Israel at war

[Frankfooter]

So you propose to allow a smaller dog to bleed israel indefinitely.
How the fuck is israel supposed to be okay with that?

How is the world supposed to be ok with genocide?

In Gaza doctors have to operate on children with no anaesthetic, using vinegar as disinfectant and sugar for dressing.
Children.

Israel bombed the courtyard of another two hospitals, the Al Shifa and al-Rantisi.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1722774646372614399

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1722774603804590491

 

[shack]

You are going in circles and your statement lacks thought or logic. You are also misstating my words.

We go in circles because you keep saying Hamas is responsible and terrorists and blah, blah, blah but you continue to justify Hamas' tactics. History, occupation, oppression over and over. That's why you say there is war. That argument has been debunked 100 times in this thread yet you and frank keep repeating it.

You blame Israel for the way they are going about things. How about Hamas' way? Why did they attack instead of negotiating a true peace and recognize Israel's right to exist. Hamas initiated the the war, so they are 100% responsible for the aftermath. If they didn't think this through and realized what would happen to their human shields is not Israel's fault.

Also this entire 'war', is not about Hamas, but about taking land from the Palestinians and ethnically cleansing them off the region. At the end of the war, watch how Israel completely reoccupies North Gaza and does not let the Palestinians back in. And watch how terrorism becomes even worse than before.

Actually the entire war is about Hamas' stated goal of making Palestine whole again, get all the land back and make it an Islamic state.

It is allll about Hamas.

I also ask, what you think led to the creation of Hamas?

Hatred and evil.

So yes, Israel is a racist, apartheid state....... It is called speaking the truth.

The 2,000,000 Israeli Arabs living in peace and prosperity would totally disagree with you.

How can you call Israel racist when 1/4 of the population is Arab?
How can you call Israel apartheird when the Israeli Arabs have equal rights to everybody else.

Do you realize how reality escapes you and you make some of the most ridiculous statements.

I consider this a war to achieve ethnic cleansing.

By Hamas of Israel and Jews.

The fact that you refuse to call for Hamas to immediately release the 230 hostages exposes your true feelings and the hypocrisy of so many of your claims.

Why can't you say those words?

 

[Frankfooter]

How can you call Israel racist when 1/4 of the population is Arab?
How can you call Israel apartheird when the Israeli Arabs have equal rights to everybody else.

More than 50% of the people who live under Israeli rule are Palestinians but due to apartheid, less then half are considered citizens.
You've already admitted that Israel, like Hamas, commits war crimes.
The only difference is race. You just hate Palestinians and want them dead so defend Israeli war crimes that you say deserve the death penalty from Palesitnians.

Its so ingrained in you that you can't even bring yourself to denounce killing children.

 

[shack]

I don't defend Hamas.

By condoning their tactics is equal to defending them.

Call for them to immediately release the 230 hostages. The kidnappings are war crimes which you CLAIM to oppose. Keep in mind Oct. 7 triggered the war and was the date the kidnappings happened. As such it was before any of the actions that Israel has taken since. And don't go back in time to justify what Hamas did, as you've already said that Oct. was a war crime so it would hypocritical to do so.

Call for Hamas to release all the hostages, otherwise you are defending Hamas and your statement above it's total BS.

 

[Darts]

The Irish who were or are still an oppressed people are somewhat sympathetic to the Palestinians whom they perceive as an oppressed people. The Irish do or did support a two state solution.

 

[squeezer]

CNN reporter embeds with IDF in Gaza. Here's what he saw

 

[squeezer]

Piers Morgan rips into a man caught tearing down posters of Israeli hostages

 

[Frankfooter]

By condoning their tactics is equal to defending them.

You defend genocide then.
You defend apartheid.
You defend targeting civilians or 'terrorism'.

 

[Frankfooter]

CNN reporter embeds with IDF in Gaza. Here's what he saw

Did he see this?
Is he now complicit too?

 

[squeezer]

Did he see this?
Is he now complicit too?

Geez, Hamas is awful. I'd hightail it south if Hamas was in charge here.

 

[shack]

If Israel is making the choice to attack Hamas despite civilians being in the way, then it is a war crime. As it is defined per international law. You can say "no" all day long. But it is a war crime.

And?

 

[mandrill]

The Irish who were or are still an oppressed people are somewhat sympathetic to the Palestinians whom they perceive as an oppressed people. The Irish do or did support a two state solution.

Err, you know that the Irish have been free for over 100 years, don't you?

 

[shack]

Defensive about what? I dont have a dog in this fight.

I have been saying the same thing about Israel since page 1. That it is racist and apartheid. Here I am giving an example of how the Jewish religion itself discriminates and is racist.

This entire conflict is one of racism, apartheid and sectarianism. Similarly, non Jewish support especially in the west, for this has everything to do with racism and Islamophobia. So those topics are going to come up again and again and again. It is what it is.

All of this is total BS.

You don't have a dog and are arguing for morality.

Taking innocent civilian hostages is immoral.

Hamas did that and could very easily undo that act. Yet you refuse to call for them to immediately release the hostages.

Continuing to not do so is supporting a pack of dogs.

 

[shack]

Heartbreaking...Kudos to Piers for doing such a great job during this conflict. He has been the most unbiased media member out there during this conflict.

Didn't watch your vid, but from what I've seen Piers has been good.

 

[Leimonis]

If you accept terrorists are smart enough to hide amongst civilians, then the only way to get rid of all of them is to kill 2.2M people. Would you be okay with that? 1.1M of them are kids. That is genocide.

Every Hamas member and every potential Hamas member need not be taken out. They can target leaders like Yahya Sinwar, Ismail Haniyeh, Moussa Marzuk, Mohammad Deif and Khaled Mashal. Point is anything other than carpet bombings.

Life is not a James Bond movie. They do that they have to do to protect their status quo which is life next to terrorists but with minimal terrorist attacks. Obviously it’s a shitty status quo but that’s all they have

 

[Darts]

Err, you know that the Irish have been free for over 100 years, don't you?

Ireland is bifurcated. Northern Ireland is still under British occupation.

 

[Frankfooter]

Geez, Hamas is awful. I'd hightail it south if Hamas was in charge here.

Except you'd have to attack your overlords to get outside the prison walls.
Then everyone would call you a terrorist.

 

[Frankfooter]

And?

That makes you and Hamas the same.

 

[Frankfooter]

Life is not a James Bond movie. They do that they have to do to protect their status quo which is life next to terrorists but with minimal terrorist attacks

Are you talking about Palestinians or Jews now?

 

[shack]

I'd like you to first answer my earlier question several pages ago and condemn Israeli, war crimes and acknowledge the indiscriminate bombings.

I'd like to hear you make the statement that Palestinian lives come first. Israeli military objectives come second.

I am yet to hear you express any sympathy or consideration for Palestinian civilians which I asked if you would several pages ago. Let us first hear you say those words.

Duck, dodge, deflect. I have called on you first, so the onus is on you to be the first to reply.

Have you said that what Hamas did on Oct. 7 was a war crime?
Have you said that you condemn war crimes.
If a country can reverse a war crime why shouldn't they? It would be the right thing to do morally for Hamas, correct?
Yet for some reason you are incapable of calling on Hamas to undo/correct their war crime. Why should I need to to do anything before you prove the sincerity of those claims. It should be automatic for you. A no-brainer. A slam dunk.

UNLESS YOUR CLAIMS ARE FRAUDELENT.