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Israel at war

Frankfooter

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THAT'S why everyone except you, Frankie and Klaatu are rooting for Israel. Not because those board members "are Jews" or because "they need to be popular". It's because they're DISGUSTED by what HAMAS did and they think that Israel has a right to ensure that doesn't take place again.

No one is cheering for the Gazans to be killed or "collectively punished". You IMAGINE that people want that because that plays into your sad little fantasy of "white colonial oppression". The IDF is allowing the Gazans to flee the war zone and we're all glad about that.

So get out of your little "freedom fighter" fantasy world and start seeing what's actually at stake in the Middle East.
The politics forum here is a small group of a smaller group that swings more right then Canadians as a whole.
But even here the numbers aren't that big and you're now on the side of such lovers of equality and freedom as phil m, conil and canadaman.

I keep posting the polls but really its the crowds on the street that should show you how extreme and vile your views are to the vast majority of Canadians. Tomorrow there will be yet another protest, likely bigger than the last two and they were as big as anything this city has seen.

You keep blaming Hamas but ignore the blockade, the occupation, apartheid and the 250 Palestinians that were killed in terrorist attacks this year before Oct 7. Palestinians are the victims here, of a US backed, colonial settler movement that has some of the worst human rights abuses of any country around.

I have no clue why you'd back this shite. No clue why a lawyer would back a regime that has a long and well document history of breaking international law along with human rights abuses.

The UK had their biggest protest in their history. These aren't antisemites, these are people out to stop a fucking racist, supremacist genocide, the one you're cheering on.

 
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Leimonis

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It was only called "Mandatory Palestine" so yeah, may be it did not exist. On the other hand, guess what did not exist and had to be created and handed to foreigners via colonial paper partition? Yeah. Israel. lol.

Just admit, that both Israel and Palestine are legitimate today and work from there. Because if you want to go back a 100 years, Israel had absolutely no credible reason for being formed. Absolutely none.
so israel existed since 1947 and palestine has never existed. One seems more legitimate than another, no?
 

Frankfooter

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This is IDF video, you think the destruction they caused is fake?

How about these satellite photos?
 

Leimonis

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By other voices you mean right wingers, but even more right wing???
by pushing the ultra left agenda you only help to discredit the left which will help the right to get to power.
So since you are helping the right anyway you may as well listen to them, no?
 

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Let us not muddy the waters with Russia and Iran.

Hamas may not give a shit about the Palestinians, but why is the responsibility of "giving a shit about the Palestinians" solely lie with Hamas and not the entire world, when the entire world seems to give a shit about the Israelis? Is that not a racist double standard where the more empowered, richer and privileged people are the "poor victims" and the people getting brutalized for no fault of theirs are just brushed off as "the responsibility of the Hamas"?

Hamas is a terrorist group - they cannot and should not be held to the same standard as Israel. Terrorist groups are not going to care.

But here is an excerpt from International Law:

8. Any violation of these prohibitions shall not release the Parties to the conflict from their legal obligations with respect to the civilian population and civilians, including the obligation to take the precautionary measures provided for in Article 57 .

Any violation of IHL by any party in the conflict DOES NOT ABSOLVE THE OTHER PARTY (IN THIS CASE ISRAEL) FROM STILL BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR LEGAL OBLIGATIONS OF NOT COMMITTING WAR CRIMES.

Therefore, you can try to spin this and say Hamas started it. But since the war has started, the law applies EQUALLY to Hamas and Israel and Israel is still responsible for those deaths. They are committing war crimes (and so is Hamas).

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Because they dance in the streets when Hamas commits terrorism? Thats why the world doesn't give a shit. They have formented attempts to overthrow host govts. Used host lands to plan and execute terrorism, and then cry when they lose.

No one is coming to their rescue. You need to accept that.
 

Frankfooter

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by pushing the ultra left agenda you only help to discredit the left which will help the right to get to power.
So since you are helping the right anyway you may as well listen to them, no?
You can't say its ultra left when its backed by 77% of Canadians.
All that means is that you are now an extremist and didn't see it happen.

 
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Frankfooter

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Because they dance in the streets when Hamas commits terrorism? Thats why the world doesn't give a shit. They have formented attempts to overthrow host govts. Used host lands to plan and execute terrorism, and then cry when they lose.

No one is coming to their rescue. You need to accept that.
People are marching in the street to stop genocide.

Zionists?
 
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