Israel at war

Klatuu

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Let's face it, all you see here is "aggression" from Israel, you already forgot about Oct 7, like it didn't happen. I bet you also chose not to acknowledge that Hamas are still firing rockets daily....all you do is beat your dick to the tweets you love reading...then you jizz over it and come on here and post more nonsense tweets...lather rinse repeat...Not really sure if you are Franky/Kautliya...but you all have the same symptoms....cry genocide and apartheid just to stop Hamas from getting wrecked....Gaza is better off being ran by someone who will work towards infrastructures and economy...not "kill jews from river to sea"....that's counter productive...
When you cite Oct 7 as a starting point, your racism is on full display.
 

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Funny how it pales in comparison to....
The Hamas Covenant
Back to the 1988 version and not the updated and not at all genocidal version?
Whatever evil you think Hamas is capable of doing does not excuse Israel for doing the same or worse to Palestinians.

You can't say Hamas are evil nazis and then become evil nazis yourself to fight them.
All you do is lose the moral war and the world's support, as Israel has done.

Netanyahu is fucked right now. He can't get the hostages back without a ceasefire but if he stops fighting his career is over and the war will be declared a failure because Hamas still exists. But Israelis are super pissed that he killed 3 hostages and more keep dying as he blows up all of Gaza. He's lost Biden and all global support but can't stop.


Why the war on Gaza is not making Israel safer

The more info that comes out the faster zionism will end.
You may support genocide because you think Hamas are evil but the world just sees genocide on an indigenous people living under a 75 year old occupation.

Now they are being bombed, starved and refused medical care as they get sick.



 
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Leimonis

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Hamas said they attacked to resist against settlers storming Al Aqsa, West Bank settlement increases and settler terrorist attacks. Those are all legit and legal justification for violent resistance to an illegal occupation.

We still don't know how many civilians they killed on Oct 7, but that number keeps going down and more and more evidence of Israeli over reaction and use of the Hannibal directive shows they used tanks and Apaches on Israeli homes and civilians.

Your claims of Hamas' genocidal intent does not justify Israeli genocide in response. Nothing justifies genocide.

We are at the point where the world sees zionism as nazi like in language and acts. You talk about 'Hamas' or Palestinians the same way Nazis talked about Jews in WWII. And now we see the same brutality and genocidal intent.

That you don't or won't see it is a reminder on the frailty of human morality and the ability of some to become totally inhumane.
This will be the end of zionism.




I have another question: why do you think more ppl on terb support israel rather than hamas?

(i have my own theory which is that Hamas supporters are largely losers who cannot afford hobbying so they are underrepresented here)
 
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Back to the 1988 version and not the updated and not at all genocidal version?
Whatever evil you think Hamas is capable of doing does not excuse Israel for doing the same or worse to Palestinians.

You can't say Hamas are evil nazis and then become evil nazis yourself to fight them.
All you do is lose the moral war and the world's support, as Israel has done.

Netanyahu is fucked right now. He can't get the hostages back without a ceasefire but if he stops fighting his career is over and the war will be declared a failure because Hamas still exists. But Israelis are super pissed that he killed 3 hostages and more keep dying as he blows up all of Gaza. He's lost Biden and all global support but can't stop.


Why the war on Gaza is not making Israel safer

The more info that comes out the faster zionism will end.
You may support genocide because you think Hamas are evil but the world just sees genocide on an indigenous people living under a 75 year old occupation.

Now they are being bombed, starved and refused medical care as they get sick.



Gaza being pillaged by Hamas...nice try..
 

richaceg

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Hamas said they attacked to resist against settlers storming Al Aqsa, West Bank settlement increases and settler terrorist attacks. Those are all legit and legal justification for violent resistance to an illegal occupation.
Nice try, all these happened, Hamas already wanted to kill jews....you're just making excuses for their terrorism at this point....there is no legal justification to terrorism franky....ZERO...unless you support terrorists...
 

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The ones who started it were the Israelis. First, via manipulation of the colonial powers and forced (funded) immigration - mind you the formation of Israel was illegitimate, unnecessary and a direct result of colonial and WW1 politics. And even if we were to ignore that and fast forward to 1967, the building of settlements, apartheid and violent dispossession of the Palestinians was entirely Israel's fault. Infact the 1967 war, was initiated by the Israelis under the narrative of "pre-emptive attacks", but regardless of what it was called, it was an attack started by Israel. The October 7, attack is just one conflict in a multi-decade conflict, so cannot and should not be looked at it in isolation, unless you are a racist, genocide apologist, who just needs an excuse.

