Israel at war

Phil C. McNasty

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Klatuu

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Your posts prove it

Second class citizens =/= genocide


Tough luck. Hamas shouldnt have started it on Oct. 7th.

And its war btw. Its impossible to not have civilian casualties in a war.
Especially when Hamas likes to use civilians as human shields
Embarrasing
 

Butler1000

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Are you saying then that the Nazis were not racist? That the genocide of the Jews in the holocaust, due to antisemitism was not racist?
Answer first. What race is Islam? You need to quid pro quo to carry on a conversation
 

Butler1000

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Are you saying that Nazis were not racist and that the holocaust was not racist? I am carrying on the conversation to show you the stupidity behind your statement. So answer it.
They were eugenicists, racists, religious discriminators, nationalists, socialists, all tied up in an Aryan supremacist movement. To simplify the core as racist when their goal would have eventually included wiping out Muslims, Buddists, Hindus and basically anyone who didn't meet their Aryan ideal AND political system is stupid. They also wiped out Gay people , Gypsies. What race are gays?

Now once again, what race is Islam? By not answering you are proving me right. Deflection is clearly seen.
 
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Butler1000

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Correct. So you were wrong. Antisemitism is racism. Similarly, Islamophobia is racism. Both are hatred of a religion or religious group. But both count as racism.
No they don't. They count as Religious discrimination.

Just like I wouldn't call what happened in India 1947 as racist. It was religious discrimination.

Race is based around percieved genetics and leads to eugenics. Pretty much debunked by DNA. Beyond certain adaptive changes for climate we are are the same with similar potentials.

Antisemitism is an unfortunate mistake in language use. Being a Jew has nothing to do with genetics and is simply about belief choice. Being a Muslim is no different than being a Scientologist.
 

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No they are not. Racism exists everywhere, but no Arab nation is more racist than Israel is where it is literally apartheid. Heck, they even forcefully sterilized Ethiopian Jewish women, because they were black and African. None of those Arab countries are also actioning on their racism or committing genocide. Only Israel is.
There's that bias and inability to look at things objectively. That is why so many of your statements cannot be taken seriously.
 

Butler1000

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Antizionism and criticism of Israel, is not antisemitism. I will let Shulomit Atoni, the former Israeli education minister educate you:


You just admitted that antisemitism is racism. Similarly Islamophobia is also racism. Case closed.

Genocide and apartheid is any day more serious than garden variety racism that exists even in Canada. If you looked at things objectively, you'd know this.
Then by your definition the Hindu population of India are guilty of racism, ethnic clensing, possibly genocide for the estimated 1,000,000 who lost their lives, and the various "races" the harmed should have the right of return to their homes? As well as reparations? Add in a form of apartheid as well really.
 

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No they don't. They count as Religious discrimination.

Just like I wouldn't call what happened in India 1947 as racist. It was religious discrimination.

Race is based around percieved genetics and leads to eugenics. Pretty much debunked by DNA. Beyond certain adaptive changes for climate we are are the same with similar potentials.

Antisemitism is an unfortunate mistake in language use. Being a Jew has nothing to do with genetics and is simply about belief choice. Being a Muslim is no different than being a Scientologist.
Racism is solely in the mind and perception of the racist, not the nature of the victim. That’s the definitive nature of racism. Forms of supremacy in the minds of the racists frequently go hand in hand.
 
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Butler1000

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Racism is solely the perception of the racist, not the nature of the victim. That’s the definitive nature of racism.
That has to be one of the stupidest statements I've heard in a long time.

Can you therefore be racist towards a Christian? A Scientologist?

Seriously is this what they are teaching now? No wonder the kids are so screwed up.
 

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Racism is solely in the mind and perception of the racist, not the nature of the victim. That’s the definitive nature of racism. Forms of supremacy in the minds of the racists frequently go hand in hand.
 

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Are you talking about the partition?

During partition, mass migration happened voluntarily with violence relegated to the border regions in Punjab and Bengal (Bangladeshi border or at that time East Pakistan), and a few other major cities like Delhi, and other cities in Pakistan and present day Bangladesh. The violence was perpetrated by Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs, alike toward the other groups. In Muslim majority areas, more Hindus died and in Hindu majority areas more Muslims died.

That said, all 3 groups were guilty of some form of ethnic cleansing to one degree or another, indeed. But they were relegated to border regions.

The majority of Hindus or Muslims in the country however, were not affected.

As for right of return, the majority of Indians do not care if they return. We are not trying to forcefully manage demographics the way Israel is or instituting legal systems that are different for different religious or ethnic groups. They are welcome back.

Criticism or more accurately, abuse of by the KKK of a racial group is racism.

Criticism of a multi-religious, multi-ethnic, pluralistic nation for its policies towards the Palestinians, or criticism of ethno-religious supremacist political movements such as Zionism, are not.


 
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