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Darts

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I'm not sure what you meant in the bolded part of your statement.

With respect to your comment about cheaper providers being less professional, I would say you're talking out of your ass. Much like price not being a guarantee of service, it isn't a guarantee of professionalism. YOU may be a professional, and I'm not doubting that you are, but that doesn't guarantee that another $600/hour provider is the same.

In any event, I formally apologize to the OP for my part in derailing this thread as I have not contributed to the conversation about pros and cons of taking a SP on vacation as I have no direct experience doing so. But, I have never actually travelled outside of Canada so I haven't had the opportunity to consider it. (No, I wouldn't bother taking one to a cottage for a week. I don't think my wife would appreciate it. ;))
She did, in her mind, explained why a "professional" escort is a much better choice than a Sugar Baby to take on a vacation. I'm a capitalist, I believe in competition.
 

Vera.Reis

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She did, in her mind, explained why a "professional" escort is a much better choice than a Sugar Baby to take on a vacation. I'm a capitalist, I believe in competition.
How does that have anything to do with competition? Sugar babies can be cheaper, they aren't always, but if the product is of lower quality (in this case the higher risk of having your discretion compromised, as well as the often less professional nature of what they provide because they arent worried about a bad rep negatively affecting future earning, being considered "lower quality") it doesn't influence the rates of those who provide the higher quality product. The price of a car doesn't have any direct influence on the price of a yacht.
 

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How are you replying to me about this, but not where I quoted you showing the inaccuracies in your calculations?

I know your reading comprehension isn't all there from that interaction, but I said nothing about escorts at different rates being less professional, I said sugar babies and the like are less professional. The line you bolded says the providers at more affordable rates (for those who think my rates are unaffordable) are far safer to take on trips than sugar babies, because providers are professionals.
Excuse me? You didn't show any inaccuracies in my calculations. All you did was explain that the personal time was already built into your daily rate and explain that a longer booking would be discounted. There was nothing for me to respond to as you explained what you meant. You also pointed out that someone could have found your rates by looking at your website.

You have also provided more detail on what you meant by your bolded line by providing more detail. What I bolded and what you say I bolded are not the same thing.

Why would I, or anyone else who wasn't looking to book you, bother looking for your website? This is and was a discussion restricted to this thread.

My reading comprehension is just fine, sweetheart. I suppose as I have already stated that I wouldn't be interested in booking you that you feel fine in slinging insults. Which doesn't bother me much, I have thick enough skin to not be offended. Nice to see your true colours though.

As for my confusion with what you wrote, re-read it. Your short paragraph discussing SB's and their higher likelihood of blackmail and/or 'outing' you was not in the same paragraph where you said that you were more at risk taking the cheap way out. You did, however, state that other SPs would perhaps be willing to accept either $10k or even $5k for a week. The very next sentence was the one that I bolded. So, as I said, it wasn't clear what you meant. Now you have clarified it.
 

Vera.Reis

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Excuse me? You didn't show any inaccuracies in my calculations. All you did was explain that the personal time was already built into your daily rate and explain that a longer booking would be discounted. There was nothing for me to respond to as you explained what you meant. You also pointed out that someone could have found your rates by looking at your website.

You have also provided more detail on what you meant by your bolded line by providing more detail. What I bolded and what you say I bolded are not the same thing.

Why would I, or anyone else who wasn't looking to book you, bother looking for your website? This is and was a discussion restricted to this thread.

My reading comprehension is just fine, sweetheart. I suppose as I have already stated that I wouldn't be interested in booking you that you feel fine in slinging insults. Which doesn't bother me much, I have thick enough skin to not be offended. Nice to see your true colours though.

