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Israel has 62 UN resolutions....
And look at the racist moving the goal sticks. You have obsessively used the ICC not having commented on Hamas as an excuse to not criticize them but now the ICC is clear and you're crying about it.

Just makes clear that human rights have NEVER been your concern.
 
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And look at the racist moving the goal sticks. You have obsessively used the ICC not having commented on Hamas as an excuse to not criticize them but now the ICC is clear and you're crying about it.

Just makes clear that human rights have NEVER been your concern.
I still back the ICC, I expect even with Khan there he won't be able to destroy the institution.
He can't screw up the trials even if he can try to dismiss charges against Israel.

But you're still trashing Amnesty, the ICC, HRW, the UN, ICRC and every single human rights organization in the world.
You're down to finding one person at the ICC and clinging to the hope he can stop the flood.

Think he'll be looking at ZAZA now?
 

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And if Israel is cut off from US money and BDS sanctions take place they will have less money to kill Palestinians.
Win/win
Until that happens how many more Gazan lives will be lost/lost.

Oh yeah. I forgot. You don't care.
 

Frankfooter

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Until that happens how many more Gazan lives will be lost/lost.

Oh yeah. I forgot. You don't care.
So lets hope it happens very soon.
So people from both sides stop being killed.

Today's word is 'intifada', which like 'genocide' is now antisemitic.
As antisemitic as saying 'free Palestine' or 'equal rights' or 'stop killing babies'.

Its really hard to be politically correct right now.

An intifada (Arabic: انتفاضة intifāḍah) is a rebellion or uprising, or a resistance movement. It is a key concept in contemporary Arabic usage referring to a uprising against oppression.[1]

 

Leimonis

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So lets hope it happens very soon.
So people from both sides stop being killed.

Today's word is 'intifada', which like 'genocide' is now antisemitic.
As antisemitic as saying 'free Palestine' or 'equal rights' or 'stop killing babies'.

Its really hard to be politically correct right now.

An intifada (Arabic: انتفاضة intifāḍah) is a rebellion or uprising, or a resistance movement. It is a key concept in contemporary Arabic usage referring to an uprising against oppression.
Does it concern you a little that the second intifada manifested in numerous suicide bombings at bus stops and cafes and other acts of terror?
Is it for a black person to interpret whether an n-word is offensive or is it for a white person to go into semantics and say “ oh it just means black which is not inaccurate so there’s nothing wrong with it”
 

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So lets hope it happens very soon.
Hope is not a plan or a strategy.

If you truly want "soon" here's an actual plan:

Hamas needs to surrender and release the hostages. Death and destruction in Gaza stops immediately.

Tell us how many more Palestinian deaths is fine by you until this "hope" of yours happens, because that is what you are calling for and supporting.

Having said that, you've already stated that getting Israel to pay more reparations is worth the price of seeing more Palestinians (whom you deem expendable) die. You reaffirm this about yourself every time you spew your two-faced rhetoric.
 

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Does it concern you a little that the second intifada manifested in numerous suicide bombings at bus stops and cafes and other acts of terror?
Is it for a black person to interpret whether an n-word is offensive or is it for a white person to go into semantics and say “ oh it just means black which is not inaccurate so there’s nothing wrong with it”
Suicide bombing was a super desperate form of resistance, not nearly as glorified as the american 'dive on the hand grenade and save the company' type of suicide. It was troubling both to realize how incredibly desperate Palestinians were and how that was used sometimes to target civilians.

Of course the best way to end the resistance or intifada is to end the occupation and apartheid and stop stealing Palestinian land through new 'settlements'. Why has Israel announced two new settlement plans at the same time they are committing genocide?

Right now Palestinians are getting more and more desperate due to lack of food, water, housing, power, heating and medical care.
If you don't want a return to even more desperate methods of resistance you should stop backing genocide and think of a way to end the occupation and apartheid.

 

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Hope is not a plan or a strategy.

If you truly want "soon" here's an actual plan:

Hamas needs to surrender and release the hostages. Death and destruction in Gaza stops immediately.

Tell us how many more Palestinian deaths is fine by you until this "hope" of yours happens, because that is what you are calling for and supporting.

Having said that, you've already stated that getting Israel to pay more reparations is worth the price of seeing more Palestinians (whom you deem expendable) die. You reaffirm this about yourself every time you spew your two-faced rhetoric.
If Hamas 'surrendered' and Israel did as they said they'd do and went in and killed them all and everyone in their families it would not fix the situation.
It would stall it while the next resistance starts up, Israel wouldn't end the blockade, occupation, apartheid or ongoing colonization of Palestine.

All it would do is lay the grounds for the next, and even bigger battle with Palestinians.

The only way this stops is Biden grows some balls and stops Netanyahu and the world forces Israel to end apartheid through sanctions.

Your plan for Palestinian submission will not bring peace, just a much worse form of apartheid and occupation.



 

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Israel gets $3.8 billion in free bombs from the US, all for a few hundred million in AIPAC 'donations'.
That's a great return on investment for AIPAC. Not so great for US taxpayers.
 

Leimonis

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That's a great return on investment for AIPAC. Not so great for US taxpayers.
yeah US taxpayers should surrender the middle east to Iran and it's proxies and surrender Eastern Europe to Putin and hope that the future will be bright since they saved so much money
 

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Of course the best way to end the resistance or intifada is to end the occupation and apartheid and stop stealing Palestinian land through new 'settlements'.
We've discussed this ad nauseum and everybody agrees that the fastest, most humanitarian way to end this is for Hamas to agree to an unconditional surrender and release all the hostages. The war would be over tomorrow.

Frank prefers if a few thousand more Palestinian women and children die first so that Israel has to pay more in reparations
 

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yeah US taxpayers should surrender the middle east to Iran and it's proxies and surrender Eastern Europe to Putin and hope that the future will be bright since they saved so much money
They don't need to defend other countries' borders. They need to defend their own borders. Just like Ukraine and Israel need to defend their own borders.

The future will be brighter when US politicians put their own country ahead of their foreign masters.
 

Leimonis

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They don't need to defend other countries' borders. They need to defend their own borders. Just like Ukraine and Israel need to defend their own borders.

The future will be brighter when US politicians put their own country ahead of their foreign masters.
Yeah I’m surprised why would USA fight hitler in ww2
must have been those pesky foreign masters
 
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yeah US taxpayers should surrender the middle east to Iran and it's proxies and surrender Eastern Europe to Putin and hope that the future will be bright since they saved so much money
At least they can buy some oil off of Iran.
What do they get from Israel besides Pegasus monitoring and being hated by the rest of the world?
 
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