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onomatopoeia

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Lots of men would like to drink a bottle of Domaine de la Romanee-Conti Grand Cru red wine, but they never will, because it costs $34K+ per bottle.

Lots of men would like to have a mint condition 1970 Plymouth Barracuda in their garage, but $400K+ is beyond their car budget.

Lots of men would like to own an original painting by Vincent Van Gogh, but they don't have tens of millions of dollars to spend on one.

Some men drink Domaine de la Romanee-Conti Grand Cru frequently, a '70 Barracuda is one of their cars, and they own more than one Van Gogh. To them, $20K is chump change. They might make that more than that in a week just from interest on money in their bank account.

An Escort who charges $20K for a week of her time is necessarily going to have skills and talents that extend beyond the bedroom. Very likely she is well educated, well read, and may speak multiple languages fluently. Those things matter to the man with deep pockets who is not loathe to spending some of his money. An attractive younger woman with minimal education and life experience is unlikely to hold his attention for more than an hour or two.

 

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If you want to travel with a companion I strongly suggest looking into sugar babies, lots of normal everyday women woukd be down for this if you're not weird
 

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An attractive younger woman with minimal education and life experience is unlikely to hold his attention for more than an hour or two.
I think you’re giving people with money way too much credit.
With any luck attractive young women with no education and shitty life experiences have been holding men’s attention for all kind of times from an hour to the rest of men’s life.

Price tag is a different story. A rich man can wear a timex or drive a Toyota but they paid for it accordingly.
for 20k a week it would seem a man should indeed be entitled to hang out with no less than an Ivy League educated nymphomaniac
 
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Vera.Reis

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If you want to travel with a companion I strongly suggest looking into sugar babies, lots of normal everyday women woukd be down for this if you're not weird
Save money, lose professionalism, and most importantly, discretion. A sugar baby is far more likely to black mail you or even just accidentally out you because they do not know better. They do not have the same stigma as sex workers so they are not as worried about being outed, this makes them a huge liability.

But also, a professional feels more obligated to ensure you have a good time and treat you well because we want repeat business and a good reputation, that's how we make money. I'm out of a lot of peoples budgets (@onomatopoeia hit that nail on the head, I'm a law student with 2 undergrads, one STEM one social science, fluent in English and Portuguese, and can get around in Spanish, annnnddd I'm also of an average weight and facially attractive [and funny, in person], I do not agree that those who aren't these things deserve to earn less, but I will agree that these things make clients more willing to pay my rates) but there are plenty of providers who would take 10k and likely even 5k do go with you. You are far safer with them, you might come to regret taking the cheap way out. I also think the going down to the bar and finding your date with 2 guys scenario is far more likely to happen with these non-professionals as well.
 
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I know many people who earn under $100,000/year but have millions in savings and at their age, $20,000 or $30,000 is a small price to pay to spend exclusive time with the women that they want with them with no strings attached. I would never spend that much and I assume most of the guys here won’t or can’t.

As to taking a paid vacation with an SP, I cannot afford to but I have taken trips with SP’s on their own time and had a great time. No expectations of fun time but getting a break from business and having company to do things with was all she wanted. They didn’t expect 5 star hotels or services (ie; spa) or expensive shopping trips.
 

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Just because I'm letting you know your argument is flawed doesn't make me upset.

here's another way to look at it, 16hrs/day x 7 days = 112 hours with me for 20k. 112hrs of seeing a $300/hr provider for an hour at a time is 33.6k, a 500/hr provider 56k, or a 600/hr like me, 67.2k. So, 112 hrs for 20k seems like great "value" when you consider these numbers.

Hopefully the above will help you understand why I said there is nothing objective about your previous statement.
This back and forth is pointless really, there is an easy, very objective way of solving this.

Vera? Have clients booked you before for vacation sessions for a week? If so, have they paid you the $20,000 or so you have asked for and met all your other negotiated demands?
 
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Vera.Reis

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This back and forth is pointless really, there is an easy, very objective way of solving this.

Vera? Have clients booked you before for vacation sessions for a week? If so, have they paid you the $20,000 or so you have asked for and met all your other negotiated demands?
My rates went up this September, you know how it is, new tiddies=new rates, but the highest i was paid for a week was 18k fee, plus about 3k of shopping, and yes the client paid my full rate and agreed to my terms.

