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Scholar

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How you allow others to treat you or pay is your worth. That is why some SP's charge 200 per/hr while others can charge 600 or 1000 per/hr and men will pay their worth. It is the same with cars, property or anything else. Some folks are willing to pay great sums for the very same product that other would not. If VR demands a price and gets it that is not entitlement that is good business as she is a business not a charity.
How does this relate to my post? I didn't comment on her rate, just her math. On reflection, I suppose that my use of the word entitled does lend itself to that interpretation. Maybe I should have said confrontational, but regardless, I was not commenting on her rate.

"Some folks are willing to pay great sums for the very same product that other would not." Is this your way of saying, "A fool and his money are soon parted."?
 

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How does this relate to my post? I didn't comment on her rate, just her math. On reflection, I suppose that my use of the word entitled does lend itself to that interpretation. Maybe I should have said confrontational, but regardless, I was not commenting on her rate.

"Some folks are willing to pay great sums for the very same product that other would not." Is this your way of saying, "A fool and his money are soon parted."?
Just look at the Toronto housing market to answer your question.
 

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Lots of men would like to drink a bottle of Domaine de la Romanee-Conti Grand Cru red wine, but they never will, because it costs $34K+ per bottle.

Lots of men would like to have a mint condition 1970 Plymouth Barracuda in their garage, but $400K+ is beyond their car budget.

Lots of men would like to own an original painting by Vincent Van Gogh, but they don't have tens of millions of dollars to spend on one.

Some men drink Domaine de la Romanee-Conti Grand Cru frequently, a '70 Barracuda is one of their cars, and they own more than one Van Gogh. To them, $20K is chump change. They might make that more than that in a week just from interest on money in their bank account.

An Escort who charges $20K for a week of her time is necessarily going to have skills and talents that extend beyond the bedroom. Very likely she is well educated, well read, and may speak multiple languages fluently. Those things matter to the man with deep pockets who is not loathe to spending some of his money. An attractive younger woman with minimal education and life experience is unlikely to hold his attention for more than an hour or two.

 

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If you want to travel with a companion I strongly suggest looking into sugar babies, lots of normal everyday women woukd be down for this if you're not weird
 

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An attractive younger woman with minimal education and life experience is unlikely to hold his attention for more than an hour or two.
I think you’re giving people with money way too much credit.
With any luck attractive young women with no education and shitty life experiences have been holding men’s attention for all kind of times from an hour to the rest of men’s life.

Price tag is a different story. A rich man can wear a timex or drive a Toyota but they paid for it accordingly.
for 20k a week it would seem a man should indeed be entitled to hang out with no less than an Ivy League educated nymphomaniac
 
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Vera.Reis

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If you want to travel with a companion I strongly suggest looking into sugar babies, lots of normal everyday women woukd be down for this if you're not weird
Save money, lose professionalism, and most importantly, discretion. A sugar baby is far more likely to black mail you or even just accidentally out you because they do not know better. They do not have the same stigma as sex workers so they are not as worried about being outed, this makes them a huge liability.

But also, a professional feels more obligated to ensure you have a good time and treat you well because we want repeat business and a good reputation, that's how we make money. I'm out of a lot of peoples budgets (@onomatopoeia hit that nail on the head, I'm a law student with 2 undergrads, one STEM one social science, fluent in English and Portuguese, and can get around in Spanish, annnnddd I'm also of an average weight and facially attractive [and funny, in person], I do not agree that those who aren't these things deserve to earn less, but I will agree that these things make clients more willing to pay my rates) but there are plenty of providers who would take 10k and likely even 5k do go with you. You are far safer with them, you might come to regret taking the cheap way out. I also think the going down to the bar and finding your date with 2 guys scenario is far more likely to happen with these non-professionals as well.
 
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I know many people who earn under $100,000/year but have millions in savings and at their age, $20,000 or $30,000 is a small price to pay to spend exclusive time with the women that they want with them with no strings attached. I would never spend that much and I assume most of the guys here won’t or can’t.

As to taking a paid vacation with an SP, I cannot afford to but I have taken trips with SP’s on their own time and had a great time. No expectations of fun time but getting a break from business and having company to do things with was all she wanted. They didn’t expect 5 star hotels or services (ie; spa) or expensive shopping trips.
 

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Just because I'm letting you know your argument is flawed doesn't make me upset.

here's another way to look at it, 16hrs/day x 7 days = 112 hours with me for 20k. 112hrs of seeing a $300/hr provider for an hour at a time is 33.6k, a 500/hr provider 56k, or a 600/hr like me, 67.2k. So, 112 hrs for 20k seems like great "value" when you consider these numbers.

Hopefully the above will help you understand why I said there is nothing objective about your previous statement.
This back and forth is pointless really, there is an easy, very objective way of solving this.

Vera? Have clients booked you before for vacation sessions for a week? If so, have they paid you the $20,000 or so you have asked for and met all your other negotiated demands?
 
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Vera.Reis

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This back and forth is pointless really, there is an easy, very objective way of solving this.

