Israel at war
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12,133 posts since 10/7/27. Israel has been at war over 2 millennia. Not enough band width in the universe...
Now Israelis are running polls on whether an Al Jazeera journalist should be murdered.
People like you always want to cherry pick your references to history. What MATTERS is who starts fights, and in EVERY instance, over and over again, Israel has RESPONDED to aggressive acts by its Arab neighbours, including stateless Palestinians. EVERYTHING Israel had done has to be assessed in that context. Bullies, who the Arabs/Palestinians have attempted to be in relation to Israel, NEVER get to complain of taking a black eye in response to their bullying. Your analogy is completely off the mark.
You don't get this, and won't ever get this. As a result of your mental block, the dialogue in this thread has become pointless. It would be best to wait for significant new developments, such as when (not if) Israel dismantles enough of Hamas to broker a handover of authority to new Palestinian leadership. We're probably months away from that. Until then, as in every war, people will continue to die, because Hamas doesn't care enough about Palestinian civilians to surrender. Blame Hamas for that. A reasonable person would.
Important. The culprits are being identified. Their names need to be publicized
If targeted attacks on civilians are justified as retaliation for targeted attacks on civilians then that should save you from having to post anything further in this thread. However, you'll have to let your ally Kautilya know that you are not on the same page.
That’s an odd response given that you just shrieked in your previous post that Israel only responds to attacks. Even you don’t believe it….lol. Why do you think I posted it?
I didn't/don't agree that you had your facts correct. I accepted your assestion of fact for the sake of making a point. Don't you understand that I was pointing out the irrationality of your argument?
Let's face it, all you see here is "aggression" from Israel, you already forgot about Oct 7, like it didn't happen. I bet you also chose not to acknowledge that Hamas are still firing rockets daily....all you do is beat your dick to the tweets you love reading...then you jizz over it and come on here and post more nonsense tweets...lather rinse repeat...Not really sure if you are Franky/Kautliya...but you all have the same symptoms....cry genocide and apartheid just to stop Hamas from getting wrecked....Gaza is better off being ran by someone who will work towards infrastructures and economy...not "kill jews from river to sea"....that's counter productive...
Hamas said they attacked to resist against settlers storming Al Aqsa, West Bank settlement increases and settler terrorist attacks. Those are all legit and legal justification for violent resistance to an illegal occupation.
We still don't know how many civilians they killed on Oct 7, but that number keeps going down and more and more evidence of Israeli over reaction and use of the Hannibal directive shows they used tanks and Apaches on Israeli homes and civilians.
Your claims of Hamas' genocidal intent does not justify Israeli genocide in response. Nothing justifies genocide.
We are at the point where the world sees zionism as nazi like in language and acts. You talk about 'Hamas' or Palestinians the same way Nazis talked about Jews in WWII. And now we see the same brutality and genocidal intent.
That you don't or won't see it is a reminder on the frailty of human morality and the ability of some to become totally inhumane.
This will be the end of zionism.
As the sane people on this board have repeatedly said, Israel will never get rid of Hamas and this genocidal attack will only turn another generation against Israel along with the world turning against zionism.Meanwhile hamas thanked Canada for their support
'EMBARRASSING:' Hamas thanks Liberal gov't for ceasefire support
A spokesperson for Hamas thanked the Liberal government following Canada's vote in favour of a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas war.torontosun.com
Trudeau, one of the 3 most hard core Israeli supporters in power, says that Israel has lost the world.
Nobody can support zionism after genocide.
"The voices from Israel's strongest friends, like Canada, like Australia, especially like the United States ... are becoming increasingly concerned that … the short-term actions being taken by Israel are actually putting at risk the long-term safety and even support for a Jewish state into the future," Trudeau told Barton.
Last week Biden warned the same thing, and he's the #1 zionist supporter in the world.
"Israel's security can rest on the United States, but right now it has more than the United States. It has the European Union, it has Europe, it has most of the world supporting them,'' Biden said. "They're starting to lose that support by indiscriminate bombing that takes place."
Today is another UN SC ceasefire vote, if they don't delay it again. Will Biden finally stop the genocide?
CBC is posting stories like this, nobody can support zionism now.
In Gaza, thousands of aid workers risk their lives on mission to ensure the well-being of others
UN says death toll of its aid workers is higher than for any previous conflict
Nobody can back this government.
‘I Don’t Care About Gaza, I Want to See Dead Bodies of Terrorists’ – Israeli Politician
You're further gone than I thought. Nothing you post makes any sense at this point.
So Israel, after 10 weeks and more than two Hiroshima's worth of bombs hasn't slowed Hamas and only killed 20,000 mostly women and children?
What a total failure.
All they've done is make Gaza totally unliveable, after this they will have to let the people of Gaza back into the rest of the country.
And not only have they not destroyed Hamas, they are now more respected globally than before.
US intel analysis says Hamas influence up since start of war: Report
A new analysis by US intelligence agencies has found that the credibility and influence have risen dramatically since October 7, according to a CNN report.
The US-based network quoted officials familiar with the different assessments as saying that Hamas has successfully positioned itself across some Arab and Muslim countries as a defender of the Palestinian cause and an effective fighter against Israel.
Total f'ng disaster for Israel and the people of Gaza.
It will take decades to fix Gaza and decades for Israel to overcome zionism and genocide.
Funny how it pales in comparison to....
The Hamas Covenant
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The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS, is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad (Islamic Holy War). The following are excerpts of the HAMAS Covenant:
Goals of the HAMAS:
"The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine."
On the destruction of Israel:
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (Preamble)
The exclusive Moslem nature of the area:
"The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession] consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it."
"Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem wherever he may be."
The call to jihad:
"The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised."
"Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about."
Rejection of a negotiated peace settlement:
"[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility."
Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty:
"Egypt was, to a great extent, removed from the circle of struggle [against Zionism] through the treacherous Camp David Agreement. The Zionists are trying to draw other Arab countries into similar agreements in order to bring them outside the circle of struggle. ...Leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism is high treason, and cursed be he who perpetrates such an act."
Anti-Semitic incitement:
The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him."
"The enemies have been scheming for a long time ... and have accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money, they took control of the world media... With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the globe... They stood behind the French Revolution, the Communist Revolution and most of the revolutions we hear about... With their money they formed secret organizations - such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and the Lions - which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies and carry out Zionist interests... They stood behind World War I ... and formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains... There is no war going on anywhere without them having their finger in it." (Article 22)
"Zionism scheming has no end, and after Palestine, they will covet expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates River. When they have finished digesting the area on which they have laid their hand, they will look forward to more expansion. Their scheme has been laid out in the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'." (Article 32)
"The HAMAS regards itself the spearhead and the vanguard of the circle of struggle against World Zionism... Islamic groups all over the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best equipped for their future role in the fight against the warmongering Jews."