As for my confusion with what you wrote, re-read it. Your short paragraph discussing SB's and their higher likelihood of blackmail and/or 'outing' you was not in the same paragraph where you said that you were more at risk taking the cheap way out. You did, however, state that other SPs would perhaps be willing to accept either $10k or even $5k for a week. The very next sentence was the one that I bolded. So, as I said, it wasn't clear what you meant. Now you have clarified it.
Why would I need to clarify that my 2 date rate already had 2 nights of sleep built into, that's common sense. That wasn't a clarification, that was me pointing out why you calculating the amount of hours I'd have for sleeping over the week and then claiming that this was why my 7 day rate was 20k instead of the 28k that was extrapolated from my 2 day rate, was incorrect. You double counted my hours of sleep, as the extrapolated 28k would already include that, as that 8k rate for 2 days would have logically already taken into account my sleep. What you did would only make sense if we had been talking about hourly rates instead of multi-day rates as of course hourly rates don't account for sleep as they aren't overnight rates.
 

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Why would I need to clarify that my 2 date rate already had 2 nights of sleep built into, that's common sense. That wasn't a clarification, that was me pointing out why you calculating the amount of hours I'd have for sleeping over the week and then claiming that this was why my 7 day rate was 20k instead of the 28k that was extrapolated from my 2 day rate, was incorrect. You double counted my hours of sleep, as the extrapolated 28k would already include that, as that 8k rate for 2 days would have logically already taken into account my sleep. What you did would only make sense if we had been talking about hourly rates instead of multi-day rates as of course hourly rates don't account for sleep as they aren't overnight rates.
The $4k daily rate was taken from your quote of $8k for a 2 day booking. It's not my fault that the math worked out that 8 hours per night over a 7 day/6 night vacation worked out to exactly 2 days. So, not a correction to my math but a clarification on your personal rate. Again, only available on your website which wasn't looking at/consulted. If you have a desperate need to be right....fine, you're right. Happy?
 
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The $4k daily rate was taken from your quote of $8k for a 2 day booking. It's not my fault that the math worked out that 8 hours per night over a 7 day/6 night vacation worked out to exactly 2 days. So, not a correction to my math but a clarification on your personal rate. Again, only available on your website which wasn't looking at/consulted. If you have a desperate need to be right....fine, you're right. Happy?
How would the 8k for 2 nights not ALREADY include 2 nights sleep? Why would you then calculate sleep all over again in an extrapolation? If it's 8k for 2 nights with 2 nights sleep, splitting that would be 4k for 1 night with 1 night sleep. I don't know how else to explain to you that you going and calculating the hours I'll be sleeping, to then deduct that from a number that was extrapolated using a rate that ALREADY included the hours I would be sleeping since it was a multi day rate, is illogical.
 

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the highest i was paid for a week was 18k fee, plus about 3k of shopping, and yes the client paid my full rate and agreed to my terms.
Well then there you go.
So @JuanGoodman, the fact that she is getting any number of customers that is willing to do this means there is obviously enough men out there that see value in it, for her to offer such an option.

You may not. Many other men may not, but I'm sure Vera doesn't care if you or they don't. She cares about the ones that do see value in it, and there is obviously enough to make it worth it for her.
That seems pretty objective to me.
 

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Save money, lose professionalism, and most importantly, discretion. A sugar baby is far more likely to black mail you or even just accidentally out you because they do not know better. They do not have the same stigma as sex workers so they are not as worried about being outed, this makes them a huge liability.

But also, a professional feels more obligated to ensure you have a good time and treat you well because we want repeat business and a good reputation, that's how we make money. I'm out of a lot of peoples budgets (@onomatopoeia hit that nail on the head, I'm a law student with 2 undergrads, one STEM one social science, fluent in English and Portuguese, and can get around in Spanish, annnnddd I'm also of an average weight and facially attractive [and funny, in person], I do not agree that those who aren't these things deserve to earn less, but I will agree that these things make clients more willing to pay my rates) but there are plenty of providers who would take 10k and likely even 5k do go with you. You are far safer with them, you might come to regret taking the cheap way out. I also think the going down to the bar and finding your date with 2 guys scenario is far more likely to happen with these non-professionals as well.
At least you have a good opinion of yourself! But I have yet to see an escort come close to the personality and looks of the 21-28-year-olds SBs.
 

