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Frankfooter

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Again, they recorded videos of their prep for the attack, having built an Israeli town and practicing going door to door killing.
You believe Hamas sent emails about these plans?
The IDF propaganda is so incredibly stupid and yet you still believe it?

wow
 

basketcase

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Nothing Hamas has ever done is anywhere near as evil as the shit Israel is doing right now.
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Why are you incapable of criticizing Hamas.

Even immediately after the 7th you were desperately looking for excuses to justify their butchering, raping, and kidnapping civilians.
 
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Frankfooter

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Why are you incapable of criticizing Hamas.

Even immediately after the 7th you were desperately looking for excuses to justify their butchering, raping, and kidnapping civilians.
Take Hamas and Israel to the ICC after investigations based on all the legit reports.
But the legit reports say that there was no rape by Hamas and almost half of the civilians killed were by the IDF on Oct 97.

Even if you count the targeting of civilians by Hamas on Oct 7, Israel is still way more evil on every metric.
Israel has killed 20,000 women and children and is near starving 1 million more children.

Nothing Hamas has done is anywhere near as evil.


 

basketcase

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Take Hamas and Israel to the ICC after investigations based on all the legit reports.
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And the usual Jew hatred excuses.

You refuse to condemn hamas because the ICC hasn't said anything even though the ICC said there is absolutely no justification for Oct 7 and demanded Hamas immediately and unconditionally release their hostages but at the same time, demonize Israel despite the ICC not making any ruling.

And todays news has Hamas admitting that they don't have enough hostages still alive to make an exchange.
 
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Frankfooter

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And the usual Jew hatred excuses.

You refuse to condemn hamas because the ICC hasn't said anything even though the ICC said there is absolutely no justification for Oct 7 and demanded Hamas immediately and unconditionally release their hostages but at the same time, demonize Israel despite the ICC not making any ruling.

And todays news has Hamas admitting that they don't have enough hostages still alive to make an exchange.
Do you read your posts?
Do you have any idea how ridiculously stupid they sound?

Nothing you can ever say will justify your support of starving children to death for your genocide.
 

shack

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Right, that is the official definition of genocide. And note, the intent of the official definition of genocide, is to define genocide. Not to rule on whether or not retaliation is appropriate. So while showing whether or not actions amount to genocide is important, discussing whether retaliation is permissible is irrelevant and tangential.

So let us review, shall we?

Hamas:

Did Hamas....
  1. Killing members of the group - No. They killed a multi-national, multi-religious, multi-ethnic group of people. No one specific. Infact they explicitly DID NOT intend to target civilians and have admitted that there were some faults that occurred on October 7. Many Israeli survivors also said the same thing, where the Hamas guys let the women and children go.
  2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group. - No. They harmed a multi-national, multi-religious, multi-ethnic group of people. No one specific.
  3. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part. - No.
  4. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group. - No
  5. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. - No. Kidnapping does not count as forcible transfer as they did not steal kids to convert them into Palestinians.
Note, that committing only one of these crimes is enough to be genocide as long as, INTENT, is displayed to in whole or in part, destroy a specific group. So did Hamas display that INTENT? No. They did not.
Hamas intended all of those things to happen. Your explanations are laughably devoid of any semblance of reality.

There is a looming pretzel shortage on the horizon.
 
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mandrill

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And the usual Jew hatred excuses.

You refuse to condemn hamas because the ICC hasn't said anything even though the ICC said there is absolutely no justification for Oct 7 and demanded Hamas immediately and unconditionally release their hostages but at the same time, demonize Israel despite the ICC not making any ruling.

And todays news has Hamas admitting that they don't have enough hostages still alive to make an exchange.
That means that they have tortured and murdered all the hostages, including the little babies, old people and women.
 

Kautilya

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Hamas intended all of those things to happen. Your explanations are laughably devoid of any semblance of reality.

There is a looming pretzel shortage on the horizon.
Considering Hamas already published an entire document on what their intent was, which actually highlights reality and you are no mind reader, I'd say the pretzel shortage is most likely due to your childish, immature, illogical and self contradicting aka pretzeling arguments you have made throughout the last 6 months. Good job on exposing and discrediting yourself.
That means that they have tortured and murdered all the hostages, including the little babies, old people and women.
Carpet bombing tends to kill people. Also Israeli bombs are just bombs. They cannot differentiate between Israelis and Palestinians.
 
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shack

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Why do you keep trying to argue that Israel are all idiots who fell into a trap to commit genocide?
This has to be the stupidest theory ever.
Based on what has happened since Oct.7, that attack was the stupidest act of unprovoked aggression while a ceasefire was in effect, ever.
 

Kautilya

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Based on what has happened since Oct.7, that attack was the stupidest act of unprovoked aggression while a ceasefire was in effect, ever.
More sensible people would argue that a 75 year occupation, apartheid and violence is 75 years of constant provocation. And even if this was unprovoked aggression, then unprovoked aggression does not in any way justify the ongoing Israeli genocide of the Palestinians.
 

Frankfooter

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Based on what has happened since Oct.7, that attack was the stupidest act of unprovoked aggression while a ceasefire was in effect, ever.
I agree, Netanyahu was warned it was going to happen by Egypt and let it happen.
He wanted to start a war to distract from his corruption trials, unpopularity and issues with the courts and his governing coalition.

 

basketcase

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I do, you don't.
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Except for this part

7. Demands the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages, as well as ensuring humanitarian access to address medical needs of all hostages;

You'd rather just listen to a anti-semitic conspiracy theorist who you agree with instead of the UNSC.
 

basketcase

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Considering Hamas already published an entire document on what their intent was,...
Yes, they were clear in repeated interviews that their point was to create constant violence.

Of course you believe whatever contradictory statements Hamas makes to sate your racism while believing anything from Israel is a lie.
 
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