Just last month my regular had to cancel a 2 day booking, and paid in full. 10k usd plus a 2.5k cad tip... he never texts between bookings and books in 2-3 emails... so I think I did about 2hrs of work (as he was not feeling well I ubered to him to pick up the balance and spend about 10mins chatting at a distance) for over 15k CAD. He respects my time, and I was already in Orlando, he knew he had to pay in full if he ever wanted to see me again, so his email canceling asked me how I wanted to get the balance. He didn't have to tip, just pay in full, to see me again, and yet he still did.

There's a lot of mutual care and respect between me and my regulars. After I collected the money, I emailed him and let him know I'd be happy to apply a 50% credit from this appointment to a future one. Knowing him he will probably still pay in full, but appreciation goes both ways And him showing me so much respect and care made me want to reciprocate the same.
 

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No they are not the same thing. Just wondering which is better for some guys---apples or oranges.
Start a thread. This thread is about escorts, and as you seem to always do, you have no compunction in taking it off topic. When will you ever have respect for the topic that the OP wishes to discuss? Scholar already told you that you are off topic.

BTW, there have been many, many threads comparing SBs to escorts.

Do you know how to use the search function?
 
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Are you replying to your post # 62 ??
Yeah, I guess so. Is there any difference between a mistress and a sugar baby. Or, is it all semantics?

I think Vera has just said that a sugar baby is:
"A sugar baby is far more likely to black mail you or even just accidentally out you because they do not know better. They do not have the same stigma as sex workers so they are not as worried about being outed, this makes them a huge liability."

BTW: I have no experiences with either Sugar Babies or Vacationing SP's. Anyway, I am a one woman man now after many years in the wilderness.
 
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Vera.Reis

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I'm not sure what you meant in the bolded part of your statement.

With respect to your comment about cheaper providers being less professional, I would say you're talking out of your ass. Much like price not being a guarantee of service, it isn't a guarantee of professionalism. YOU may be a professional, and I'm not doubting that you are, but that doesn't guarantee that another $600/hour provider is the same.

In any event, I formally apologize to the OP for my part in derailing this thread as I have not contributed to the conversation about pros and cons of taking a SP on vacation as I have no direct experience doing so. But, I have never actually travelled outside of Canada so I haven't had the opportunity to consider it. (No, I wouldn't bother taking one to a cottage for a week. I don't think my wife would appreciate it. ;))
How are you replying to me about this, but not where I quoted you showing the inaccuracies in your calculations?

I know your reading comprehension isn't all there from that interaction, but I said nothing about escorts at different rates being less professional, I said sugar babies and the like are less professional. The line you bolded says the providers at more affordable rates (for those who think my rates are unaffordable) are far safer to take on trips than sugar babies, because providers are professionals.
 

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I'm not sure what you meant in the bolded part of your statement.

With respect to your comment about cheaper providers being less professional, I would say you're talking out of your ass. Much like price not being a guarantee of service, it isn't a guarantee of professionalism. YOU may be a professional, and I'm not doubting that you are, but that doesn't guarantee that another $600/hour provider is the same.

In any event, I formally apologize to the OP for my part in derailing this thread as I have not contributed to the conversation about pros and cons of taking a SP on vacation as I have no direct experience doing so. But, I have never actually travelled outside of Canada so I haven't had the opportunity to consider it. (No, I wouldn't bother taking one to a cottage for a week. I don't think my wife would appreciate it. ;))
She did, in her mind, explained why a "professional" escort is a much better choice than a Sugar Baby to take on a vacation. I'm a capitalist, I believe in competition.
 

Vera.Reis

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She did, in her mind, explained why a "professional" escort is a much better choice than a Sugar Baby to take on a vacation. I'm a capitalist, I believe in competition.
How does that have anything to do with competition? Sugar babies can be cheaper, they aren't always, but if the product is of lower quality (in this case the higher risk of having your discretion compromised, as well as the often less professional nature of what they provide because they arent worried about a bad rep negatively affecting future earning, being considered "lower quality") it doesn't influence the rates of those who provide the higher quality product. The price of a car doesn't have any direct influence on the price of a yacht.
 

