Israel at war
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Shhhhh! Evidence-based opinions required instead of clearly "making shit up" to make yourself feel better. Don't make yourself look dumb. You know this is easy to confirm.
Jews in Islamic Countries: IranJews of Iran
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Jewish Population
1948: 100,000 | 2022: 9,200
10% of the 1948 population.
Wow, what a very safe place to live. No wonder Jews are flocking to Iran.
For a comparison, let's see how Muslims fare in Israel huh?
1947 1,181,000Population of Israel/Palestine by Religion (1553-Present)
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2023 2,065,000
~2x the 1947 population.
Wow, what a very safe place to live. No wonder Muslims are flocking to Israel.
10,000 is a fairly large population of Jews in Iran. And the fact that they're not getting bombed like the Palestinian civilians in Gaza means that Iran treats their Jews better than Israel treats Palestinian civilians in Gaza and the West Bank.
Logic is obviously not your strong point.
The very fact that you say 10,0000 Jews in a Muslim country is large is very telling. You’ve said the quiet part out loud.
False comparison. Gaza & the West Bank are essentially occupied territories because the Palestinians can’t be trusted to not break cease fires and massacre civilians. They are not Israeli citizens and are treated accordingly.
Compare how a very very small population of Jews are treated in Iran to how a large population of Palestinians are treated within Israel as full citizens where they have the right to vote, protest, travel, and IIRC Hadash even formed part of the coalition government In 2021 Via the democratic process, not merely reserved tokenism seats like Iran. A very telling & significant difference.
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The Jew haters like gryphon and Frankie ignore the fact that the Hamas massacre was perpetrated during a ceasefire.
At the end of the day, they’re far left and thus they cotton to fascism and violence so it’s no wonder. Horseshoe theory of Politics.
Lol.
I could easily be wrong. But I’m also fairly sure 10,000 Jews in Iran. Haven’t risen up and killed raped, mutilated etc a few thousand Iranians while they slept.
I suspect, while purely speculation we can imagine what would happen if Jews did such a thing. My guess, the response would be extremely harsh……….likely harsher than Israel’s.
I could easily be wrong. But I’m also fairly sure 10,000 Jews in Iran. Haven’t risen up and killed raped, mutilated etc a few thousand Iranians while they slept.
I suspect, while purely speculation we can imagine what would happen if Jews did such a thing. My guess, the response would be extremely harsh……….likely harsher than Israel’s.
I don’t think it is a left right issue as you find equal measures of Jew hatred on the far left and right. I also think you find a greater acceptance of fascism on the right than the left.
Perhaps, but “lived experience“ as good friends with a Rabbi. He has more problems with the caring & inclusive Left as they tend to give the fuck-you smile While doing the same shit. Don’t mistake silence for ‘doesn’t happen’.
As for acceptance of fascism ( really dictatorship, or ‘supportive of coercion‘ as fascism is very nebulous), we only have to look at what sort of governments over the last, say 100 years, are responsible for most of humanity’s problems (e.g Lenin, pol pot, and so on).
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Tell that to your buddy Phil. Oh yeah, you don't want to cause a glitch in your zionist group think/echo chamber.
Tell that to your buddy Phil. Oh yeah, you don't want to cause a glitch in your zionist group think/echo chamber.
That’s beyond creepy. Implying that Israeli soldiers had legitimate cause to murder babies.
There's no need for the Jews in Iran to do so. The Jews there are citizens. They aren't trapped in an open air prison like Gaza, where the Palestinian civilians are subject a 17 year long blockade, have their caloric intake monitored and restricted by occupiers, get shot when they protest near a fence, etc. So yeah, compared to Israel's treatment of Palestinians, Phil's assessment that Iran treats their Jews "fairly well" is pretty accurate.
Bit of an odd term. What is fascism?
To me, to a small degree, that word gets thrown around so much these days. In some ways, it’s not unlike who is a terrorist. Kind of depends on who wins, and who writes the books.
At its very very simplest, fascist are authoritarian by nature. That could describe elements both the Left and Right these days. Could also maybe look at who won the culture war, so who gets to write the books….
Nazi Germany.
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To me, to a small degree, that word gets thrown around so much these days. In some ways, it’s not unlike who is a terrorist. Kind of depends on who wins, and who writes the books.
At its very very simplest, fascist are authoritarian by nature. That could describe elements both the Left and Right these days. Could also maybe look at who won the culture war, so who gets to write the books….
Nazi Germany.
rise of fascism in Germany
During the period between the world wars, both Germany and Italy succumbed to authoritarian rule. In Germany, totalitarianism gained popularity in the form of the National…
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So it was Israel that used the hospital for military purposes. Using it as a human shield.
That may be true. No matter how you slice and dice it does Israel and thus Jews have a history of
Murdering, rapping, mutilating Iranians largely ( not sure right word) while Iran “slept”. Breaking peace agreements etc. The comparison if you will has virtually zero relevance…But we do know, what would happen if they did….
I know of a few pretty good Jewish "rappers". Abdominal, Asher Roth (I think he's on 680 news now), Remedy, etc.
Both sides have broken peace agreements. Do you think Israeli settlement building in the West Bank, allowing settlers to take Palestinian homes or raiding Al Aqsa mosque is abiding by "peace agreements"?
The Jews in Iran are citizens there. There's no need for them to lash out because, as Phil stated, they're treated "generally well". The same cannot be said for the Palestinians of Gaza, who essentially have been refugees for the last 75 years.
simple question that’s simply answered.
When was the last time Israeli’s committed what any reasonable person would deem an act of war inside Iran? Until and unless you can provide a date………
A few more, seriously simple questions.
And while Israel is guilty of a number of things within Gaza. Prior to 10/07/23, would any reasonable person consider them acts of war. Are there differences here, between theft and murder?
The last quasi realistic chance at peace and a binding agreement was Oslo. Who flushed that down the drain by importing weapons and bloodshed…?
Who committed what any reasonable person would accept as an act of war, not unlike 9/11 or Pearl Harbor on 10/07/23?
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But you neglect to mention that in a lot of other Muslim countries Jews were persecuted, or were driven out.
Iranians (Persians) are not Arabs btw.
They don't quite have the same hate for Jews as Arabs do
