Israel at war

Klatuu

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Ok, but no one is going to really accept that this is the way it works - or should work.

Let's play through the scenario. HAMAS blatantly breaches any international law or convention ever written. It raids a music festival and commits obscene and stomach turning outrages against helpless women and children and takes hostages like some band of Medieval barbarians. It also subjects Israel to a bombardment.

It then retreats to Gaza where it has deliberately and carefully prepared fortified positions under essential civilian humanitarian structures, thus ensuring that Israel too must - arguably - breach the Geneva Convention if the IDF attacks HAMAS and destroys its capacity to commit more war crimes.

HAMAS can then argue - like @DinkleMouse - that if Israel kills 5,000 Palestinian civilians to stop HAMAS attacking again and killing 4,999 or fewer Israeli civilians that Israel has failed "proportionality" and is the bigger war criminal.

The convention was clearly never written to be distorted in this way. NO country is going to accept that a terror group can raid, torture, rape, murder and kidnap its citizens simply by then fortifying a hospital as its stronghold. It's just too easy an exploit to set up - again and again and again and again.
 

toguy5252

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Buddy, just no.

You don't go over to someone's house and kill their kids because the guy there killed your kids 10 years ago. It doesn't get to work that way. Two wrongs don't make a right. Smarten up and act like a civilized human being!

FFS!!!!
you are asking, expecting way to much from him. Dead civilians on either side makes him hard.
 

Klatuu

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Buddy, just no.

You don't go over to someone's house and kill their kids because the guy there killed your kids 10 years ago. It doesn't get to work that way. Two wrongs don't make a right. Smarten up and act like a civilized human being!

FFS!!!!
And you don’t get to ignore 70 plus years of doing the same thing it to another people and then pretend one doesn’t follow from the other…FFS!!!

And you do realize that how absurd your “two wrongs don’t make a right” cliche sounds when one side just slaughtered 11,000 in response, including over 5000 children. I’m sure you’ll rationalize how it only applies to one side.
 
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We just got a big fish! Ahmad Andur, brigade commander of northern Gaza is no more!!
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This is the second most senior terrorist we’ve eliminated since the beginning of the war. And the cherry on top is that this creature was very close with the number one in Hamas, Yahya Sinwar (pictured below). I bet hes starting to feel the heat because he knows we know exactly where he is and we will get him when we’re ready. Let him live in fear.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Correct. That is exactly what Israel is doing. So they are wrong. It is a war crime and collective punishment
No that's not what Israel is doing.
They are going over to their house to stop Hamas from doing more killing in the future.
It's called self-defensive, proactive warfare
 
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Talk about a double standard…. I was literally banned from
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and
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for calling out the fact that their Islamic drivers attacked Jews. I was thrown out of a moving Uber in NYC on Rosh Hashanah in 2017 by a Muslim
@Uber
driver. When an Uber driver who was in ISIS killed 8 people in NYC, and I said I didn’t want to ride in Ubers with unvetted Islamic immigrant drivers who might be Islamic terrorists, I was banned and shamed by the mainstream media and Big Tech. Now, 6 years later, people are waking up to what I exposed first. Nobody ever tried to sympathize with me and my safety as a Jewish woman. I was instead demonized and banned from being able to use ride share apps.
 
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