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Butler1000 said:
Laws of War?
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Yes. The Geneva Conventions are news to you I take it. You might want to crack a history book.

That implies it's civilized. And by extension normalizes it.
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Hmm. I think you just said Israel isn't civilized. Interesting take.

Both sides are choosing no quarter.
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You've just accused Israel of committing a war crime. No quarter is expressly forbidden by Geneva and Hague Conventions.

Good luck sorting it out in the rubble and the fog of war.
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Not my job. The ICC will take care of that. But given that you just said Israel was committing war crimes, I'm not sure saying the evidence will be hidden is the flex you think it is. It really sounds like you're saying you support known war crimes. That's a strange position if you're not just trolling.

I get you don't like that answer as well.
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I didn't ask a question. Answers follow questions but I didn't ask one. So this isn't an answer, it's a statement. But given that you're a troll talking out your ass, I couldn't care less about your statement.

It implies your professed profession is inherently uncivilized.
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Wtf are you even trying to say? My professed profession? I've said I work in aviation. You're saying aviation is uncivilized? And what is this "it" that implies that?

It is.
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This is the strangest sentence to just tack on he end of post, but given how much of your post was incoherent gibberish, I guess it's to be expected. Were you high when you wrote this or something?
 
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DinkleMouse said:
Yes. The Geneva Conventions are news to you I take it. You might want to crack a history book.



Hmm. I think you just said Israel isn't civilized. Interesting take.



You've just accused Israel of committing a war crime. No quarter is expressly forbidden by Geneva and Hague Conventions.



Not my job. The ICC will take care of that. But given that you just said Israel was committing war crimes, I'm not sure saying the evidence will be hidden is the flex it is. It really sounds like you're saying you support known war crimes. That's a strange flex if you're not just trolling.



I didn't ask a question. Answers follow questions but I didn't ask one. So this isn't an answer, it's a statement. But given that you're a troll talking out your ass, I couldn't care less about your statement.



Wtf are you even trying to say? My professed profession? I've said I work in aviation. You're saying aviation is uncivilized? And what is this "it" that implies that?


This is the strangest sentence to just tack on he end of post, but given how much of your post was incoherent gibberish, I guess it's to be expected. Were you high when you wrote this or something?
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I'm stating under the present circumstances you can define things all you like but the ICC isn't going to be a factor. The USA is going to support this, and so will NATO. Russia is too busy, China has its own internal problems, and most of the ME will pay lip service but really don't give a shit about Gaza.

Add in its religious war as much as its about land, with control of Jerusalem as the end game prize for all three religions and no quarter is going to be the de facto reality.

Believing anything else is naive.

That's the objective reality.
 
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Butler1000 said:
I'm stating under the present circumstances you can define things all you like but the ICC isn't going to be a factor. The USA is going to support this, and so will NATO. Russia is too busy, China has its own internal problems, and most of the ME will pay lip service but really don't give a shit about Gaza.

Add in its religious war as much as its about land, with control of Jerusalem as the end game prize for all three religions and no quarter is going to be the de facto reality.

Believing anything else is naive.

That's the objective reality.
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I get it, you're being very clear: you believe Israel is engaged in war crimes and you support their war crimes so much that you challenge any international group to do anything about it.

It's refreshingly honest for a member of the troll parade.

I will just clarify one thing in your post though: I'm not defining anything. The laws of war are. Rome Statute, Article 8:

2. For the purpose of this Statute, "war crimes" means:

(xii) Declaring that no quarter will be given;
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Pretty cut and dry.
 
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DinkleMouse said:
I get it, you're being very clear: you believe Israel is engaged in war crimes and you support their war crimes so much that you challenge any international group to do anything about it.

It's refreshingly honest for a member of the troll parade.

I will just clarify one thing in your post though: I'm not defining anything. The laws of war are. Rome Statute, Article 8:



Pretty cut and dry.
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I accept the reality that, just like in Iraq, In Ukraine, in Tibet, and in many other places the ICC is a paper tiger to the realities of the world. So I choose to pick a side that I think serves the best interests of Liberal Democracy in the world. That will be a better partner to Canada.

Because Hamas needs to die. And the cost is going to be high.
 
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toguy5252 said:
Ha? Have you been living on another planet for the last 50 years? Hamas has several thousand rockets, Hezbollah has something like 150,000 rockets, Syria Yemen, Iran etc.
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They are dumb fire homemade rockets. Israel may say its existence is at risk but their actions betray their words, being confident enough to have a rave 3 miles from Gaza and sending the majority of its military to the West Bank to annex more land is not the actions of a state that is at risk of being wiped out.

Syria is still fighting a civil war, Yemen just got out of a civil war, Iran has strong defense but weak offense.
 
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Leimonis said:
1. believing hamas math is ridiculous
2. nobody can fully avoid collateral damage while responding to a threat
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Palestinians in Gaza have a good track record at reporting deaths.
They've had so many years of practice and lots of human rights workers around, though Israel keeps killing them as well this time.

Israel is clearly targeting civilian infrastructure and civilians
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1718932248408236054

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1716732850597216551

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1719200269991313684
 
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shack said:
Which citizens of Israel do not have equal rights?
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The fact that you used 'citizens of Israel' is the dead giveaway that you know the answer, shack.
Israeli Arabs, Palestinians in the West Bank and Jerusalem and in Gaza.

None have full equal rights.
I'd link the reports but you'd never read them.

The supporters of Israel are old, you knew you had to settle or risk the 'demographic problem'.
You lost the youth, now BLM is tied to PLM and its a racism/rights issue.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717933183084163331

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1719029386869928111
 
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HungSowel said:
They are dumb fire homemade rockets. Israel may say its existence is at risk but their actions betray their words, being confident enough to have a rave 3 miles from Gaza and sending the majority of its military to the West Bank to annex more land is not the actions of a state that is at risk of being wiped out.

Syria is still fighting a civil war, Yemen just got out of a civil war, Iran has strong defense but weak offense.
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you are wrong. Many are sophisticatedIranian rockets and in any eventmost can reach all parts of Israel. Even dumb homemade rockets kill people.
 
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Kautilya said:
I am talking about your support for brutalizing innocent civilians. You gleefully endorse it. Because Canada!
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You are having trouble see the difference between objective sight and subjective opinion.

No one wants a war. But in this case its inevitable. Or it will keep festering and coming up again and again. Both sides don't want peace, and the world isn't going to enforce one at this point. Israel is going to do whatever it takes to destroy the tunnels and terror infrastructure. And probably lop off more land as a DMZ.

The civilians had a week to get out. And Hamas had that week to assist with evacuation. They didn't. They encouraged civilians to stay to be used as human shields. That's the war crime.
 
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