You know those UN, ICC, and ICJ guys Franky pretend to support? They all said that there was no legitimate justification for Oct 7.
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What a surprise, you were dishonest again!
You used a partial quote.
1. Demands an immediate ceasefire for the month of Ramadan respected by all parties leading to a lasting sustainable ceasefire, and also demands the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages, as well as ensuring humanitarian access to address their medical and other humanitarian needs, and further demands that the parties comply with their obligations under international law in relation to all persons they detain;
The ceasefire was the main demand, releasing hostages and allowing aid through were additional demands.
Israel ignored all demands and remains a rogue nation that should be booted from the UN and put on trial for genocide.
Hamas laid out reason but they did not have to. What they laid out was no secret. Everyone reported on it and every zionist pretended it never happened.
Yeah terror attacks have no justifications. But it is not about whether something is justified or not. It is about whether something is a consequence of something else. Yes October 7 is a consequence of Israeli oppression of the Palestinians. Heck, Hamas is a consequence of Israeli oppression of the Palestinians.
Even more than that, Hamas was actively funded and supported by Netanyahu as a way to divide Palestinians between Fatah and Hamas.
For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces
The premier's policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from
www.timesofisrael.com
If you consider yourself a sensible person, then you just disproved your point since you consider a terrorist attack against 1,200 civilians appropriate.
So the US was wrong to wage war against Japan when they were provoked by Pearl Harbour.
So Hamas is right to fight against the foreign zionists who provoked a war against them?
There was no zionist attack...you're just dreaming...The arabs in the area would rather burn the jews than have a state of their own....keep denying but we all know you don't hate zionist....you hate jews...
There were 233 zionist settler attacks in 2023 before Oct alone, all documented at B'tselem.
But really, its all one continuous long attack and colonization since 1948.
Only zionists think that the right to self defence is only based on your race.
This post of yours makes no sense whatsoever. It is not a valid response to my post that you quoted. You are having an argument in your head.
settlers who inflict violence get arrested and tried. and they should because they are criminals......Hamas inflict violence both to the palestinians and israelis....and live like kings....and you think Hamas isn't the problem....you see the difference between you and me? I see settler violence as crime...you think Hamas atrocities are fighting for freedom....you're not blind, your just closing your eyes.
No they are not arrested and tried. They do that under the protection of the IDF. They can do anything they want and if a Palestinian raises a hand he'd be shot dead on the spot. But a settler can do whatever he wants.
Here is a video. The settler steals the Palestinians sheep and then they arrest the Palestinian. This is just one example of humiliation they endure on a daily basis. And this is minor compared to other things.
No, they don't. Just stop constantly lying, rich.
B'tselem posts the stats, the IDF backs up settler attacks which is why the UN just called Israel out.
UN demands Israeli forces end support of settler attacks in West Bank
UN spokesperson says Israel has a duty to protect Palestinians from settler attacks, which have been on the rise.
once again, they do get arrested, and they are criminals....like Hamas....do you consider Hamas criminals? no you don't....No, they don't. Just stop constantly lying, rich.
B'tselem posts the stats, the IDF backs up settler attacks which is why the UN just called Israel out.
UN demands Israeli forces end support of settler attacks in West Bank
UN spokesperson says Israel has a duty to protect Palestinians from settler attacks, which have been on the rise.www.aljazeera.com
No rich, you are lying. The stats are posted on B'tselem and the reason why the UN demanded Israel do something is because they don't arrest settlers, they send the IDF in to back them up in there terrorist attacks.
Read the article and stop lying.
UN demands Israeli forces end support of settler attacks in West Bank
UN spokesperson says Israel has a duty to protect Palestinians from settler attacks, which have been on the rise.
article? you mean an article the vilifies israel? if you keep reading that kind of bullshit, then that's the kind of shit you will believe in...we can go back and forth....you support terrorists...i don't support settlers who are violent to palestinians. they should be prosecuted....that''s the difference...No rich, you are lying. The stats are posted on B'tselem and the reason why the UN demanded Israel do something is because they don't arrest settlers, they send the IDF in to back them up in there terrorist attacks.
Read the article and stop lying.
UN demands Israeli forces end support of settler attacks in West Bank
UN spokesperson says Israel has a duty to protect Palestinians from settler attacks, which have been on the rise.
An article that reports on a UN demand that Israel stop backing settler terrorist attacks.
You are intentionally lying or lying to yourself now.
Which is it?
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Not sure what you're trying to say. Hamas laid out a half dozen different reasons in the media pamphlet they sent out but their leaders were clear in repeated interviews that their goal was to create a continual state of violence. And considering they have repeatedly rejected ceasefires, including the one demanded by the UNSC, it's pretty clear what the actual reason is.
More importantly, you claim terror attacks have no justification but you are continually trying to justify Oct 7.
And as usual, moronic excuses to defend hamas from any criticism while also pointing out another thing Hamas should be condemned for.
The UNSC demanded Hamas immediately and unconditionally release their hostages. Hamas refused.
The UNSC demanded a ceasefire. Hamas rejected two mediated deals that Israel accepted during Ramadan.
Speaking of dishonest, you claim to support the UN but here you are saying that Hamas doesn't have to listen to the UNSC.
No. Hamas is openly fighting against the "zionist" presence like the PLO and Mufti before them. Their objection was that some Jews immigrated to the region and expected to have rights.
But you think Palestinians are incapable of making decisions for themselves or deserving of criticism for their choices.
They said many more October 7s would happen if Palestinian Statehood is not accomplished. Aka their fight for Palestinian freedom. I do not justify terror attacks. Instead I am asking what you expected would happen, given Israeli oppression, occupation and terrorism towards the Palestinians?
