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basketcase

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Thats out of the history books.
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Yes, your anti-immigrant talking points are straight out of the history books. Your Jew hatred has you believing that Jews can't be legitimate immigrants and has you ignoring the million or so Ottoman Jews that were chased from their homes by Arab antisemitism.
 

basketcase

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Canada provides equal rights and citizenship to indigeneous peoples, ...
Bullshit. Canada continues to take land from Indigenous and subject them to systemic discrimination. We have BEGUN to come to terms with our actions but that systemic oppression hasn't changed just because there are land acknowledgements at some events. You just don't want to admit that you are a colonial oppressor.

You claim that The Ottomans and Brits couldn't legitimize any immigration because they were not determined by the indigenous people. So which Indigenous groups invited you to Canada?



p.s. I'm sure you can find some Canadians who think South Asians are colonizing parts of the GTA.
 

Kautilya

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Bullshit. Canada continues to take land from Indigenous and subject them to systemic discrimination. We have BEGUN to come to terms with our actions but that systemic oppression hasn't changed just because there are land acknowledgements at some events. You just don't want to admit that you are a colonial oppressor.

You claim that The Ottomans and Brits couldn't legitimize any immigration because they were not determined by the indigenous people. So which Indigenous groups invited you to Canada?

p.s. I'm sure you can find some Canadians who think South Asians are colonizing parts of the GTA.
Are indigeneous people Canadian citizens? Does the charter apply to them? Do they have equal status to you, me and everybody else? Yes, they do. Palestinians do not.

Yes we have begun to come to terms with our actions, we also acknowledge systemic oppression that still persists. Does Israel? No. They celebrate it, cheer for it and infact demand more.
 
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And you conveniently skip where they also added Hamas to the list because you think "Palestinians self defense" includes killing Israeli civilians.
You are admitting that Israel is on the world's list as child killers and are now trying to argue that they are only as bad as Hamas?
Wow, you've really lost this argument.

If your entire argument is that Israel is as bad as Hamas, zionism is done.

 

Frankfooter

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Bullshit. Canada continues to take land from Indigenous and subject them to systemic discrimination. We have BEGUN to come to terms with our actions but that systemic oppression hasn't changed just because there are land acknowledgements at some events. You just don't want to admit that you are a colonial oppressor.
I'm sure this means you now also think Israel needs to give their indigenous full human rights, including the vote, like Canada.
Correct?

 

basketcase

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Are indigeneous people Canadian citizens?...
Living under laws imposed by the colonial entity. No Indigenous people determined the laws of Canada and none of them invited you here. You and I are just settlers living on stolen land.

And supporting Palestinian self-determination means listening to the fact that they hate the idea of being Israeli citizens. You might think Arabs are so far beneath you that they need you to tell them what they want but your racist world view is not reality.
 

basketcase

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You are admitting that Israel is on the world's list as child killers and are now trying to argue that they are only as bad as Hamas?
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Considering you support Hamas and believe in their cause, you can't use that argument, no matter how much death porn you post.
 

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I'm sure this means you now also think Israel needs to give their indigenous full human rights, including the vote, like Canada.
Correct?
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No matter how much contempt you have for them, Palestinian self-determination means Palestinians shouldn't be forced to become Israelis against their will.
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Kautilya

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Living under laws imposed by the colonial entity. No Indigenous people determined the laws of Canada and none of them invited you here. You and I are just settlers living on stolen land.

And supporting Palestinian self-determination means listening to the fact that they hate the idea of being Israeli citizens. You might think Arabs are so far beneath you that they need you to tell them what they want but your racist world view is not reality.
Yes a former colonial entity. Indigeneous people are citizens of Canada and as such the govt. at the center represents them. Therefore me using actual immigration laws, passed by the Parliament of Canada, automatically means that those indigeneous people invited me and approved my presence here, because their representatives did so. That is democracy. That was not the case with Jews who immigrated to historical Palestine. They manipulated the colonial British empire into giving them land that was not theirs to give, to a people who did not belong in the land in the first place.

Palestinians do not want Israeli citizenship because they do not trust the Israelis. So it is up to Israel to give them freedom, lands etc., If a one state solution does not work, let them go back to the 1967 borders and form a 2 state solution. Either way the end result should be Palestinian sovereignty and freedom.
 

shack

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The sooner Hamas surrenders and releases the hostages the sooner the paradise of Oct 6 can be restored. Israel just wants a return to the normalcy of peacefully annexing the Westbank, is that too much to ask? Anyone who disagrees with this is an antisemite.
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However, it's possible that Geno will say this proves that we support genocide, apartheid, colonialism and Justin Bieber.
 

shack

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Are indigeneous people Canadian citizens? Does the charter apply to them? Do they have equal status to you, me and everybody else? Yes, they do. Palestinians do not.
Um. The Palestinians chose not to form a country of which they'd have citizenship. They wouldn't have to rely on Israel.
 

Frankfooter

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Living under laws imposed by the colonial entity. No Indigenous people determined the laws of Canada and none of them invited you here. You and I are just settlers living on stolen land.

And supporting Palestinian self-determination means listening to the fact that they hate the idea of being Israeli citizens. You might think Arabs are so far beneath you that they need you to tell them what they want but your racist world view is not reality.
Would you stop claiming to speak for Palestinians?
Its bad enough you spend hours on here defending killing them through genocide.

What next, you're going to argue they prefer genocide to the two state solution or one state solution?
 

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However, it's possible that Geno will say this proves that we support genocide, apartheid, colonialism and Justin Bieber.
Of course the first three can be traced to Justin Bieber's evil and timeless influence.
 
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