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GAZA GENOCIDE: BRITISH JOURNAL "LANCET" BODY COUNT: 186,000 OR EVEN MORE.

Biden mutters lies about "de-escalation" while keeping the bombs-supply-line well primed.

Counting the dead in Gaza: difficult but essential
Published:July 05, 2024DOI:https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(24)01169-3





By June 19, 2024, 37 396 people had been killed in the Gaza Strip since the attack by Hamas and the Israeli invasion in October, 2023, according to the Gaza Health Ministry, as reported by the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.
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The Ministry's figures have been contested by the Israeli authorities, although they have been accepted as accurate by Israeli intelligence services,
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the UN, and WHO. These data are supported by independent analyses, comparing changes in the number of deaths of UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) staff with those reported by the Ministry,
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which found claims of data fabrication implausible.
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Collecting data is becoming increasingly difficult for the Gaza Health Ministry due to the destruction of much of the infrastructure.
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The Ministry has had to augment its usual reporting, based on people dying in its hospitals or brought in dead, with information from reliable media sources and first responders. This change has inevitably degraded the detailed data recorded previously. Consequently, the Gaza Health Ministry now reports separately the number of unidentified bodies among the total death toll. As of May 10, 2024, 30% of the 35 091 deaths were unidentified.
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Some officials and news agencies have used this development, designed to improve data quality, to undermine the veracity of the data. However, the number of reported deaths is likely an underestimate. The non-governmental organisation Airwars undertakes detailed assessments of incidents in the Gaza Strip and often finds that not all names of identifiable victims are included in the Ministry's list.
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Furthermore, the UN estimates that, by Feb 29, 2024, 35% of buildings in the Gaza Strip had been destroyed,
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so the number of bodies still buried in the rubble is likely substantial, with estimates of more than 10 000.
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Armed conflicts have indirect health implications beyond the direct harm from violence. Even if the conflict ends immediately, there will continue to be many indirect deaths in the coming months and years from causes such as reproductive, communicable, and non-communicable diseases. The total death toll is expected to be large given the intensity of this conflict; destroyed health-care infrastructure; severe shortages of food, water, and shelter; the population's inability to flee to safe places; and the loss of funding to UNRWA, one of the very few humanitarian organisations still active in the Gaza Strip.
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In recent conflicts, such indirect deaths range from three to 15 times the number of direct deaths. Applying a conservative estimate of four indirect deaths per one direct death
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to the 37 396 deaths reported, it is not implausible to estimate that up to 186 000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza. Using the 2022 Gaza Strip population estimate of 2 375 259, this would translate to 7·9% of the total population in the Gaza Strip. A report from Feb 7, 2024, at the time when the direct death toll was 28 000, estimated that without a ceasefire there would be between 58 260 deaths (without an epidemic or escalation) and 85 750 deaths (if both occurred) by Aug 6, 2024.
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An immediate and urgent ceasefire in the Gaza Strip is essential, accompanied by measures to enable the distribution of medical supplies, food, clean water, and other resources for basic human needs. At the same time, there is a need to record the scale and nature of suffering in this conflict. Documenting the true scale is crucial for ensuring historical accountability and acknowledging the full cost of the war. It is also a legal requirement. The interim measures set out by the International Court of Justice in January, 2024, require Israel to “take effective measures to prevent the destruction and ensure the preservation of evidence related to allegations of acts within the scope of … the Genocide Convention”.
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The Gaza Health Ministry is the only organisation counting the dead. Furthermore, these data will be crucial for post-war recovery, restoring infrastructure, and planning humanitarian aid.
MM is a member of the editorial board of the Israel Journal of Health Policy Research and of the International Advisory Committee of the Israel National Institute for Health Policy Research. MM was co-chair of the Institute's 2016 6th International Jerusalem Conference on Health Policy, but writes in a personal capacity. He also collaborates with researchers in Israel, Palestine, and Lebanon. RK and SY declare no competing interests. The authors would like to acknowledge study team members Shofiqul Islam and Safa Noreen for their contribution to collecting and managing the data for this Correspondence.
Editorial note: The Lancet Group takes a neutral position with respect to territorial claims in published text and institutional affiliations.
This online publication has been corrected. The corrected version first appeared at thelancet.com on July 10, 2024
 

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You call for the genocide of Jews in Israel because you've admitted that:

1)You hate Zionists
2)You believe that all of the Jews in Israel are Zionists.
 

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Frankfooter said:
Easy.
Ceasefire and end the genocide.



The UN said to release the hostages unconditionally. Why are you putting on conditions?

You are shitting in the face of what the UN says. You have no right to mention the UN again.
 

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How many elections have you declared that the conservatives are going beat Trudeau now?
How many times have you said sanctions are going to cripple Israel?
How many times have you said Israel is a pariah state?
How many times have you said that the US will stop supporting Israel?
How many times have you said that AIPAC will be outlawed?
 

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GAZA GENOCIDE: BRITISH JOURNAL "LANCET"

Published:July 05, 2024DOI:https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(24)01169-3
You left out the part that says that what they published was simply a, and I quote, correspondence from the authors, who are clearly biased. Calling it a genocide, when the UN has made no such declaration, is proof of that. As well, if you read what they wrote they never assessed blame to Israel. It is simply a number, flawed as it may be.

They are a peer-review publication. They did not do a peer-review assessment of the opinion piece, not has any other publication. That is because it is trash.
 
