering.
President Biden had said a major operation there would cross a “red line,” triggering a suspension of U.S. support. U.S. officials later said Israel’s operations there never crossed the line, including a May 26 incident in which at least 46 Palestinians were killed during an Israeli bombing of the Tal al-Sultan tent camp.

U.S. officials said the offensive in Rafah was carried out with much more precision than Israel’s other operations in Khan Younis and Gaza City. Last week, the Israel Defense Forces brought a large group of journalists to tour parts of Rafah for the first time. Reporters described the city as “decimated” and largely empty.
Janet Abou-Elias, a research fellow at the Center for International Policy, a Washington-based think tank, said the destructive power of 500-pound bombs should not be taken lightly. “In Gaza’s densely populated areas, the difference in the destructive impact between a 500-pound and a 2,000-pound bomb is negligible, both causing immense destruction and civilian casualties,” she said.

Israel-Gaza war
The Israel-Gaza war has gone on for months, and tensions have spilled into the surrounding Middle East region.
The war: On Oct. 7, Hamas militants launched an unprecedented cross-border attack on Israel that included the taking of civilian hostages at a music festival. (See photos and videos of how the deadly assault unfolded). Israel declared war on Hamas in response, launching a ground invasion that fueled the biggest displacement in the region since Israel’s creation in 1948.
Gaza crisis: In the Gaza Strip, Israel has waged one of this century’s most destructive wars, killing tens of thousands and plunging at least half of the population into “famine-like conditions.” For months, Israel has resisted pressure from Western allies to allow more humanitarian aid into the enclave.
U.S. involvement: Despite tensions between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and some U.S. politicians, including President Biden, the United St
 
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Frankfooter

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This post is an accurate assessment of the Lancet piece...But you watch how the pro-Hamas crowd is going to beat this to death. Pun intended.
The Lance is trustworthy.
You are not.

Why should anyone trust your assessment over the authors?

Its really quite sad that you think dropping the equivalent of 4 Hiroshimas on an area 1/3 the size couldn't produce numbers of dead this high.
Bodies are counted in hospitals and Israel has destroyed all the hospitals.
Bodies are counted by journalists and Israel kills journalists.
Bodies are counted by UN workers and Israel has killed over 200 UN.

There are tens of thousands of missing children, all buried in the rubble and in pieces too small to count.
186,000 dead is likely conservative.

 
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whynot888

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How do you come to that conclusion when all I call for is a ceasefire and both sides to be investigated and charged?
Because calling for a ceasefire has not worked and will not unless Hamas returns the hostages. Have you ever thought, maybe if Hamas returned the hostages Israel will withdraw, then peacefully negotiate the next steps? At this stage there is no such thing as Apartheid or what ever your bitching about because it's irrelevant now, people are dying and you need that to stop first. If Hamas decides to return the hostages and Israel continues to shell the Palestinians, shame on them.
 

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Because calling for a ceasefire has not worked and will not unless Hamas returns the hostages. Have you ever thought, maybe if Hamas returned the hostages Israel will withdraw, then peacefully negotiate the next steps? At this stage there is no such thing as Apartheid or what ever your bitching about because it's irrelevant now, people are dying and you need that to stop first. If Hamas decides to return the hostages and Israel continues to shell the Palestinians, shame on them.
Netanyahu is out for genocide regardless, he doesn't care shit about the hostages.
He can't stop the attack or he'll be turfed from office.

He won't even agree to a ceasefire where Hamas returned the hostages without allowing him to return to killing Palestinians.
 

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Corrected your post, you keep making idiotic mistakes about my views.
Another admission that you resort to lying when you can't win an argument.

Yet you claim that you never lie. Whether or not anyone else lies is irrelevant, Geno. You are a liar.
 

shack

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One of the main authors is an Israeli health expert,
An Arab-Israeli?
You are obviously upset when someone is exposing your lies, Geno.