Vera? Have clients booked you before for vacation sessions for a week? If so, have they paid you the $20,000 or so you have asked for and met all your other negotiated demands?
My rates went up this September, you know how it is, new tiddies=new rates, but the highest i was paid for a week was 18k fee, plus about 3k of shopping, and yes the client paid my full rate and agreed to my terms.

Just last month my regular had to cancel a 2 day booking, and paid in full. 10k usd plus a 2.5k cad tip... he never texts between bookings and books in 2-3 emails... so I think I did about 2hrs of work (as he was not feeling well I ubered to him to pick up the balance and spend about 10mins chatting at a distance) for over 15k CAD. He respects my time, and I was already in Orlando, he knew he had to pay in full if he ever wanted to see me again, so his email canceling asked me how I wanted to get the balance. He didn't have to tip, just pay in full, to see me again, and yet he still did.

There's a lot of mutual care and respect between me and my regulars. After I collected the money, I emailed him and let him know I'd be happy to apply a 50% credit from this appointment to a future one. Knowing him he will probably still pay in full, but appreciation goes both ways And him showing me so much respect and care made me want to reciprocate the same.
 

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No they are not the same thing. Just wondering which is better for some guys---apples or oranges.
Start a thread. This thread is about escorts, and as you seem to always do, you have no compunction in taking it off topic. When will you ever have respect for the topic that the OP wishes to discuss? Scholar already told you that you are off topic.

BTW, there have been many, many threads comparing SBs to escorts.

Do you know how to use the search function?
 
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Are you replying to your post # 62 ??
Yeah, I guess so. Is there any difference between a mistress and a sugar baby. Or, is it all semantics?

I think Vera has just said that a sugar baby is:
"A sugar baby is far more likely to black mail you or even just accidentally out you because they do not know better. They do not have the same stigma as sex workers so they are not as worried about being outed, this makes them a huge liability."

BTW: I have no experiences with either Sugar Babies or Vacationing SP's. Anyway, I am a one woman man now after many years in the wilderness.
 
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Scholar

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Just look at the Toronto housing market to answer your question.
I can't tell if you're joking or not.

Housing is a physiological need, according to Maslow's hierarchy, where a vacation with a SP would fall somewhere between love and belonging and self esteem. If you have to work and live in Toronto, you have to pay the piper. Taking a SP on vacation isn't in the same category.
 

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Save money, lose professionalism, and most importantly, discretion. A sugar baby is far more likely to black mail you or even just accidentally out you because they do not know better. They do not have the same stigma as sex workers so they are not as worried about being outed, this makes them a huge liability.

But also, a professional feels more obligated to ensure you have a good time and treat you well because we want repeat business and a good reputation, that's how we make money. I'm out of a lot of peoples budgets (@onomatopoeia hit that nail on the head, I'm a law student with 2 undergrads, one STEM one social science, fluent in English and Portuguese, and can get around in Spanish, annnnddd I'm also of an average weight and facially attractive [and funny, in person], I do not agree that those who aren't these things deserve to earn less, but I will agree that these things make clients more willing to pay my rates) but there are plenty of providers who would take 10k and likely even 5k do go with you. You are far safer with them, you might come to regret taking the cheap way out. I also think the going down to the bar and finding your date with 2 guys scenario is far more likely to happen with these non-professionals as well.
I'm not sure what you meant in the bolded part of your statement.

With respect to your comment about cheaper providers being less professional, I would say you're talking out of your ass. Much like price not being a guarantee of service, it isn't a guarantee of professionalism. YOU may be a professional, and I'm not doubting that you are, but that doesn't guarantee that another $600/hour provider is the same.

In any event, I formally apologize to the OP for my part in derailing this thread as I have not contributed to the conversation about pros and cons of taking a SP on vacation as I have no direct experience doing so. But, I have never actually travelled outside of Canada so I haven't had the opportunity to consider it. (No, I wouldn't bother taking one to a cottage for a week. I don't think my wife would appreciate it. ;))
 

Vera.Reis

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I'm not sure what you meant in the bolded part of your statement.

With respect to your comment about cheaper providers being less professional, I would say you're talking out of your ass. Much like price not being a guarantee of service, it isn't a guarantee of professionalism. YOU may be a professional, and I'm not doubting that you are, but that doesn't guarantee that another $600/hour provider is the same.

In any event, I formally apologize to the OP for my part in derailing this thread as I have not contributed to the conversation about pros and cons of taking a SP on vacation as I have no direct experience doing so. But, I have never actually travelled outside of Canada so I haven't had the opportunity to consider it. (No, I wouldn't bother taking one to a cottage for a week. I don't think my wife would appreciate it. ;))
How are you replying to me about this, but not where I quoted you showing the inaccuracies in your calculations?

I know your reading comprehension isn't all there from that interaction, but I said nothing about escorts at different rates being less professional, I said sugar babies and the like are less professional. The line you bolded says the providers at more affordable rates (for those who think my rates are unaffordable) are far safer to take on trips than sugar babies, because providers are professionals.
 
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