Unlike their enemies, who get weapons for free at someone else's expense.
Munk Debate on Zionism
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POS Nation continues to make the case for its own demise
I mean BC is no Steel Panther, but their first to albums Bodycount and Born Dead were pretty good and even afterword they have some good tunes.Geno, I thought that I was the worst. You've always liked bc the best.
Yes, and when the indigenous population are not considered 'citizens' and instead are internationally recognized as 'stateless refugees' living on their own land, then its apartheid.
Denying Palestinians citizenship is proof of apartheid, Shazi.
Killing the entire native population won't solve your problems, Shazi.
Neither will recreating Auschwitz for 2 million people.
The UN also said Israel has to cease fire, Shazi.
The ICJ also ordered Israel to prevent the killing of all Palestinians in Gaza, allow all aid through and charge those for inciting genocide.
Inciting genocide carries a 5 year sentence in Canada, by the way.
And yet here you are still inciting genocide.
Israel has clearly failed to obey the UN as well.
Listen Joe (or whoever replaces you) if you want a chance
The are lyrical geniuses and understand that Death to all Butt Metal is the only way to go.
Every sovereign country in the world has the autonomy to decide on who they wish to bestow citizenship.
It's not apartheid. It's international law.
The way South Africa used their autonomy to declare that black South Africans weren't citizens?
Bantu Homelands Citizenship Act, 1970 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Do you prefer to call the new plans concentration camps or banthustans?
Indeed. Most Gulf States have strict laws on who can or cannot be a citizen. They don't bullshit the world by calling themselves "democracies".
Don't change the topic.
You are agreeing that the UN told Hamas to return the hostages, unconditionally. That means that what Israel does is irrelevant to Hamas returning the hostages. It is NOT a condition for disobeying the order. Orders to Hamas are independent of orders to Israel. They are not linked. So, let's talk about Hamas first and then we'll talk about Israel.
Hamas has not returned the hostages from Oct.7. First, you condemn Hamas for disobeying the UN orders. After that, Israel.
How many times can you be so wrong? From Wiki:
Segregation of coloured voters In 1951 Parliament passed the Separate Representation of Voters Act, which removed coloured voters from the common voters roll
This is documented history and it is contrary to your claims. You are clearly ignorant in regards to this history. Education is more important than your self-admitted anti-Semitism if you want to win a debate on the topic.
You now know that this is wrong. Unlike the blacks in S. Africa, Palestinians have NEVER had the right to vote and were NEVER citizens. Those things never existed. As the old blues men used to sing, "You can't lose what you ain't never had."
Totally different situations as per your newfound education. Hence there is no apartheid against certain/Arab Israeli citizens.
All I have to show is that the UN passed a resolution in 1963 against S. African apartheid, which I've previously done. They have not done so with Israel. If the UN felt Israel was guilty of apartheid, history (there's that inconvenient word for you) shows that they would pass a resolution saying so.
More than one topic at a time is too much for you. We were already talking about apartheid and now you're throwing in genocide. As such genocide is irrelevant for this discussion. Don't be like Geno.
You never fail to amaze me how flawed and adolescent your arguments are. I'm not going to lower myself to your level and embarrass myself the way you do to yourself. My opinion of you is backed up by at least a handful of intelligent, educated and respected posters. I can understand why you don't want to list Amoeba and Geno as proof of your deficit in intellect, grasp of logic and being factually accurate.
History shows that blacks had a vote but it was taken away by apartheid. You need to change history to prove your point.
Seriously? That is idiotic.
The actual reason that they don't called themselves democracies is because they are monarchies. Hahahahahaha.
That is the most STOOPID statement I've ever read. But thanks for the laugh and reaffirming my statement that every sovereign state has the right to decide who becomes citizens and that Israel has the same right. You agree that Geno's claim that Israel MUST bestow citizenship on Palis/Gazans is patently false.
Its the same subject, Shazi.
Why on earth would you think only one side has to abide by the UNSC resolutions?
Hamas isn't even a state or UN member, the UN has no jurisdiction on them.
Israel is a member and as such is the party that must abide by UNSC resolutions.
As a member they must also abide by ICJ provisional measures.
Even so, Hamas sent in a letter saying they'd abide and Israel has refused to do so.
Instead, Netanyahu declared he's more interested in some kind of final solution.
Netanyahu says he won't agree to a deal that ends the war in Gaza, testing the latest truce proposal
His latest comments come at a sensitive time and could represent another setback for mediators trying to end the war.
apnews.com
Israel has the choice to remain apartheid just as the world had a choice in sanctioning South Africa to end apartheid.
Israel had a choice to commit genocide and continue the occupation.
You just have to accept the consequences of turning zionism into the new nazis.
I didn't say that. They are 2 different countries and take different actions and as such, they require different commentaries. There are many times that you've discussed Israel without mentioning Hamas.
What is your commentary on Hamas as a single entity defying UN orders? Or are you too afraid to criticize them? (Actually, that's a rhetorical question. We know you won't. You do not have the integrity to tell the truth.)
Which means that they can kill and rape with impunity. That also shows that your calls to send both sides to the ICJ is just bullshit. Sending Hamas to court means nothing.
You are never honest and every post/tweet/picture are fraudulent. You continually lie and I just proved it about your call to send Hamas to court.
Yes, the UN lead that charge by passing the 1963 resolution against S. African apartheid.
Why aren't they doing that now with Israel? Until they do so this proves that your claims of Israeli apartheid are bullshit. You need to start being honest.
