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versitile1 said:
Collective punishment. You continual attempts at justifying the killing of the innocent children of Gaza just because of where they were born are pretty disgusting. As if newborn babies in incubators deserve to be bombed. Disgusting indeed.
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name an armed conflict without collateral damage
 
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Butler1000 said:
Lol! Vers is as one note as Franky. You would almost think they get their talking points from the same troll farm......

Desperation is continuing to set in. The Israelis are clearly winning. And the Hamas supporters are just feeling so impotent now.
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Says the one that claims to know what all Muslims that ever existed think, constantly brings up unrelated wars, and supports the collective punishment and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians for something Hamas did, and for what they may or may not do.

Butler1000 said:
Um, I 100% support Israel but the endgame is going to be the removal of most Palestinians. It may take 50 years but its going to happen, with a small amount assimilating.



It and the West Bank and going to be resettled. They have to. Then the borders to the south with Egypt and Jordan can be better secured. And they will have defense in depth. Set up increased Iron Dome placements and secure Tel Aviv.



The Lebanese border and Syrian border will be threats for a while. But removing what are essentially interior security threats will go a long way.
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Leimonis said:
name an armed conflict without collateral damage
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So given the amount of Palestinian elderly, women, children and infants killed in the weeks following the Hamas attack, the IDF response is;

a- yeah, might be a bit excessive.
b- just the right amount dead civilians and bombs and missiles.
c-not enough dead. More bombs and missiles.
 
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So given the amount of Palestinian elderly, women, children and infants killed in the weeks following the Hamas attack, the IDF response is;

a- yeah, might be a bit excessive.
b- just the right amount dead civilians and bombs and missiles.
c-not enough dead. More bombs and missiles.
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I trust their professionalism more than I trust Hamas numbers
 
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versitile1 said:
Says the one that claims to know what all Muslims that ever existed think, constantly brings up unrelated wars, and supports the collective punishment and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians for something Hamas did, and for what they may or may not do.
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I can claim to know what they have been indoctrinated to believe. Its right there in a book.

I get it. You are stuck here, trying to quarterback from your armchair, impotent to change what is happening. My goodness! Social media posts aren't working! And its causing you to feel helpless. Weak, and incapable of changing the course of events.

You are right to feel that way.

One day, thats what the Palestinians got for this. One day of celebration. In exchange for 10x times casualties, and the loss of 7 miles of prime Gaza land. And another decade of misery. Before the next stupid decision on their part. Add in the West clearly showing their support for Israel. And the Muslim world only capable of lip service because they despise the Palestinians.
 
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Butler1000 said:
I can claim to know what they have been indoctrinated to believe. Its right there in a book.

I get it. You are stuck here, trying to quarterback from your armchair, impotent to change what is happening. My goodness! Social media posts aren't working! And its causing you to feel helpless. Weak, and incapable of changing the course of events.

You are right to feel that way.
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Not at all. I just find all your attempts at justifying your calls for ethnic cleansing and collective punishment for the Palestinians hilarious and pathetic at the same time.

One day, thats what the Palestinians got for this. One day of celebration. In exchange for 10x times casualties, and the loss of 7 miles of prime Gaza land. And another decade of misery. Before the next stupid decision on their part. Add in the West clearly showing their support for Israel. And the Muslim world only capable of lip service because they despise the Palestinians.
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You really love ethnic cleansing and collective punishment for Palestinian civilians. The thought of dying Palestinian babies must make you so happy. Monster. You say it may take 50 years for Gaza and the West Bank to be ethnically cleansed of Palestinians, I say good thing you probably won't be around long enough to see your wet dream final solution come true.
 
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versitile1 said:
Not at all. I just find all your attempts at justifying your calls for ethnic cleansing and collective punishment for the Palestinians hilarious and pathetic at the same time.


You really love ethnic cleansing and collective punishment for Palestinian civilians. The thought of dying Palestinian babies must make you so happy. Monster. You say it may take 50 years for Gaza and the West Bank to be ethnically cleansed of Palestinians, I say good thing you probably won't be around long enough to see your wet dream final solution come true.
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At any time, the Palestinians can lay down arms, renounce Jihad, acknowledge the existence of Israel, and gain statehood. The world would be on their side then.