Vera.Reis

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Excuse me? You didn't show any inaccuracies in my calculations. All you did was explain that the personal time was already built into your daily rate and explain that a longer booking would be discounted. There was nothing for me to respond to as you explained what you meant. You also pointed out that someone could have found your rates by looking at your website.

You have also provided more detail on what you meant by your bolded line by providing more detail. What I bolded and what you say I bolded are not the same thing.

Why would I, or anyone else who wasn't looking to book you, bother looking for your website? This is and was a discussion restricted to this thread.

My reading comprehension is just fine, sweetheart. I suppose as I have already stated that I wouldn't be interested in booking you that you feel fine in slinging insults. Which doesn't bother me much, I have thick enough skin to not be offended. Nice to see your true colours though.

As for my confusion with what you wrote, re-read it. Your short paragraph discussing SB's and their higher likelihood of blackmail and/or 'outing' you was not in the same paragraph where you said that you were more at risk taking the cheap way out. You did, however, state that other SPs would perhaps be willing to accept either $10k or even $5k for a week. The very next sentence was the one that I bolded. So, as I said, it wasn't clear what you meant. Now you have clarified it.
Why would I need to clarify that my 2 date rate already had 2 nights of sleep built into, that's common sense. That wasn't a clarification, that was me pointing out why you calculating the amount of hours I'd have for sleeping over the week and then claiming that this was why my 7 day rate was 20k instead of the 28k that was extrapolated from my 2 day rate, was incorrect. You double counted my hours of sleep, as the extrapolated 28k would already include that, as that 8k rate for 2 days would have logically already taken into account my sleep. What you did would only make sense if we had been talking about hourly rates instead of multi-day rates as of course hourly rates don't account for sleep as they aren't overnight rates.
 

Vera.Reis

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The $4k daily rate was taken from your quote of $8k for a 2 day booking. It's not my fault that the math worked out that 8 hours per night over a 7 day/6 night vacation worked out to exactly 2 days. So, not a correction to my math but a clarification on your personal rate. Again, only available on your website which wasn't looking at/consulted. If you have a desperate need to be right....fine, you're right. Happy?
How would the 8k for 2 nights not ALREADY include 2 nights sleep? Why would you then calculate sleep all over again in an extrapolation? If it's 8k for 2 nights with 2 nights sleep, splitting that would be 4k for 1 night with 1 night sleep. I don't know how else to explain to you that you going and calculating the hours I'll be sleeping, to then deduct that from a number that was extrapolated using a rate that ALREADY included the hours I would be sleeping since it was a multi day rate, is illogical.
 

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the highest i was paid for a week was 18k fee, plus about 3k of shopping, and yes the client paid my full rate and agreed to my terms.
Well then there you go.
So @JuanGoodman, the fact that she is getting any number of customers that is willing to do this means there is obviously enough men out there that see value in it, for her to offer such an option.

You may not. Many other men may not, but I'm sure Vera doesn't care if you or they don't. She cares about the ones that do see value in it, and there is obviously enough to make it worth it for her.
That seems pretty objective to me.
 

madappl3s

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Save money, lose professionalism, and most importantly, discretion. A sugar baby is far more likely to black mail you or even just accidentally out you because they do not know better. They do not have the same stigma as sex workers so they are not as worried about being outed, this makes them a huge liability.

But also, a professional feels more obligated to ensure you have a good time and treat you well because we want repeat business and a good reputation, that's how we make money. I'm out of a lot of peoples budgets (@onomatopoeia hit that nail on the head, I'm a law student with 2 undergrads, one STEM one social science, fluent in English and Portuguese, and can get around in Spanish, annnnddd I'm also of an average weight and facially attractive [and funny, in person], I do not agree that those who aren't these things deserve to earn less, but I will agree that these things make clients more willing to pay my rates) but there are plenty of providers who would take 10k and likely even 5k do go with you. You are far safer with them, you might come to regret taking the cheap way out. I also think the going down to the bar and finding your date with 2 guys scenario is far more likely to happen with these non-professionals as well.
At least you have a good opinion of yourself! But I have yet to see an escort come close to the personality and looks of the 21-28-year-olds SBs.
 
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