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Butler1000

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Kautilya said:
I proved to you already, that they don't.
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Most Muslims live in Majority Muslim nations. They all pretty much have Sharia on the law books. They ban gay people, have various penalties for Apostates, polygamy, corporal punishment, adultery laws, and more. A nation only gets there with a Majority of muslims who want it.

This is the end game. This is the definition of "The Peace of Islam". And the Quran even says its ok to lie about it to infidels.

Its not they don't have the death penalty, its that they don't have it YET. Iran and Saudi Arabia are the pinnacles of what happens within the two major sects.
 
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Kautilya said:
Its possible. But my question is then, what if people still do not move because there is no where to move? They also give 2 hours , and it is mass panic, with children and the elderly - how are they supposed to move in 2 hours? What possessions will they take? Where are they supposed to go? I mean it is inherently evil to call someone and say - "In 2 hours we will destroy your house. Just move". It would still be a war crime, because am sure the value of 1 decommissioned bunker or tunnel, cannot be justified by 10s or 100s of Palestinian deaths.
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It is better than the 90 second Jewish folks have to get to a shelter when the sirens go off


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We Had 90 Seconds to Get the Children to the Bomb Shelter: A Psychologist in Jerusalem

My wife heard it first and asked me to lower the music to see if I hear something. It was rather clear; like I have heard in the past on the news in the U.S., the siren consisted of an escalating sound which then tapered off only to escalate once again in multiple cycles.
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Kautilya said:
Okay then build bomb shelters that can house 2.2M people, withstand JDAMs and Precision bombs and bunker busters, and provide the Palestinians with Iron Domes and sophisticated radars, and then just give them a 90 second warning. lol.
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If Hamas hadn't blown their budget on tunnels and weapons, they could have built shelters and iron domes for their people. Although if they didn't fire missiles, murder and kidnap innocent civilians they would not need tunnels or anti-missile firepower.
 
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Kautilya said:
That actually only proves Israel's intent to bomb civilian establishments that have no military value, ...
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Or to destroy the Hamas infrastructure in the buildings.

Again, it disproves any bullshit claims of genocide.

Yes, of course. Both sides are responsible. But I am saying assign blame where you need to. ...
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Yet you stated that you think the conflict is explicitly base don Israel oppressing Palestinians. Do the Arab mob attacks on indigenous Jews in the 1920s have some blame for Israel's defensive posture? Does the Arab/Palestinian rejection of Partition and decision to declare war have anything to do with the conflict continuing? Does the fact that terror attacks against Israel were occurring when Jordan controlled the West Bank play a role? Does Arafat and Abbas walking away from peace talks play a role?

Jordan ceded the West Bank to Israeli control in 1994 with the intent of it being the basis for a Palestinian state. Do you think it possible for that to happen when Palestinian leadership refuse to accept that as an end to the conflict?

But yes, there is a vicious cycle in it. Terrorist attacks on Israelis result in Israeli response which kills civilians which causes more terrorism ... That's why I think the way forward is pressure on both sides to negotiate a comprehensive peace deal.
 
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Kautilya said:
Okay then build bomb shelters that can house 2.2M people, withstand JDAMs and Precision bombs and bunker busters, and provide the Palestinians with Iron Domes and sophisticated radars, and then just give them a 90 second warning. lol.
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So instead of having Hamas/PIJ stop firing rockets indiscriminatingly, you want Israel to spend money to build shelters so fewer Israelis are killed? Sorry to break it to you but Israel has spent billions on Iron dome and safe rooms which are mandatory in Israeli construction. At the same time, Hamas has spent billions on their military infrastructure including putting rocket launchers in schools.
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As Squeezer said, Hamas wouldn't need an Iron Dome system if they weren't continually attacking Israel.
 
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Kautilya said:
Okay then build bomb shelters that can house 2.2M people, withstand JDAMs and Precision bombs and bunker busters, and provide the Palestinians with Iron Domes and sophisticated radars, and then just give them a 90 second warning. lol.
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Why didn't hamas thought of that?
 
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Watching I24 news live and the IDF is heavily bombarding Gaza city right now.
Supposedly they are attacking at night because they have far superior night-vision equipment than Hamas does.
It sounds like they are just picking them off one by one (y)
 
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Kautilya said:
So, basically because they have more money? So classism then? That isn't any better.
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So it's ok with you that they live as expat billionaires while the people that they're supposed serve die and suffer? Their continued aggression and oppression causes Gazans' collective misery.

What they do is a hell of a lot worse than classism. It's a modern version of "Let them eat bread."
 
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