Nobody likes a terrorist state. Except other terrorist states.
 
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Butler1000 said:
At any time, the Palestinians can lay down arms, renounce Jihad, acknowledge the existence of Israel, and gain statehood. The world would be on their side then.

Nobody likes a terrorist state. Except other terrorist states.
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There you go again, thinking all Palestinians are Hamas. You think Palestinian babies are guilty of being Hamas because of where they were born and who their parents may or may not have voted for. Your words are so monstrous even your fellow Israel supporters here cannot support your calls for the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. I hope you're long gone way before Israel even achieves a fraction of your disgusting ethnic cleansing final solution wet dream of Palestinians.
 
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Leimonis said:
I trust their professionalism more than I trust Hamas numbers
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IDF claimed 20,000 Palestinians dead last week, when numbers from inside Gaza were around 10,000-11,000.
 
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versitile1 said:
There you go again, thinking all Palestinians are Hamas. You think Palestinian babies are guilty of being Hamas because of where they were born and who their parents may or may not have voted for. Your words are so monstrous even your fellow Israel supporters here cannot support your calls for the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. I hope you're long gone way before Israel even achieves a fraction of your disgusting ethnic cleansing final solution wet dream of Palestinians.
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The Palestinians will be the authors of their own demise. Did you see where Iran has now stated no help forthcoming?

How does that make you feel to know they don't care either?
 
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Butler1000 said:
The Palestinians will be the authors of their own demise. Did you see where Iran has now stated no help forthcoming?

How does that make you feel to know they don't care either?
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You can't even defend your own monstrous words calling for the ethnic cleansing and collective punishment of Palestinians for what Hamas did and for what you think Palestinians may or may not do. Nobody can defend your hate-filled rhetoric. You're just a broken record of hate. You think children should be bombed because they were born Palestinian in Gaza. I'm glad you will be long gone and most likely never see your wet dream final solution ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians in Gaza ever realized.
 
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versitile1 said:
Peace is what's needed. Not sympathy. You can't achieve peace through domination, subjugation, violence. Hamas needs to go, but bombing 15,000+ mostly women, kids and infants, and the elderly is hardly the way to go about it.

Anyone with half a brain can see that all it does is create more extremists. Do you think the average Palestinian loves having their whole family bombed and buried under the rubble of what used to be their home? Well of course you do, because you think every Muslim is just waiting to be martyred and had families just so they can be martyred.

Do you think that if Palestinians (not Hamas) were given some form of equality, don't ask me what that looks like, they would continue to attack Israel? Well you do, because you think all Muslims are extremist jihadi suicide bombers.

You keep bringing up these other wars, as if they have anything to do with the price of milk at Metro. ISIS was pretty much defeated in Syria, where they caused many of the deaths there. Still lots needs to be done. Does that mean we should turn a blind eye to the bombing of Palestinian civilians in Gaza?

Are there still Tamils in Sri Lanka? Do you agree with the Israeli politician that says Canada should take 200,000+ Palestinians?
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Not sure why you're arguing here.
Butler has made it clear that he feels the solution is ethnic cleansing and that war crimes are acceptable in pursuing this goal, if not outright preferred because it will reach the final solution faster.
 
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richaceg said:
I don't support ethnic cleansing...is ethnic cleansing happening? don'tthink so...
why bother evacuating civilians if they want to "cleanse"? why not shoot them? or it's just your wet dream?
www.jpost.com

IDF issues urgent evacuation order to Gaza City neighborhoods

Israeli Air Force struck about 200 Hamas targets in the past day • Israeli Navy strikes military camp used by Hamas's naval forces
www.jpost.com www.jpost.com
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Then why did they write this?
 
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silentkisser said:
This whole situation is a fucking mess. Israel needs to destroy Hamas.
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Why?

Hamas only does to Israelis what Israel does to them. Though Israel does it at 10x the scale.
Its a cycle of violence that will continue as long as the occupation lasts.
Even if you kill all of Hamas you'll just start a new generation of indigenous Palestinians intent on resistance to the occupation.

Just end the frigging occupation already.
 
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