Israel at war

[Butler1000]

Okay, the plan you support and want to see become reality. You know, this one;

The key word there.....

Is But.

As in, I support Israel.....BUT THE END GAME WILL END UP BEING.....

As in, looking at it objectively, what ever anyone says, that is the going to be the end game because neither side will accept peace.

So its not about what I WANT. Its about what both sides actions will inevitably result in. I get it, you are emotionally involved. I'm not. All I see is wasted lives, wasted opportunity. But they aren't worth my emotions . People hell bent on their own destruction don't deserve it.

 

[versitile1]

The key word there.....

Is But.

As in, I support Israel.....BUT THE END GAME WILL END UP BEING.....

As in, looking at it objectively, what ever anyone says, that is the going to be the end game because neither side will accept peace.

So its not about what I WANT. Its about what both sides actions will inevitably result in. I get it, you are emotionally involved. I'm not. All I see is wasted lives, wasted opportunity. But they aren't worth my emotions . People hell bent on their own destruction don't deserve it.

No. You are emotionally involved because you constantly feel the need to try to justify and defend your love of ethnic cleansing and collective punishment.

Maybe "want," wasn't the best word to use. How about this;

The plan you support and need to see become reality.

 

[Butler1000]

No. You are emotionally involved because you constantly feel the need to try to justify and defend your love of ethnic cleansing and collective punishment.

Is it an ESL issue? I can try to accommodate you on your lack of comprehension if thats the case.

 

[versitile1]

Is it an ESL issue? I can try to accommodate you on your lack of comprehension if thats the case.

Nice, trying to make things personal. See how emotionally involved you are?

 

[Butler1000]

Nice, trying to make things personal. See how emotionally involved you are?

No, I'm serious, because the alternative is you just are incapable of understanding nuance.

 

[richaceg]

You just said the 20,000 IDF estimated dead were all hamas. You see all Palestinians as hamas and you think little kids and babies deserve to be bombed and buried under the rubble, just because of where they were born.

So not only can you determine facts you also have reading problems...

 

[richaceg]

Where is that in the 2017 charter?

So tell me what the 2017 charter says and then tell me if Oct 7 was part of 2017 charter....

 

[xmontrealer]

Now over 10,000 posts in the thread. Mazel Tov!

 

[Butler1000]

Thank you for contributing the 10,031st one. Yay me for #10,032.



One could describe your posts and your vision for the Palestinians as anything, but nuanced.

Hey thanks....thats an opinion you shared.

 

[Butler1000]

So not only can you determine facts you also have reading problems...

I hope not, the alternative can't be corrected.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Israel has resumed the war with airstrikes

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-hamas-truce-eighth-day-1.7045904

 

[versitile1]

So not only can you determine facts you also have reading problems...

You just said the IDF estimated 20,000 dead were all hamas. You see all Palestinians as hamas. You think little children and babies deserve to be bombed and buried under rubble because of where they were born.

 

[versitile1]

No, I'm serious, because the alternative is you just are incapable of understanding nuance.

What nuance? You believe the only solution to this conflict is ethnic cleansing and collective punishment of Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank. You try to justify this by; painting all Palestinians and Muslims with the same brush, blaming the majority for the actions of a few, bringing up past, unrelated conflicts, and mentioning the Tamil Tigers.

Now you try to make it personal because the plan you back is despised by everyone, and now all you can do is lash out at me.

 

[versitile1]

I hope not, the alternative can't be corrected.

See, more personal attacks and lashing out at me because the plan of ethnic cleansing and collecting punishment for Palestinians of West Bank and Gaza that you support is thoroughly despised by everyone.

 

[mandrill]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1730561479970025971

 

[richaceg]

You just said the IDF estimated 20,000 dead were all hamas. You see all Palestinians as hamas. You think little children and babies deserve to be bombed and buried under rubble because of where they were born.

I wrote it carefully for you....IDF claimed they estimated 20k kills...of Hamas... now I would say if they killed 20k of hamas....now if that's their statement, I'm assuming it doesn't include collateral damage...so far nobody is stating how many civilians were killed. If Hamas says 11k... that would be. 20k hamas + 11k civilians (If Hamas are honest)...now I hope your math is better than how you read....

 

[Butler1000]

What nuance? You believe the only solution to this conflict is ethnic cleansing and collective punishment of Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank. You try to justify this by; painting all Palestinians and Muslims with the same brush, blaming the majority for the actions of a few, bringing up past, unrelated conflicts, and mentioning the Tamil Tigers.

Now you try to make it personal because the plan you back is despised by everyone, and now all you can do is lash out at me.

See, more comprehension issues. I said the only way towards a peaceful resolution was a real leader of the Palestinians to rise and convince them to negotiate a peace. To be able to remove the extremism from the population and progress forward. That is my preferred personal choice.

And without that, that continuing to perpetuate war without compromise will result in their destruction. Because they have no friends, no allies, and are in too deep now to wiggle out of things. That is the unfortunate reality. The world, and especially their Arab Muslim neighbours, will stand by and watch this happen, as they themsrlves eventually make peace with Israel.

Show me the leader who can lead the Palestinians out of the wilderness. Otherwise prepare yourself for the worst in the long run.

 

[Butler1000]

See, more personal attacks and lashing out at me because the plan of ethnic cleansing and collecting punishment for Palestinians of West Bank and Gaza that you support is thoroughly despised by everyone.

If its so despised then why is every nation standing by?

 

[richaceg]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1730561479970025971

Franky & versatile1 while reading that statement....

 

[mandrill]

What nuance? You believe the only solution to this conflict is ethnic cleansing and collective punishment of Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank. You try to justify this by; painting all Palestinians and Muslims with the same brush, blaming the majority for the actions of a few, bringing up past, unrelated conflicts, and mentioning the Tamil Tigers.

Now you try to make it personal because the plan you back is despised by everyone, and now all you can do is lash out at me.

There is no "ethnic cleansing and collective punishment".

Honestly, you guys read from the same memorized script that you get from attending far too many "Socialist Activists for Cooperative Non-Capitalist Resistance against Transexclusionary Anti-indigenous Imperialism" meetings.

Unless you're using your own jargon, you can't function. It's like Scientologists talking about "Clear" or "Not-Clear" and other pseudo concepts that they've been drilled in.