Israel at war

[Phil C. McNasty]

Antizionism and criticism of Israel, is not antisemitism

You sound exactly like a KKK'er.
They also say that criticism of blacks doesn't make us racist

 

[Butler1000]

Antizionism and criticism of Israel, is not antisemitism. I will let Shulomit Atoni, the former Israeli education minister educate you:

You just admitted that antisemitism is racism. Similarly Islamophobia is also racism. Case closed.

Genocide and apartheid is any day more serious than garden variety racism that exists even in Canada. If you looked at things objectively, you'd know this.

Then by your definition the Hindu population of India are guilty of racism, ethnic clensing, possibly genocide for the estimated 1,000,000 who lost their lives, and the various "races" the harmed should have the right of return to their homes? As well as reparations? Add in a form of apartheid as well really.

 

[Klatuu]

No they don't. They count as Religious discrimination.

Just like I wouldn't call what happened in India 1947 as racist. It was religious discrimination.

Race is based around percieved genetics and leads to eugenics. Pretty much debunked by DNA. Beyond certain adaptive changes for climate we are are the same with similar potentials.

Antisemitism is an unfortunate mistake in language use. Being a Jew has nothing to do with genetics and is simply about belief choice. Being a Muslim is no different than being a Scientologist.

Racism is solely in the mind and perception of the racist, not the nature of the victim. That’s the definitive nature of racism. Forms of supremacy in the minds of the racists frequently go hand in hand.

 

[Butler1000]

Racism is solely the perception of the racist, not the nature of the victim. That’s the definitive nature of racism.

That has to be one of the stupidest statements I've heard in a long time.

Can you therefore be racist towards a Christian? A Scientologist?

Seriously is this what they are teaching now? No wonder the kids are so screwed up.

 

[Butler1000]

Racism is solely in the mind and perception of the racist, not the nature of the victim. That’s the definitive nature of racism. Forms of supremacy in the minds of the racists frequently go hand in hand.

Definition of RACISM

a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race; also : behavior or attitudes that reflect and foster this belief : racial discrimination or prejudice… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[Butler1000]

Are you talking about the partition?

During partition, mass migration happened voluntarily with violence relegated to the border regions in Punjab and Bengal (Bangladeshi border or at that time East Pakistan), and a few other major cities like Delhi, and other cities in Pakistan and present day Bangladesh. The violence was perpetrated by Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs, alike toward the other groups. In Muslim majority areas, more Hindus died and in Hindu majority areas more Muslims died.

That said, all 3 groups were guilty of some form of ethnic cleansing to one degree or another, indeed. But they were relegated to border regions.

The majority of Hindus or Muslims in the country however, were not affected.

As for right of return, the majority of Indians do not care if they return. We are not trying to forcefully manage demographics the way Israel is or instituting legal systems that are different for different religious or ethnic groups. They are welcome back.

Criticism or more accurately, abuse of by the KKK of a racial group is racism.

Criticism of a multi-religious, multi-ethnic, pluralistic nation for its policies towards the Palestinians, or criticism of ethno-religious supremacist political movements such as Zionism, are not.

The Mutual Genocide of Indian Partition

It displaced fifteen million people and killed more than a million. How did it happen?

www.newyorker.com

 

[Klatuu]

That has to be one of the stupidest statements I've heard in a long time.

Can you therefore be racist towards a Christian? A Scientologist?

Seriously is this what they are teaching now? No wonder the kids are so screwed up.

Any group can be the victim of racists. It’s determined by the beliefs of the racist. History is replete with examples.

Race is a social construct.

 

[Klatuu]

The Mutual Genocide of Indian Partition

It displaced fifteen million people and killed more than a million. How did it happen?

www.newyorker.com

Racism
“Racism is different from racial prejudice, hatred, or discrimination. Racism involves one group having the power to carry out systematic discrimination through the institutional policies and practices of the society and by shaping the cultural beliefs and values that support those racist policies and practices”

Racism — Alberta Civil Liberties Research Centre

www.aclrc.com

 

[Butler1000]

Tell me you know nothing about racism, without telling me you know nothing about racism. People who have never been subject to racism, usually resort to posting online dictionary definitions of racism.

I provided you the information. That is what I just told you.

I think I know how you can be happy. Just think of this as the Partition of the ME. Take the side of the Jews as the Hindus, and be as laissez-faire fair about the deaths and displacement as you are about what happened there.

Then you can relax.

 

[Butler1000]

Racism
“Racism is different from racial prejudice, hatred, or discrimination. Racism involves one group having the power to carry out systematic discrimination through the institutional policies and practices of the society and by shaping the cultural beliefs and values that support those racist policies and practices”

Racism — Alberta Civil Liberties Research Centre

www.aclrc.com

Another stupid definition.

 

[Butler1000]

Any group can be the victim of racists. It’s determined by the beliefs of the racist. History is replete with examples.

Race is a social construct.

Based on genetics, not beliefs.

 

[Butler1000]

Seriously do you see this. They are are stating the DICTIONARY is not a reasonable source for establishing the meaning of words.

 

[Klatuu]

Based on genetics, not beliefs.

Based on beliefs, not genetics. No genetics support racism. Beliefs fuel racism. Especially supremacist ones. Race is a social construct.

 

[shack]

Antizionism and criticism of Israel, is not antisemitism.

Does that mean never?

 

[shack]

garden variety racism that exists even in Canada.

Is that where they plant the seeds for things like a Holocaust?

You are becoming quite the apologist for racism in general and specifically anti-Semitism.

 

[Frankfooter]

Idiotic. Are Israeli women limited as to how much of an education they are allowed to pursue? Are Israeli women told that they are not allowed to drive?

Israel loves women so much they killed 15,000 Palestinian women.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1798145259727360481

 

[Frankfooter]

Does that mean never?

Do you think being against doing this to children is antisemitic?
Is this act what you think is emblematic of your Jewish beliefs?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1797933647884075289

 

[Butler1000]

Based on beliefs, not genetics. No genetics support racism. Beliefs fuel racism. Especially supremacist ones. Race is a social construct.

The construct of race is based in genetics. When someone defines race they don't ask what their beliefs are, they judge them by how they look. Skin colour, hair, eye shape, etc. It is literally their physical form.

A person's beliefs are not defined by their genetics. Anyone can be a Jew, A Muslim, An atheist.

 

[Butler1000]

Partition means a 2 state solution. The issue is that a 2 state solution is not allowed to happen here because a) Israel rejects the Palestinian identity and state, even though 146 countries of the world recognize them as a state b) They occupy land, that is supposed to belong to the Palestinians. c) They genocide the Palestinians.

Every Indian will acknowledge, and they acknowledged it even as early as 1947 that the partition riots should never have happened. However, here we are in the 21st century, 80 years hence, where people in CANADA, let alone Israel, are cheering on genocide in Gaza.

And by your definition Hindus occupy land owned by Muslims and were forced out of. Are you demanding they leave as well?

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Criticism or more accurately, abuse of by the KKK of a racial group is racism.

Criticism of a multi-religious, multi-ethnic, pluralistic nation for its policies towards the Palestinians, or criticism of ethno-religious supremacist political movements such as Zionism, are not

Those are the rules you are making up as you go along