SCREAMS BEFORE SILENCE

[basketcase]

Canada provides equal rights and citizenship to indigeneous peoples, ...

Bullshit. Canada continues to take land from Indigenous and subject them to systemic discrimination. We have BEGUN to come to terms with our actions but that systemic oppression hasn't changed just because there are land acknowledgements at some events. You just don't want to admit that you are a colonial oppressor.

You claim that The Ottomans and Brits couldn't legitimize any immigration because they were not determined by the indigenous people. So which Indigenous groups invited you to Canada?



p.s. I'm sure you can find some Canadians who think South Asians are colonizing parts of the GTA.

 

[Frankfooter]

Yes, your anti-immigrant talking points

At least you are now admitting that zionists are a foreign colonial movement.
Next you have to admit they would also be illegal immigrants, since they were not wanted by the state of Palestine.

I wonder if there will ever come a day when you ask yourself how you became a nazi.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1800304894949175400

 

[Frankfooter]

And you conveniently skip where they also added Hamas to the list because you think "Palestinians self defense" includes killing Israeli civilians.

You are admitting that Israel is on the world's list as child killers and are now trying to argue that they are only as bad as Hamas?
Wow, you've really lost this argument.

If your entire argument is that Israel is as bad as Hamas, zionism is done.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1799890849607696790

 

[Frankfooter]

Bullshit. Canada continues to take land from Indigenous and subject them to systemic discrimination. We have BEGUN to come to terms with our actions but that systemic oppression hasn't changed just because there are land acknowledgements at some events. You just don't want to admit that you are a colonial oppressor.

I'm sure this means you now also think Israel needs to give their indigenous full human rights, including the vote, like Canada.
Correct?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1752622641356083306

 

[basketcase]

Are indigeneous people Canadian citizens?...

Living under laws imposed by the colonial entity. No Indigenous people determined the laws of Canada and none of them invited you here. You and I are just settlers living on stolen land.

And supporting Palestinian self-determination means listening to the fact that they hate the idea of being Israeli citizens. You might think Arabs are so far beneath you that they need you to tell them what they want but your racist world view is not reality.

 

[basketcase]

You are admitting that Israel is on the world's list as child killers and are now trying to argue that they are only as bad as Hamas?
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Considering you support Hamas and believe in their cause, you can't use that argument, no matter how much death porn you post.

 

[basketcase]

I'm sure this means you now also think Israel needs to give their indigenous full human rights, including the vote, like Canada.
Correct?
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No matter how much contempt you have for them, Palestinian self-determination means Palestinians shouldn't be forced to become Israelis against their will.

 

[shack]

The sooner Hamas surrenders and releases the hostages the sooner the paradise of Oct 6 can be restored. Israel just wants a return to the normalcy of peacefully annexing the Westbank, is that too much to ask? Anyone who disagrees with this is an antisemite.

However, it's possible that Geno will say this proves that we support genocide, apartheid, colonialism and Justin Bieber.

 

[shack]

Are indigeneous people Canadian citizens? Does the charter apply to them? Do they have equal status to you, me and everybody else? Yes, they do. Palestinians do not.

Um. The Palestinians chose not to form a country of which they'd have citizenship. They wouldn't have to rely on Israel.

 

[Frankfooter]

Living under laws imposed by the colonial entity. No Indigenous people determined the laws of Canada and none of them invited you here. You and I are just settlers living on stolen land.

And supporting Palestinian self-determination means listening to the fact that they hate the idea of being Israeli citizens. You might think Arabs are so far beneath you that they need you to tell them what they want but your racist world view is not reality.

Would you stop claiming to speak for Palestinians?
Its bad enough you spend hours on here defending killing them through genocide.

What next, you're going to argue they prefer genocide to the two state solution or one state solution?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1800599604842680356

 

[Frankfooter]

Um. The Palestinians chose not to form a country of which they'd have citizenship. They wouldn't have to rely on Israel.

Palestinians did not choose partition or to be invaded by terrorist zionists.
Are you going to argue that Palestinians choose to be shot by snipers just for walking on the beach next?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1800656454460010658

 

[Frankfooter]

Israel is working hard to justify killing civilians.
Intentionally targeting civilians is terrorism.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1800899676646039660

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1800520610268733563

 

[NotADcotor]

However, it's possible that Geno will say this proves that we support genocide, apartheid, colonialism and Justin Bieber.

Of course the first three can be traced to Justin Bieber's evil and timeless influence.

 

[Frankfooter]

Of course the first three can be traced to Justin Bieber's evil and timeless influence.

Sure, blame Bieber for this.
Its as good as any other story you've pushed here.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1800693539380269566

 

[basketcase]

Would you stop claiming to speak for Palestinians?
...

What a pathetic attempt to invert reality. i don't speak for anyone but myself but unlike you, I do respect Palestinians enough to listen to what they have to say.

How do you justify claiming to support Palestinian self determination while demanding they become Israelis even though only 5% of them want that? Don't bother answering; it's clear that you think them beneath you and only use them as a tool to promote your obsessive hatred.

 

[basketcase]

Yes a former colonial entity...

Are you pretending that our entire system isn't based on the colonial system forced on our indigenous people or that they aren't still oppressed and still being dispossessed? Of course you are because you aren't willing to examine the systemic oppression you are a part of, no different than your attempts to whitewash Modi's use of nationalism and your idolization of a Nazi SS commander.

Palestinians do not want Israeli citizenship...

So why did you claim they did?

...So it is up to Israel to give them freedom, lands etc., If a one state solution does not work, let them go back to the 1967 borders and form a 2 state solution. Either way the end result should be Palestinian sovereignty and freedom.

I know you don't care about Palestinians but does it occur to you that either a One or Two State peace requires Palestinians to agree to it? Sadly 75% of Palestinians only want a Palestinian state without Jews according to the polling I posted.

 

[basketcase]

Palestinians did not choose partition ...

Right. Their leaders rejected any kind of peaceful compromise and most of them still do.

 

[Frankfooter]

I do respect Palestinians enough to listen to what they have to say.

So you back BDS, a ceasefire, the end of the occupation and the end of apartheid?

 

[Frankfooter]

Right. Their leaders rejected any kind of peaceful compromise and most of them still do.

Palestinians rejected the Brits giving half of Palestine to a foreign colonial movement that was intent on taking all of Palestine, true.
Why would you be surprised about that and why would you think they should have been happy?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1802064535831855440

 

[basketcase]

Systemic oppression exists everywhere. It is not unique to colonial entities. What is important is to examine which of these colonial entities is genociding indigeneous people. Only one is. That is Israel.

Sorry pal but your stated belief was the "colonial" nature of Israel means it is illegitimate and that Jews being there is illegitimate. At the same time, you are a settler in Canada like most of us here and refuse to accept that \Indigenous groups are STILL having land taken from them and STILL being subjected to far below standard living conditions.

All you are doing is showing an complete inability to admit the issues your own presence here causes.

And I have not whitewashed Modi's use of nationalism

So why have you repeatedly tried to justify it? It must be embarrassing that you have freely called anyone who supports a Sikh state as terrorists but have a completely opposite view when it comes to people wanting a Palestinian state.

And Bose was a commander in the Waffen SS and his troops swore loyalty to Hitler.

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Because they do. They want a one state solution and EQUAL rights.
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Um, you're being stupid. Do you think they need you to tell them what they want?



5% want a "One-State Solution for Two Peoples".
There is no ambiguity.