As of right now I believe there is no proof of life with any of the hostages.
It is possible that most if not all are deceased.
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It is possible that most if not all are deceased.
Yeah, right. What about Hamas? You said that they are terrorists and can't be trusted.
Let me get this straight. You want Israel to say: "We'll stop fighting regardless of what Hamas does." You're getting to be as funny as Fringie.
It has to be a bilateral ceasefire. Negotiations are required. That takes time.
Hamas can surrender and release the hostages without time-consuming negotiations.
I was thinking the same thing....
It's the latest catchphrase that they are using.
That along with...Apartheid, ethnic cleansing, cultural genocide.
You hear them going over and over with the same rhetoric.
Wow a 417 page thread with guys arguing about a conflict that has spanned thousands of years....on a site about hookers lmfao
That was an exercise in rage and delusion . The dumbing down required to be a zionist Is on full display.
Have to say I agree with the following. Extremists on both sides must be discouraged from unjustified violence based solely on hatred.
While I support Israel's attacks in Gaza to eliminate Hamas, I have never been in agreement with the Israeli settlers' crimes against Arabs in the West Bank, when unprovoked.
Copied & pasted from The Jerusalem Post
"US to ban entry to Jewish extremists who attack Palestinians
Story by BY TOVAH LAZAROFF • 37m
The Biden administration seeks to prevent Jewish extremists who attack Palestinians from entering the United States in its harshest stance to date against such West Bank violence.
“I have been emphatic with Israel’s leaders that extremist violence against Palestinians in the West Bank must stop and that those committing the violence must be held accountable,” US President Joe Biden wrote in an opinion piece he published in the Washington Post on Saturday.
“The United States is prepared to take our own steps, including issuing visa bans against extremists attacking civilians in the West Bank,” he stressed.
According to the United Nations, eight Palestinians, including one child, have been killed by settlers in the West Bank and another 74 were injured.
Some 33% of those injuries were caused by live ammunition, the UN stated.
IDF SOLDIERS prevent settlers from entering the village of Deir Sharaf, west of Nablus, in response to a shooting attack last Thursday. (credit: NASSER ISHTAYEH/FLASH90)© Provided by The Jerusalem Post
Biden administration increasingly concerned with extremist violence
The Biden administration is increasingly concerned by the growing number of Jewish extremist attacks that have occurred both before and after the start of the Gaza war.
Its officials have been careful to mention settler violence as it condemns Hamas’ killing of 1,200 people and its seizure of over 239 hostages when it infiltrated southern Israel on October 9.
It has supported Israel’s military campaign to oust Hamas from Gaza in the aftermath of that attack and has spoken of the importance of a two-state resolution to the Israeli-Paelstinian conflict in the aftermath of that war.
“In the months ahead, the United States will redouble our efforts to establish a more peaceful, integrated, and prosperous Middle East — a region where a day like Oct. 7 is unthinkable, “ Biden wrote.
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While I support Israel's attacks in Gaza to eliminate Hamas, I have never been in agreement with the Israeli settlers' crimes against Arabs in the West Bank, when unprovoked.
Copied & pasted from The Jerusalem Post
"US to ban entry to Jewish extremists who attack Palestinians
Story by BY TOVAH LAZAROFF • 37m
The Biden administration seeks to prevent Jewish extremists who attack Palestinians from entering the United States in its harshest stance to date against such West Bank violence.
“I have been emphatic with Israel’s leaders that extremist violence against Palestinians in the West Bank must stop and that those committing the violence must be held accountable,” US President Joe Biden wrote in an opinion piece he published in the Washington Post on Saturday.
“The United States is prepared to take our own steps, including issuing visa bans against extremists attacking civilians in the West Bank,” he stressed.
According to the United Nations, eight Palestinians, including one child, have been killed by settlers in the West Bank and another 74 were injured.
Some 33% of those injuries were caused by live ammunition, the UN stated.
IDF SOLDIERS prevent settlers from entering the village of Deir Sharaf, west of Nablus, in response to a shooting attack last Thursday. (credit: NASSER ISHTAYEH/FLASH90)© Provided by The Jerusalem Post
Biden administration increasingly concerned with extremist violence
The Biden administration is increasingly concerned by the growing number of Jewish extremist attacks that have occurred both before and after the start of the Gaza war.
Its officials have been careful to mention settler violence as it condemns Hamas’ killing of 1,200 people and its seizure of over 239 hostages when it infiltrated southern Israel on October 9.
It has supported Israel’s military campaign to oust Hamas from Gaza in the aftermath of that attack and has spoken of the importance of a two-state resolution to the Israeli-Paelstinian conflict in the aftermath of that war.
“In the months ahead, the United States will redouble our efforts to establish a more peaceful, integrated, and prosperous Middle East — a region where a day like Oct. 7 is unthinkable, “ Biden wrote.