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How many elections have you declared that the conservatives are going beat Trudeau now?
Blah blah blah blah...How many more deaths until your stubborn ass admits, releasing the hostages is the only option before a ceasefire happens?
 

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You call for peace in Israel because you've admitted that:

1)You hate Zionists
2)You believe that all Palestinians are indigenous and deserve full human rights.
Corrected your post, you keep making idiotic mistakes about my views.

How many times have you said sanctions are going to cripple Israel?
How many times have you said Israel is a pariah state?
How many times have you said that the US will stop supporting Israel?
How many times have you said that AIPAC will be outlawed?
 

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You left out the part that says that what they published was simply a, and I quote, correspondence from the authors, who are clearly biased. Calling it a genocide, when the UN has made no such declaration, is proof of that. As well, if you read what they wrote they never assessed blame to Israel. It is simply a number, flawed as it may be.

They are a peer-review publication. They did not do a peer-review assessment of the opinion piece, not has any other publication. That is because it is trash.
This post is an accurate assessment of the Lancet piece...But you watch how the pro-Hamas crowd is going to beat this to death. Pun intended.
 

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Oh….that Zionist courage is a wonderful thing to behold.

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U.S. to again ship 500-pound bombs to Israel, reversing suspension
The Biden administration will resume sending large bombs to Israel that had been held up since May amid concerns about the Rafah invasion. But 2,000-pound bombs are still under review.

By John Hudson
July 10, 2024 at 6:11 p.m. EDT

Smoke rises following an Israeli airstrike in the central Gaza Strip on Wednesday. (Abdel Kareem Hana/AP)

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The United States is resuming a shipment of 500-pound bombs to Israel that had been held up since May, when the Biden administration suspended delivery of two types of large, airdropped weapons amid concerns about the ballooning scale of civilian casualties in Gaza, said U.S. officials familiar with the matter.


The paused delivery included 1,800 2,000-pound bombs, which remain on hold, U.S. officials said. But the supply of 1,700 500-pound bombs will move forward.

The U.S. decision followed a pressure campaign by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and pro-Israel lobbyists in the United States, including the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, demanding the resumption of all weapons shipments regardless of their lethality.

Despite the pressure campaign and initial hold, the U.S. officials said the 500-pound bombs were never a serious concern for the Biden administration.


“Because of how these shipments are put together, other munitions may sometimes be co-mingled. That’s what happened here with the 500-lb bombs, since our main concern had been and remains the potential use of 2,000-lb bombs in Rafah and elsewhere in Gaza,” said a U.S. official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive arms deliveries.
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While the tempo of Israel’s military campaign in Gaza has slowed somewhat, Israeli strikes continue to be associated with mass-casualty events, including a strike Tuesday at a school sheltering displaced Palestinians near Khan Younis that killed at least 25 people and wounded 50 more, according to Gaza’s Health Ministry.

Israel said the airstrike targeted Hamas fighters.
The decision to partially lift the pause in U.S. shipments was first reported by Israel’s Channel 12.


The United States originally suspended the provision of large bombs as a “shot across the bow” and a serious indication of U.S. concern about Netanyahu’s planned invasion of the southern Gaza city of Rafah, where more than 1 million Palestinians were sheltering.
President Biden had said a major operation there would cross a “red line,” triggering a suspension of U.S. support. U.S. officials later said Israel’s operations there never crossed the line, including a May 26 incident in which at least 46 Palestinians were killed during an Israeli bombing of the Tal al-Sultan tent camp.

U.S. officials said the offensive in Rafah was carried out with much more precision than Israel’s other operations in Khan Younis and Gaza City. Last week, the Israel Defense Forces brought a large group of journalists to tour parts of Rafah for the first time. Reporters described the city as “decimated” and largely empty.
Janet Abou-Elias, a research fellow at the Center for International Policy, a Washington-based think tank, said the destructive power of 500-pound bombs should not be taken lightly. “In Gaza’s densely populated areas, the difference in the destructive impact between a 500-pound and a 2,000-pound bomb is negligible, both causing immense destruction and civilian casualties,” she said.

Israel-Gaza war
The Israel-Gaza war has gone on for months, and tensions have spilled into the surrounding Middle East region.
The war: On Oct. 7, Hamas militants launched an unprecedented cross-border attack on Israel that included the taking of civilian hostages at a music festival. (See photos and videos of how the deadly assault unfolded). Israel declared war on Hamas in response, launching a ground invasion that fueled the biggest displacement in the region since Israel’s creation in 1948.
Gaza crisis: In the Gaza Strip, Israel has waged one of this century’s most destructive wars, killing tens of thousands and plunging at least half of the population into “famine-like conditions.” For months, Israel has resisted pressure from Western allies to allow more humanitarian aid into the enclave.
U.S. involvement: Despite tensions between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and some U.S. politicians, including President Biden, the United St
 
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This post is an accurate assessment of the Lancet piece...But you watch how the pro-Hamas crowd is going to beat this to death. Pun intended.
The Lance is trustworthy.
You are not.

Why should anyone trust your assessment over the authors?

Its really quite sad that you think dropping the equivalent of 4 Hiroshimas on an area 1/3 the size couldn't produce numbers of dead this high.
Bodies are counted in hospitals and Israel has destroyed all the hospitals.
Bodies are counted by journalists and Israel kills journalists.
Bodies are counted by UN workers and Israel has killed over 200 UN.

There are tens of thousands of missing children, all buried in the rubble and in pieces too small to count.
186,000 dead is likely conservative.

 
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