Both hearsay...until evidence is presented...you know what evidence is or not?
The Israel Lobby
- Thread starter southpaw
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No it's not...they are not witnesses they are complainants...
So Americans aren't allowed to lobby on foreign policy if they're Jews? At the same time you sure seem to be supportive of Americans lobbying on behalf of foreigners in Palestine.
Because you have the racist conspiracy belief that Jews must be working for Israel and not their own country. There is constant lobbying from Americans in support of foreign countries either because they have connections or business interests there.
Hmm. You rejected the testimony of the British doctor about Hamas in the hospital. Like always, your only criteria for deciding on a source is whether or not they hate Israel.
Yeah propaganda. I said ages ago, the outcome of this war will be decided in eastern Urkaine, wayyy back when people like you expected Urkaine to crush the Russian army and be hoisting the Ukrainian flag over Sevastopol by now
Slava Ukaraini = FEED THE MEAT GRINDER. It a tragedy for Ukraine that people like you are cheerleading. Fight the Russians to the last Ukrainian! Now good 'ol Zelensky is prepping for his very own twilight of the angels.
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Same rule for all foreign countries, basketcase.
Same rules for Canada, you don't let foreign countries funnel money in to buy politicians favour.
Why would you think Israel is the only one that this doesn't apply to?
Its in their frigging mandate and description, its hardly a conspiracy theory.
Really, you're getting more and more out to lunch.
I took it into consideration against the testimonies of a bunch of other doctors, including MSF, who had been there much longer.
You should try and do the same, but you're only interested in finding whatever you can to support your genocide.
Israel is back to killing Palestinians again.
You think this is smart?
It isn't though.That is an unnecessary qualification, that the people handing over the money to AIPAC be foreigners.
FARA requires those who receive funds or act on behalf of a foreign government to register as a foreign agent.
From AIPAC's site:
WE STAND with those who stand with Israel. The AIPAC PAC is a bipartisan, pro-Israel political action committee. It is the largest pro-Israel PAC in America and contributed more resources directly to candidates than any other PAC. 98% of AIPAC-backed candidates won their general election races in 2022.
AIPAC is acting on behalf of Israel with massive amounts of cash that come through a handful of donors but whose sources aren't tracked.
Pro-Israel Recipients
See aggregated party breakdowns and incumbency status of recipients of contributions from Pro-Israel industries/interest groups for every election cycle from 1998 to 2024.www.opensecrets.org
That's reason enough to list it as foreign.
I actually think there is a strong case for registering AIPAC under FARA.
But it lives in a gray zone now and the answer to "why isn't this a bigger deal than it is" is that "rich assholes offer lots of money to a candidate's campaign if they support their position" is commonplace in the USA.
It could be.
It fits the definition under FARA.
The fact that it hasn't been applied yet doesn't mean it shouldn't be now.
Netanyahu will cost Biden the election.
I have no idea why Biden is still backing Israel at this point, but I expect that by letting the genocide go way too far is going to make support of Israel become toxic. There is still a lot of money there, but its just way too unpopular even for the US.
That will make listing AIPAC as foreign under FARA possible.
And your proof of this is what, exactly?
This is an argument you are making, and one they deny.
Without solid proof, this becomes a difference of opinion.
From AIPAC's site:
WE STAND with those who stand with Israel. The AIPAC PAC is a bipartisan, pro-Israel political action committee. It is the largest pro-Israel PAC in America and contributed more resources directly to candidates than any other PAC. 98% of AIPAC-backed candidates won their general election races in 2022.
We both know these decisions are political, an academic picayune rationale that you need to fit all of the terms is not the point.
There is more than enough evidence and rationale to fit the terms, all it takes it the political will.
That's not proof.
Or do you believe that no Americans can lobby the government about anything involving foreign policy in any way?
A millionaire lobbying in favor of accepting the Iran nuclear deal would have to be FARA as well, I presume?
I'd say lobbyists who clearly say they are working in the interests of a foreign country, not America, should be labelled as foreign lobbyists, regardless of the citizenship of the people who hand over the money.
Do you really think AIPAC is any different from AZC?
AIPAC was essentially AZC rebuilt to try to avoid FARA.