Visit The Jerusalem PostCanadian university fires director for denying Hamas' role in rape, sexual abuse
These lawsuits are only just beginning. Nothing has done more to publicize the apartheid and ethnic cleansing that Palestinians have been subjected to than the fallout from the Hamas and the moronic genocidal Israeli response.
Well, it’s true that too often guys think with the small head. If as is evident in this thread some think that stuff people way more qualified than them have tried, that everything that can realistically has been tried be that ceasefires or Mosad taking out leaders strategically etc hasn’t in this 1000 year conflict or just have to prove who knows what about crimes..Just goes to show we have brains as well as dicks
which head are people using?
I know this will be difficult for the trained seals
Pathetic 
Deport !
US Muslim group claims hit by car driven by man shouting ‘Long live Israel,’ but ‘victim’ faked the whole thing
NORTH RIDGEVILLE, Ohio — A North Olmsted man is facing multiple misdemeanor charges after police say he faked an alleged hate crime attack near North Ridgeville last month.
According to investigators, 20-year-old Hesham A. Ayyad was originally taken to the hospital on Oct. 22 after telling officers he had been hit by a car in an incident that was "racially motivated." He claimed the collision took place on Cook Road in Olmsted Township, and North Ridgeville detectives subsequently began looking into the case.
An article posted the next day by the Council on American-Islamic Relations' Cleveland branch shed more light on Ayyad's version of events. Per the organization, Ayyad claimed he was waking home from lunch when a vehicle approached and the driver rolled his window down. Ayyad reported hearing the driver say things like "Kill all Palestinians" and "Long live Israel" before swerving his car and hitting Ayyad, driving away while screaming, "DIE!"
However, as North Ridgeville police continued to investigate and view surveillance video from the day of the alleged crime, they eventually determined Ayyad had made the whole thing up. A release from the department insists Ayyad not only wasn't struck by a vehicle nor subjected to racial slurs, but that he was actually injured during an earlier fight with his brother, 19-year-old Khalil A. Ayyad. Footage from the scene confirms the altercation occurred, authorities say.
Both Hesham and Khalil Ayyad were arrested Tuesday and charged with domestic violence and assault. In addition, Hersham Ayyad is accused of making false alarms, falsification, and obstructing official business.
The two brothers were released from custody Wednesday after each posted bond. Both are due back on Elyria Municipal Court this coming Tuesday.
Deport !US Muslim group claims hit by car driven by man shouting ‘Long live Israel,’ but ‘victim’ faked the whole thing
NORTH RIDGEVILLE, Ohio — A North Olmsted man is facing multiple misdemeanor charges after police say he faked an alleged hate crime attack near North Ridgeville last month.
According to investigators, 20-year-old Hesham A. Ayyad was originally taken to the hospital on Oct. 22 after telling officers he had been hit by a car in an incident that was "racially motivated." He claimed the collision took place on Cook Road in Olmsted Township, and North Ridgeville detectives subsequently began looking into the case.
An article posted the next day by the Council on American-Islamic Relations' Cleveland branch shed more light on Ayyad's version of events. Per the organization, Ayyad claimed he was waking home from lunch when a vehicle approached and the driver rolled his window down. Ayyad reported hearing the driver say things like "Kill all Palestinians" and "Long live Israel" before swerving his car and hitting Ayyad, driving away while screaming, "DIE!"
However, as North Ridgeville police continued to investigate and view surveillance video from the day of the alleged crime, they eventually determined Ayyad had made the whole thing up. A release from the department insists Ayyad not only wasn't struck by a vehicle nor subjected to racial slurs, but that he was actually injured during an earlier fight with his brother, 19-year-old Khalil A. Ayyad. Footage from the scene confirms the altercation occurred, authorities say.
Both Hesham and Khalil Ayyad were arrested Tuesday and charged with domestic violence and assault. In addition, Hersham Ayyad is accused of making false alarms, falsification, and obstructing official business.
The two brothers were released from custody Wednesday after each posted bond. Both are due back on Elyria Municipal Court this coming Tuesday.
Spanish police beats Muslim/Palestinians. They don't fuck around like the pussies here.
The point is that everything you guys claim is a huuuge overstatement/overly dramatic. You can't just describe things accurately. That was not carpet bombing. Just as there is no apartheid and there is no attempt at ethnic cleansing.
The only time that you guys don't dramatize is when you just outright lie.
Quite possible.
But how many more Gazans/Palestinians are you willing to see die going through this process until you realize that Hamas surrendering and releasing the hostages is the fastest way to end this Oct. 7 war? 1,000? 2,000? 10,000?
I recall you saying that the welfare of the Palestinians is the main focus. How is allowing more to die making their welfare the main focus?
Hamas surrendering, releasing the hostages and then negotiating would be the way the put their welfare first.
As pointed out before, the ceasefire needs to be negotiated first. That takes time.