You would and are, very naive to even believe, that Gaza will be "handed over" to Palestinian leadership. No. Israel is going to occupy northern Gaza, and maintain, "security control", and then in come the settlers.

Which is why I foresee a natural one-state solution down the line at some point. There is just no other way this could go. The only other option is ethnic cleansing and genocide, which you seem to be actively supporting.
Yeah like anybody wants to settle on this cursed land which even Egypt doesn’t want to touch with a ten feet pole
 
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You would and are, very naive to even believe, that Gaza will be "handed over" to Palestinian leadership. No. Israel is going to occupy northern Gaza, and maintain, "security control", and then in come the settlers.

Which is why I foresee a natural one-state solution down the line at some point. There is just no other way this could go. The only other option is ethnic cleansing and genocide, which you seem to be actively supporting.
Israel will win this war, so there will be no one state solution, since that is not the solution Israel wants. A two state solution will REQUIRE handing over adminstration of Gaza to a Palestinian authority, so that is what will be done.

I won't bother with a detailed response to your take on the history of the region or your stupid claim about ethnic cleansing You have it wrong, and the whole world knows it, including the Arab nations, which is why no one is rushing in to "save" Hamas from defeat.
 
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The ones who started it were the Israelis. First, via manipulation of the colonial powers and forced (funded) immigration - mind you the formation of Israel was illegitimate, unnecessary and a direct result of colonial and WW1 politics. And even if we were to ignore that and fast forward to 1967, the building of settlements, apartheid and violent dispossession of the Palestinians was entirely Israel's fault. Infact the 1967 war, was initiated by the Israelis under the narrative of "pre-emptive attacks", but regardless of what it was called, it was an attack started by Israel. The October 7, attack is just one conflict in a multi-decade conflict, so cannot and should not be looked at it in isolation, unless you are a racist, genocide apologist, who just needs an excuse.

You would and are, very naive to even believe, that Gaza will be "handed over" to Palestinian leadership. No. Israel is going to occupy northern Gaza, and maintain, "security control", and then in come the settlers.

Which is why I foresee a natural one-state solution down the line at some point. There is just no other way this could go. The only other option is ethnic cleansing and genocide, which you seem to be actively supporting.
Looking at Oct 7 as "one conflict in a Multi-decade conflict" gives you an excuse to call anybody "racist" for calling it an atrocity...nice try...you're a jew hater...
 

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I have another question: why do you think more ppl on terb support israel rather than hamas?

(i have my own theory which is that Hamas supporters are largely losers who cannot afford hobbying so they are underrepresented here)
The way you frame that question is your answer.
The question should be why do you support zionism over indigenous rights.
Or why do you support Israel over Palestine, or why do you support apartheid over human rights.

You and the Israel supporters are constantly trying to conflate Zionism with antisemitism and Palestinians with Hamas, both are just disinformation.
I have Palestinian and Jewish friends, it was the Jewish friends who turned me on to the situation years ago and the Palestinian friends who confirmed it, they aren't allowed to be as vocal up until 2021.

Your other theory is hilarious.

The question I ask is why the 'never again' crowd is 'doing it again' .


More than 90 percent of Gaza facing ‘crisis levels’ of hunger: UN-backed report

“At least one in four households (more than half a million people) in the Gaza Strip are facing catastrophic acute food insecurity conditions (IPC Phase 5 – Catastrophe), characterized by extreme food gaps and collapse of their livelihood,” the report said. “About 80% of the population in [the] Gaza Strip are in Emergency (IPC Phase 4) or Catastrophe (IPC Phase 5).”
 
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Looking at Oct 7 as "one conflict in a Multi-decade conflict" gives you an excuse to call anybody "racist" for calling it an atrocity...nice try...you're a jew hater...
The problem, rich, is that you're now calling some Jews 'Jew haters'.
IJV Canada, IfNotNow and other Jewish groups represent a good part of the Jewish population who you think are 'Jew haters'.
I've marched with them.


They also note that this was posted before Oct 7
 
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Frankfooter

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Gaza being pillaged by Hamas...nice try..
Nobody believes that, rich.
Israel chose to drop 2 Hiroshima's worth of bombs on Gaza.
Israel chose the blockade, occupation, apartheid and genocide.

You're just using shack's wife beater's defence 'they made us do it'.
Israel had the choice and they chose.

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