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How would the 8k for 2 nights not ALREADY include 2 nights sleep? Why would you then calculate sleep all over again in an extrapolation? If it's 8k for 2 nights with 2 nights sleep, splitting that would be 4k for 1 night with 1 night sleep. I don't know how else to explain to you that you going and calculating the hours I'll be sleeping, to then deduct that from a number that was extrapolated using a rate that ALREADY included the hours I would be sleeping since it was a multi day rate, is illogical.
Didn't I already say you're right? I'm not a dead horse, so drop the stick.
 
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You did not, but thank you for acknowledging ;-)

Some clients like the stick 😏
I actually had. Please see below. I bolded it so you can't miss it this time.
The $4k daily rate was taken from your quote of $8k for a 2 day booking. It's not my fault that the math worked out that 8 hours per night over a 7 day/6 night vacation worked out to exactly 2 days. So, not a correction to my math but a clarification on your personal rate. Again, only available on your website which wasn't looking at/consulted. If you have a desperate need to be right....fine, you're right. Happy?
And, for the record, I'm not a masochist.
 

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At least you have a good opinion of yourself! But I have yet to see an escort come close to the personality and looks of the 21-28-year-olds SBs.
I fail to understand why sugar babies are less professional. Most have normal lives and jobs.

I would be more concerned taking a sp outside of Canada.
Just to be clear. I'm not knocking Miss Vera. I'm just saying that Sugar Babies offer competition.

As an unapologetic capitalist, I strongly support Miss Vera's freedom to set whatever rates she wants. I also strongly support the buyer's right to accept, reject or negotiate those rates.

Realistically, I don't expect Miss Vera to say good things about the competition. Does Metro say nice things about Loblaws? Does CIBC say nice things about TD?
 

Vera.Reis

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Just to be clear. I'm not knocking Miss Vera. I'm just saying that Sugar Babies offer competition.

As an unapologetic capitalist, I strongly support Miss Vera's freedom to set whatever rates she wants. I also strongly support the buyer's right to accept, reject or negotiate those rates.

Realistically, I don't expect Miss Vera to say good things about the competition. Does Metro say nice things about Loblaws? Does CIBC say nice things about TD?
I'll say it again, I don't see sugar babies as direct competition, we offer very different things, despite the similarities. TD vs Meridian credit union might be more accurate.
 
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Gentleman, have you ever experienced traveling with an escort for vacation. How was your experience and tips. Mixing two my favorite pastimes :)
Ladies share your experience.
Thank you.
I’ll refrain from going in depth, but the simplest answer would be if you had an SP in mind that you easily vibe with then I would propose it as joining on an expenses paid trip and communicate any expectations so no one is let down by the experience.

Intimacy, money, and expenses should be agreed.

It can be a rewarding time, but like going on a first trip with a new GF, the sex can be great, but you need to be cognizant that there may be disagreements.

Its not just the sex that you are taking, but the company, so you should be able to get along with the person too.

Depending on your budget and destination, you may be better off mongering with the foreign talent for a better experience ;)
 

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I can't tell if you're joking or not.

Housing is a physiological need, according to Maslow's hierarchy, where a vacation with a SP would fall somewhere between love and belonging and self esteem. If you have to work and live in Toronto, you have to pay the piper. Taking a SP on vacation isn't in the same category.
I honestly think you are intentionally being obtuse in your poor understanding of subjective value judgements. A thing is worth what you are willing to pay, it does not matter whether it is people, cars or houses.
How about taxis vs Uber?
Barbarian Steak House vs Taco Bell? 🤣🤣🤣
 
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Barbarian Steak House vs Taco Bell? 🤣🤣🤣
We need a new thread where someone comments something and the next person has to comment something that it shares characteristics with, yet is still very different. I'm looking forward to the bickering of if the similarities or differences are sufficiently similar or distinct 🤣
 
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