Who cares what you think, we care what the Lancet says.
Geno, the Lancet DID NOT say that. It was a comment to the Lancet and they reported it but did not vouch for its' validity.
The Lancet does peer review of scientific/medical studies. This has nothing to do with science or medicine. The authors are doctors and are out of their field when discussing casualties of war. Keep lying Geno, because all of your lies get exposed.

The Lancet thinks Israel has killed at least 186,000 Palestinians.
As shown above, Geno that is total BS. The Lancet DOES NOT think that at all. And show us where the actual authors say that Israel did the killing. Their study simply reported their opinion on how many people they estimate were killed without attributing any blame whatsoever. They accepted Hamas' inflated stats and then arbitrarily quadrupled them. Actually they are saying that Hamas is at least equally to blame.

You are a loathsome serial liar, Geno..
 
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U.S. to again ship 500-pound bombs to Israel, reversing suspension
The Biden administration will resume sending large bombs to Israel that had been held up since May amid concerns about the Rafah invasion. But 2,000-pound bombs are still under review.
That is false. There's no hypocrisy at all. They were only ever talking about only the 2,000 pound bombs.
 

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Netanyahu is out for genocide regardless, he doesn't care shit about the hostages.
Even if that were true, Geno, it does not mean that Hamas is allowed to blatantly disobey the UN demand to immediately and unconditionally return the civilian hostages from Oct.7
And BTW, Israel took no civilian hostages on that date or after. They only took Hamas POWs.
 
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Frankfooter

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Another admission that you resort to lying when you can't win an argument.

Yet you claim that you never lie. Whether or not anyone else lies is irrelevant, Geno. You are a liar.
Please see a doctor and get checked for alzheimer's.
 
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Frankfooter

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An Arab-Israeli?
You are obviously upset when someone is exposing your lies, Geno.
Oh, so you immediately won't take the work of a Palestinians.
How incredibly and obviously, racist of you.

Geno, the Lancet DID NOT say that. It was a comment to the Lancet and they reported it but did not vouch for its' validity.
The Lancet does peer review of scientific/medical studies. This has nothing to do with science or medicine. The authors are doctors and are out of their field when discussing casualties of war. Keep lying Geno, because all of your lies get exposed.
Wrong and wrong headed.
Nobody cares what you say, you just want to shut down reporting of reality.
The Lancet is trustworthy, you are not.
186,000 Palestinians have likely been killed by zionists.


As shown above, Geno that is total BS. The Lancet DOES NOT think that at all. And show us where the actual authors say that Israel did the killing. Their study simply reported their opinion on how many people they estimate were killed without attributing any blame whatsoever. They accepted Hamas' inflated stats and then arbitrarily quadrupled them. Actually they are saying that Hamas is at least equally to blame.

You are a loathsome serial liar, Geno..
You think it was Putin who's been bombing the shit out of Gaza, Shazi?
Own it, you and team zionist have been calling for and celebrating this genocide.
This is what you've been wanting for years.

 
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Even if that were true, Geno, it does not mean that Hamas and Israel is allowed to blatantly disobey the UN demand to immediately and unconditionally return the civilian hostages from Oct.7
And BTW, Israel took no civilian hostages on that date or after. They only took Hamas POWs.
Post corrected yet again, as you lie about what the UN says.
Israel has taken about 8000 Palestinian prisoners as hostages.

This is also what the UN says, which you now admit is correct as you back the UN here.
Every time you mention the UN you will get these posts.


 
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whynot888

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No, shame on Israel for committing genocide.
The hostages have nothing to do with it.
I thought so...YOUR A FRAUD!
You never cared about the Palestinian people at all, you use the term genocide as an excuse to hurt Israel. If freeing the hostage would stop the killing you still would not agree to it and that is what you indirectly said above.
Why do you hate Pali's so much? You would let them die for your hatred of Jews. Was your old employer a Jew and he sexual abused you or some shit?
 
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